Men! Yuck!

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No. I would appreciate the dead rat. Give it to me instead and i will make it into something beautiful.

Honestly, Kitty? Yes, that is a very apt way of describing it. From experience, (and I have some doozies!) the best I can tell you is to give "space"boy his walking papers and don’t look back and keep trying. I know how bad it can hurt to be on the wrong side of a one-way relationship, but don’t let it get the best of you. All that you can do is to decide what you need from a relationship and refuse to settle for less. When you do find the one that fits (and you will, promise :)) it is all worth it.
And this time I hit the right button!

Then on the other side of the spectrum is the guy that is always being used. Like me. Things are rough all over. I love and give, and what do I get? Jack. I am out of energy, time, and money. I have quit.

Unless you or Welfy wanna get the hookup :slight_smile:

Turpentine, could you dress it up in a little holiday outfit and put a little mousey smile on its face and have it hold a sign that says “Die Bastard Scum!” Pretty please?

evilskippy, it’d be so much easier if I didn’t have to see him so often, he goes to my school, luckily he’s not in any of my classes this year. I still pass by him in the halls every day. My school is less than 600 people, there’s less than 160 in my class. I get to see him just about every day. I get to see him flirt with anything that walks. I’ll wait, what else can I do? But will I ever find someone that’s worth it? Does such a person exist? I’m starting to doubt it.

Kitty

Have no fear, Kitty. They do exist. You will find them. And you will have one hell of an adventure getting there. Don’t worry about this guy. The wounds are fresh now but in six months you will wonder what you ever saw in him.

Hey FairyPrincess…I’m not a guy (obviously), but if you’re feeling cynical, I’m right there with ya. I’m thisclose to swearing off boys. Oh wait!!! There aren’t any males out there who are interested in dating me anyway!! Trust me, I had a long-term relationship that ended in my boyfriend dating my best friend behind my back for a month before I found out. Cynical? Honey, I define it. I think there are a few good ones out there, just…not in the greater Atlanta area in my experience. And yes…boys do SUCK, and if the dead rat thing makes you feel better, then you have my full permission. Good luck with that, and don’t worry…eventually it stops hurting (no thanks to him, of course)

And I hope your ex is pleased with himself :mad: (poor girl!) :frowning:

skippy, talk to me in six months, I might, just maybe be over it… or I could still be bitter, ya never know.

((Just A Girl)) I love you, and thanks for the support.

Kitty

((FairyPrincessKitty))

Right back at ya Kitty. You know we girls gotta stick together…especially those of us who have gotten the rougher treatment from the male sex. Skippy does make a point though, it definantly takes time, but it will get easier and easier as the weeks go by. Pretty soon there will be days, even weeks where it barely crosses your mind. Hang in there :wink:

Don’t ask me. I’m still trying to figure out the same stuff you said, only about women.

Don’t you just love that ‘I really luv ya babe, but I need space’? I’m starting to catalogue the dents in my wall from where I hit my head each time something similar happens.

Maybe you’re like me, always going after opposites because they’re exciting. I kind of like the wild child, with the cool hair, wild clothing because I’m quiet and retiring and they drag me into interesting things. I don’t want Miss. Pretty and Nice, who won’t say s**t if she had a mouthful, is dainty, not exciting, plain, and probably will eventually turn into one of those somewhat homely American Mom’s with middle aged spread, fussing over kids, going to church, being conservative, never changing her hair style or willing to wear some of those exciting things from Frederic’s of Hollywood, and only having sex on certain days during the week.

I have friends who married those and when I visit, I get bored. No camping, no exciting trips, no discussions of new and radical ideas, middle of the road politics, registered voters, standard sex provided the kids don’t hear, no wonder and no fun. A BBQ, some beer, TV, and kids make up their lives.

Unfortunately, such wild girls I find are too wild, not exactly loyal, or find me boring or convenient to contact when they get in a jam, need help, a place to crash, sober up, come down or hide from some guy. (The sex is great, but I’d like a little more.)

My friends keep trying to set me up with these ‘nice’ girls. Plain, cute, conservative, intelligent, business oriented, not too much make-up, never would stripe their hair different colors, prefer reading mysteries, love stories and E-books, don’t wear sexy platform boots, just expensive sneakers, don’t burn incense, would never wear one of those sexy black girdle like things Madonna likes to wear, collect ‘collectibles’ while ignoring fascinating old things, never smoke pot, and are showing signs of not being able to fit in hot pants. Don’t smoke, have big feet, and lean towards conservative music.

I keep looking. So should you.

FPK

Men don’t suck in particular. For every woman out there who feels screwed over by a man there is a guy out there who feels screwed over by a woman. And what about women who get screwed over by other women, or men by other men? There is no “victim gender”, but there is a victim specis.

You, me, everyone is a victim to someone at some time and chances are that person was or will be a victim to someone else at some time and also chances are that you made or will make someone a victim at some time.

See it isn’t men that are pigs or women that are scum it’s the entire human race that is just one worthless pile of excrement at alternating intervals. Shit does not roll down hill, it sloshes all over the place and at one time or another it coats us all pretty equally.

Of course I’m a bit of an optimist, it could be worse than all of that.

Well, apparently nice guys can get a clue, if you beat them about the head with it. Who knew?

My new favorite nice guy read, and responded to, my post from yesterday. He emailed, he called, there’s been mention of making plans for New Year’s Eve, it’s a miracle!

Sorry for the happy hijack, but I figured that I ought to come clean and let you know. I will be making every effort to not feel smug for the rest of the day. So far I’m failing, but I’m OK with that. :slight_smile:

FPK, after considering my revenge tactics I told you last night, you can also consider this: Ignore him. I know it’s hard to do in such a small school; however, by letting this get to you it just feeds his assholedness (nice word.) I’m pretty sure the shit he’s doing is just to piss you off.

broccoli!

Kitty,

From what I have read from you on this board, you seem to be a very sweet, intellegent, interesting person. I am sure that you will have no trouble finding someone better than this guy. Now that I have given you the best warm, fuzzy advice I can, it is time to live up to my name. Until the healing does begin, I am never one to judsge poorly for a bit of revenge. This being a specialty of mine, let me give you some help. Forget the dead rat. Might creep him out, won’t make him feel bad, will make you look psycho. Not a good combination for future dating. Instead, if you want to hurt him, get him where it really hurts. (and I don’t mean the heart) A good start is the old standby of a rumour campaign suggesting a deficency in either penile sizing and/or sexual technique. Either of which is damaging to him, but have several advantafes. They don’t reflect poorly on you and they are subjective enough that if you are called on them you can respond with:

“Maybe it wasn’t bad/tiny by YOUR standards, but some of us demand BETTER.”
While adding a tone of pity either for him if he confronts you or for another person’s low standards if, for instance, another girlfriend of his confronts you.

Foremost, no matter how bad it hurts make every possible effort to look amazingly happy whenever he can see you. Nothing makes a guy feel worse than thinking that the girl you left is happier without you.(doesn’t even have to be true.)

You’re all evil, EVIL people… and I love you for it. I was so looking forward to the stuffed dead holiday rat I guess you’re right skippy, I don’t want to look overly psychotic. I guess I’ll follow your advice and go for ignoring him and being happy, despite how I may really feel about it. I’ve realized he’s more of a scumbag than I thought… amazing isn’t it? After this saturday I’ll be fine, I just have to get past the christmas party and then I won’t see him until the week after the new year when we go back to school. I can make it that long… right?
Slackergirl, congrats, I’m really happy for you, at least one of us can be happy and non bitter about guys. I wish you the best of luck.

Kitty

LOL - I told you FPK!

broc

Can we please move on from the ‘all men are bastards’ routine? It’s wearing a bit thin, and it says so much more about the woman saying it than it does about men.

I’m a straight guy, and I have never cheated, screwed around or treated a woman badly. Or wanted to. My life does not revolve around beer and ‘the game’, and I’ve had several wonderful relationships with some truly outstanding women, that have involved a great deal of love and happiness given, received, shared and enjoyed.

Am I some kind of saint or a freak? No. Definitely a big NO. There are many, many guys just like me, and probably even better. ‘Seek and ye shall find’.

‘Good’ and ‘bad’ are not gender-specific traits. There are some nasty ladies out there, but I know they are a small minority comapred to the many fantastic, delightful women worth getting to know, to make friends with, and maybe even to love. Same is true in reverse. Some men are scum, yep, but you’re a big girl now and that means you get to make choices and enjoy the consequences. If you want to have fun with a nice guy in a good, fulfilling relationship, then ‘Men Yuck’ is hardly a great starting attitude. Be worthy of yourself and your opinions. And find the love you deserve, and the happiness to which you are entitled, with a man who knows how to treat you right.

Humanity is flawed, we are built by unskilled labor using inelegant plans and often with low cost materials. So, it stands to reason that some of us are rather lacking in areas that others aren’t. Some of us are a-holes, no getting around that, in fact all of us are in some manner or another. The trick is finding out which persons a-holeness best relates to those aspects of yourself are a-holy. When you search for the ‘perfect’ person, you just set your filter to select nada, instead of ‘able to accept.’ Also, don’t expect love to come instantly, it can take a while after you and them have met. Love at first sight is a fairy tail, it is lust at first sight. (But I will admit that love can come after lust, but again, that takes time)

Just a few observations while I am somewhat out of the desperate phase of my loneliness.

Loneliness builds character.

Then my character should be the size of the Great Pyramid.

Hey, SG - good luck!

Unfortunatly, for those of us who are nice, honest, and respectable, there are guys like this one that screw it up for everybody.