Miscarriage - Trying again and timing (May be sensitive for some)

I know that there are other folks out there who’ve recently (or not so recently) experienced the loss of miscarriage. I’m interested in hearing from you regarding the following questions. I’m doing this mostly so that I don’t feel utterly alone in my (our) sorrow, because as most of you know, I live in France and am not able to really seek the group support that would probably do me good.

I’m not wallowing in my sorrow (not today anyway :wink: ) but it’d be nice to know I’m not alone.

In advance of those who say there is probably a more appropriate message board for this sort of post, I say:

I know that there are. I’m just a bit off-put by the dancing angels, references to our children being with God, etc. Not that I’d mind if you mention it here in this thread, but I find it difficult to find folks on those “Pregnancy Loss” MB with whom I can relate. Not that there is thing one wrong with angels and using religion to help you heal, it’s just not my way of doing things.

So, if you would be so kind. Please omit any questions/answers that you find particularly painful or inappropriate.

I apologize in advance if these questions sound too personal or insensitive. We had our loss while on holidays in the States and I wasn’t able to have adequate time to talk with the doctors, nurses or other parents who’ve experienced a loss.

  1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?

  2. How far along were you?

  3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

  1. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again?

  1. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?

This was my first miscarriage. I already have a daughter who was 26 months at the time.

2. How far along were you?

Twelve weeks.

3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

Yes, I went for a routine ultrasound. It was only after they did the internal and didn’t turn on the speakers that it dawned on me that something may have been wrong. I had a D&C in the hospital under general anesthesia. (Incidentally, this whole thing cost us $5,800 because we have no US health insurance.)

3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

I noticed that my morning sickness (which started in the afternoon) went away, but I thought it was just the normal reduction that occurs after the first trimester.

4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

We’d like to start trying again, possibly in the new year. I’ll be 34 and we don’t want to wait too long.

4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again?

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5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

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I think it would be helpful if I could talk to women who’ve experienced pregnancy loss in English. My French isn’t good enough to discuss this comfortably.

Anahita, would you e-mail me? Yours is private.

  1. Just one, I had no children at the time.

  2. 10 weeks

  3. I had a ‘missed’ too, and also had a D&C, but I was awake.

3a. I had no idea, but I hadn’t been pregnant before either.

  1. I’ve had two children since, DD is 5 and DS is 2.

4a. I was pregnant about a year later, very soon after we started trying.

  1. I was pretty worried for the whole thing the first time. I ate a lot for comfort… I had just moved to a new, very different area and had no one to talk to. I couldn’t talk to my family either, because I never told them.

LunaSea, I emailed you. Thank you for responding.

I’ve changed my profile so that my email is available, if anyone is interested.

**1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage? **
three miscarrages and I already had two kids.

**2. How far along were you? ** seven months, six months, and just a few weeks

**3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery? ** I was under a doctors care when the first two happened, with the third I found out I was having a miscarrage at my first apppointment. The first two, I delivered.

**3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable? ** this only applies to the third one. I took a home test, it came out positive, I had light spotting and the doctor told me it was not unusual and to come in for my schedualed appointment. When I got there they did another pregnancy test that came out negative then they sent me for blood tests that confirmed I was pregnant but having a miscarrage. Otherwise I wouldn’t have known right away.

**4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term? ** We will not be trying again, we are extremly careful about not getting pregnant.

**4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again? **
After the first one, we tried as soon as the doctor said it was OK, we were pregnant withing two months. After we lost the second baby, we didn’t try again, it was unplanned, that was about a year later.

5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful? I was very worried, I tried to do everything I could to have a healthy child, it wasn’t in the cards. I comforted myself by saying that my loses were unusual.

dragongirl, not too much I can say but you must be a very strong person.

1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage? I had my second miscarriage on July 7th of this year. My first was 8 years ago. These were my only two pregnancies.

2. How far along were you? For the first, I was only about 2 weeks. It was unplanned and I had just taken a pregnancy test a few days before. I woke up in the night, cramping and bleeding and got myself to the hospital. For the 2nd, this year, I was about 2 ½ months.

3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery? For the first, see above. For the second, I started spotting and called my doctor. She said that it was probably nothing and not to worry about it. I had an appointment scheduled for the following week, so I took a day off work and laid around. I started to feel better, but continued to spot. A few days later, I again woke up in the night cramping and bleeding. My husband took me to the emergency room and they loaded me up with Demerol and we all waited. I didn’t have to have a d&c.

** If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?** n/a

What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term? My doctor told me to wait for three months. We’re about a week away from that right now!!! We’re going to jump right back into it.

**4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again? ** See above…I hope very soon!

5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful? I’m already a bit worried. My husband and I have talked a lot about it happening again, though, and we have decided not to tell anyone, including family, until I’m showing. We’re preparing ourselves, but I also don’t want to not get my hopes up…that’s the joyous thing about having a baby. It’s going to be a tough balancing act.

One thing that’s been especially hard for us is the fact that two of my close friends and my sister-in-law have all delivered healthy babies in the past month. We’re thrilled for them, but baby showers and visits to the maternity ward have been really hard. Social situations with the babies are tough, too, because I feel like everyone’s looking at me to gauge my reaction to being handed a newborn.

C3 said

“I’m already a bit worried. My husband and I have talked a lot about it happening again, though, and we have decided not to tell anyone, including family, until I’m showing. We’re preparing ourselves, but I also don’t want to not get my hopes up…that’s the joyous thing about having a baby. It’s going to be a tough balancing act.”

That’s kind of where we are with the whole thing, too. I really want to be able to be excited about it, but the disappointment would be hard to go through again. Same thing with the telling people. I think we also will not tell people until well into the 2nd trimester, and even then, only family and close friends.

C3 said

“I’m already a bit worried. My husband and I have talked a lot about it happening again, though, and we have decided not to tell anyone, including family, until I’m showing. We’re preparing ourselves, but I also don’t want to not get my hopes up…that’s the joyous thing about having a baby. It’s going to be a tough balancing act.”

That’s kind of where we are with the whole thing, too. I really want to be able to be excited about it, but the disappointment would be hard to go through again. Same thing with the telling people. I think we also will not tell people until well into the 2nd trimester, and even then, only family and close friends.

**1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage? **

I already had one three year old when I had my miscarriage.

**2. How far along were you? **

I was a couple of months along.

**3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery? **

Since I knew I was pregnant–indeed, had been trying to get pregnant–I kind of freaked when I noticed the spotting. My first pregnancy was text book perfect and I (foolishly) assumed any subsequent pregnancies would be exactly the same. I went to the emergency room and they sent me home. My doctor called to explain that the spotting would increase, I would “pass a small mass” (I’m gonna walk by a Catholic church during vespers?) then it would be over.

That would have been all well and good if that’s actually the way it had gone. What happened was I started to have contractions that intensified in pain for many hours. I passed several large masses of stuff and finally passed out from blood loss as I was trying to shower to go to the hospital (I know, I know, not the smartest thing I’d ever done, but I looked like the last scene in Carrie–all I could think was “I can’t go to the ER looking like this!” :slight_smile: )

I woke up in the ambulance and the pain was finally over (after about 10 hours of it), and I was then confronted with the most arrogant intern I’d ever met. He wanted to “clean me out” without benefit of pain meds–he seemed to think I was overreacting. I informed him that if he touched me again I would “kick him in the f***ing head,” then pulled my foot out of the stirrup to show him that I meant business. Pain meds appeared magically before me!

Needless to say, this was a rather traumatic experience for me for many reasons–the physical pain, the pain of losing my baby, not to mention the pain of dealing with an insensitive doctor. It took longer to heal emotionally than it did for me to bounce back physically, but I did and I went on to get pregnant again and have a beautiful baby boy.

3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

Everything was fine until I noticed the spotting–prior to that, there was no indication that anything was wrong.

4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

I did try again–Georgie will be six in February :slight_smile:

**4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again? **

We were told to wait six weeks and we did. I got pregnant shortly after that.

5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

I was a wreck all through my pregnancy with Georgie. If anything felt “funny” or “off”, I would wonder if that was a sign that it was going to happen again. None of my friends had been through this so I just didn’t feel I could talk to them about it. What was helpful was finding new doctors who were supportive and sympathetic and didn’t treat me like a hysteric anytime I called with questions or concerns.

I’m 34 now and my partner and I are going to try to get pregnant in about a year. I’m not sure what’ll happen, but I’ve had plenty of time to get over what happened and not feel frightened at the prospect–in fact, I feel hopeful (well, right now I do, anyway :slight_smile: )

I am answering as the male part of a married couple:

1a. How many miscarriages have you had? **
Two
1b. Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?
No
2. How far along were you?
Around 22 weeks
3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?
Yes, on both occasions it was necessary to deliver the baby
‘naturally’
*
3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?
It all happened very suddenly; there were no warning signs
4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?
The problem was diagnosed as ‘incompetent cervix’ (adding insult to injury) - the correction procedure involves sewing the cervix shut during the early stages of pregnancy (Shirodkar suture)
4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again? Within about six months of diagnosis; we have two healthy children now (carried to full term) as a result of the procedure.
*5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful? Very stressful, more so the second time. The hospital was kind enough to organise proper (but very small and informal) ‘funerals’, which were helpful to us; the support and concern of our close friends and church community was a huge help. Somewhat surprisingly, seeing our friends successfully produce children actually helped give us hope.

[sub]*At 22 weeks, technically it is called a ‘foetus’, but I experience an odd compulsion to punch people when they remind me of my improper use of the term ‘baby’ in relating our tale.
**However, what was delivered was, to all meaningful intents, a small human child, with an external appearance of being almost fully formed.
***Technically and Legally, the hospital is not under any obligation to treat the ‘non-viable foetus’ as human or deserving of any particular respect, but I think (among other generally caring motives), they see the expense of the whole 'funeral thing as offsetting or forestalling possible future psychiatric tratment and counselling.[/sub]

(((((Everybody)))))

It’s very comforting to know there are other people out there who’ve had this experience and went on to have healthy kids.

Yes, it really is. That is something that’s really helped me in the past few months. After telling people that we had a miscarriage, it seemed like almost everyone had been through the same thing. Two men in my office have wives that both miscarried in their 6th month. Both went on to have children, one had three and one had four!
My grandmother told me that she had had several miscarriages before she had my dad and my aunt and two of my cousins (one who just gave birth and one who has a beautiful 1 1/2 year old) had miscarriages early in previous pregnancies. I hadn’t known any of this before, but I’m glad they shared with me when we were going through the same thing. It has definitely given us hope.

**1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage? **

Just the one (so far–who knows?). No, it was the first one.*

**2. How far along were you? **

14 weeks–but we found out what would happen at 12.

3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

At an early ultrasound at 12 weeks, the doctor noticed problems and sent us to a perinatologist, where we learned that the baby was dying. Soon afterwards, the baby did die, and I failed to miscarry, so I had a D&E. Full anesthesia and everything.

3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

At the time, I wasn’t sure, but now I know the difference. I completely lost my pregnancy appetite. I was no longer hungry (and got even pickier from grief).

4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

Our problem was a random and rare chromosomal defect, where the baby was missing the second sex chromosome (XO instead of XX or XY). Very few babies with this condition make it to term, but it is not likely to happen again, so our chances are considered as good as anyones’. We tried for 8 months or so before I conceived again (–perhaps my body wasn’t ready to do it again yet, maybe I was too stressed. All I know is we went on vacation, I completely relaxed, we didn’t try, and I wound up pregnant. Weird.) I carried that baby to term, very healthy pregnancy. Am now 11 weeks pregnant again, feeling uncertain but mostly fine.

**4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again? **

Right away (but was secretly relieved when it didn’t happen the first couple of months). 8 months to become pregnant again–see above.

5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

I was a mess, esp. in the first trimester. I was terrified. In my case, an amniocentesis solved a lot of the problem, because I could see that the chromosomes were fine. I decided to have the amnio on the theory that all the worry I was putting myself through was probably worse for the baby than an amnio would be, and my doctor had never had a patient lose a pregnancy through having the test. By the fifth month or so, I was a lot better, but never felt like I would be happy until the baby was safely out of there, where I could see her. This time, I feel much calmer, but I’m still worried, still looking forward to an early sonogram on Monday. Wish me luck.

*So many people I know have lost the first pregnancy that a friend of mine theorizes that it’s often a ‘trial run’ for the body.

It is kind of comforting to know that it can be done, that other women have gone through it. I was shocked to see, when I lost the first one, how many people had lost a baby too. It was like they came out of the woodwork, and suddenly I belonged to this secret club. I didn’t even tell a lot of people.

  1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?

2 m/c. The first, I had a 2 year old. The second time, I had a 4 year old and an almost 2 year old.

  1. How far along were you?

The first time, maybe 5 weeks. The second, about 10 or 11 weeks.

  1. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

First time, no, because I tested + and then got my period about 2 days later. We had been trying to conceive a second child for almost a year at that time and this was the first time I got pregnant. I called the OB and she said only to come in if the bleeding was severe since I was so early.

The second time, which was a couple days before Christmas last year, I started spotting very lightly, so I called the OB. They said if it didn’t stop within a few hours or got heavier to come in. After dinner, it got worse, so I went to the ER. My cervix was closed but there was a lot of blood and clots so they assumed I had lost a twin.
Ultrasound that evening showed a baby a bt smaller than expected at that stage, but the heart rate was good and everything seemed fine.The doctor told me that “when we see the heartbeat, the chance of losing the baby is under 5%”.

The next morning, I woke up and had lost the baby. I went to the OB and an ultrasound verified that it was gone. My OB gave me the choice between having a D&C immediately or waiting a week to see if I could pass everything on my own. I did not want to have a D&C and I had already passed quite a bit of the tissue, so I opted to wait. I went in a week later for a follow-up ultrasound and everything had passed.
3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

With my second miscarriage, it felt different from the start of that pregnancy than either of my viable ones did. I had bad morning sickness with my son, and was woozy with my daughter, but had no symptoms other than weight gain with the m/c pregnancy. Once I started spotting, I knew deep down that it was probably over - call it intuition or whatever you like, but it was a knowledge that this one wouldn’t make it.

  1. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

I got pregnant on the next cycle after my first miscarriage and my daughter was conceived. She is now 2.5 and a healthy, smart little thing.

I don’t think we will have any more children now. Not that the miscarriage upset so much, just that for us now, 2 kids are enough.

4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again?

See above - got pregnant on the next cycle after the first one. I know several people who have done that, though it’s not the advised course of action.

  1. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss)
    pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

I was stressed until about week 12 with my second pregnancy (after miscarriage #1) when I felt I had passed the hurdle of risk. I had some bad cramping at about 6-7 weeks along and I was terrified to go to the bathroom since I was sure I would find blood. I surrounded myself with helpful and supportive people which did a lot to reduce my anxiety.

One more – it is normal to grieve. A friend of mine who has had a number of miscarriages and finally had a little one of her own (yay!) warned me that there are two hard times - once when you lose the baby, and another when the baby would have been born. This spring and summer, I found myself thinking a number of times “I’d be HUGE now” or “I’d be nursing a newborn about now”. Talk through those feelings if it helps.

And please accept my sympathies on your loss. Feel free to email me anytime.

  1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?

2 m/c. The first, I had a 2 year old. The second time, I had a 4 year old and an almost 2 year old.

  1. How far along were you?

The first time, maybe 5 weeks. The second, about 10 or 11 weeks.

  1. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

First time, no, because I tested + and then got my period about 2 days later. We had been trying to conceive a second child for almost a year at that time and this was the first time I got pregnant. I called the OB and she said only to come in if the bleeding was severe since I was so early.

The second time, which was a couple days before Christmas last year, I started spotting very lightly, so I called the OB. They said if it didn’t stop within a few hours or got heavier to come in. After dinner, it got worse, so I went to the ER. My cervix was closed but there was a lot of blood and clots so they assumed I had lost a twin.
Ultrasound that evening showed a baby a bt smaller than expected at that stage, but the heart rate was good and everything seemed fine.The doctor told me that “when we see the heartbeat, the chance of losing the baby is under 5%”.

The next morning, I woke up and had lost the baby. I went to the OB and an ultrasound verified that it was gone. My OB gave me the choice between having a D&C immediately or waiting a week to see if I could pass everything on my own. I did not want to have a D&C and I had already passed quite a bit of the tissue, so I opted to wait. I went in a week later for a follow-up ultrasound and everything had passed.
3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

With my second miscarriage, it felt different from the start of that pregnancy than either of my viable ones did. I had bad morning sickness with my son, and was woozy with my daughter, but had no symptoms other than weight gain with the m/c pregnancy. Once I started spotting, I knew deep down that it was probably over - call it intuition or whatever you like, but it was a knowledge that this one wouldn’t make it.

  1. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

I got pregnant on the next cycle after my first miscarriage and my daughter was conceived. She is now 2.5 and a healthy, smart little thing.

I don’t think we will have any more children now. Not that the miscarriage upset so much, just that for us now, 2 kids are enough.

4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again?

See above - got pregnant on the next cycle after the first one. I know several people who have done that, though it’s not the advised course of action.

  1. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss)
    pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

I was stressed until about week 12 with my second pregnancy (after miscarriage #1) when I felt I had passed the hurdle of risk. I had some bad cramping at about 6-7 weeks along and I was terrified to go to the bathroom since I was sure I would find blood. I surrounded myself with helpful and supportive people which did a lot to reduce my anxiety.

One more – it is normal to grieve. A friend of mine who has had a number of miscarriages and finally had a little one of her own (yay!) warned me that there are two hard times - once when you lose the baby, and another when the baby would have been born. This spring and summer, I found myself thinking a number of times “I’d be HUGE now” or “I’d be nursing a newborn about now”. Talk through those feelings if it helps.

And please accept my sympathies on your loss. Feel free to email me anytime.

By the way, just MO, but I think this is a fine topic for the boards; I too couldn’t stand the sticky-sweet pregancy loss pages. (And I’m quite a devout religious type.) It’s nice to be able to have a good discussion about it, I think–many women don’t get the chance to talk about it enough.

1. How many miscarriages have you had? Did you already have children when you experienced the miscarriage?

Two, possibly three. I already had one child (m/c when he was two years old, again 6 months later, and again just after that). IMHO, it is much easier to process the hope side of things if you have already had a child, but no easier to process the loss.

2. How far along were you?

First, 5.5 weeks. Second 7.5 weeks. Third, suspected implantation failure and got my period a week early.

3. Did you seek medical treatment? If so, did you have any surgery?

First one, no. I am not an angel-y kind of person, but I had met the soul of that child, and had been TOLD (in no uncertain terms) that whatever happened was supposed to happen, and all would work out. I didn’t need faith (who needs faith when you’ve got your very own burning bush?), and I felt I didn’t need medical care, either - it was very early, and I knew the soul would be back when the time was right.

Second, was under midwife care already. No soul-meeting, or anything to help out with that side of the experience. I started bleeding at noon, a pink smear, but it didn’t stop and I went straight to the birth center. They sent me for an ultrasound, which confirmed that gestation had stopped around 5 weeks. Nothing to do but wait it out. In two days, I fully miscarried, felt the placenta pass. With no spiritual contacts (not with me, anyway), the loss was more profound. Went in for a followup ultrasound, and had completely cleared, so no D&C.

Third, again, not late enough to feel that it was worth bothering about, medically. Again, no spiritual support. None for the successful pregnancy that followed, either.

3a. If you had a ‘missed miscarriage’, did you feel anything out of the ordinary that would indicate the baby was no longer viable?

N/A BUT - With the first, I did suddenly stop feeling pregnant, stopped feeling that sense of ‘presence’ over my shoulder and my symptoms started coming and going.

With the second, symptoms also came and went, but the real smack in the forehead was when my 2.5 year old son asked me if I was ‘sad because the round thing with the eggs in it is gone’ - that was the first day I started bleeding, when he didn’t know I was pregnant, and certainly wouldn’t have used a description of the stage of gestation rather than the term ‘baby’… his response was my ‘feeling’ on that one, though it was reassuring because part of my sense of loss was losing his sibling, not just my child - it helped that he already knew, though it was still agonizing.

Third time, all I had was symptoms that came on strong (dizzy spells, etc. - not the usual progesterone surge ‘false preg’ symptoms I usually get post ovulation), then failed right after implantation spotting, and got my period immediately, about 7 DPO, a week early.

4. What are your prospects for trying again? Or, if you did try again (and again, and again), were you able to carry a baby to term?

Tried again after waiting a short while, successful pregnancy.

4a. How long after your miscarriage did you begin trying again? How long was it before you were pregnant again?

I was told to wait one cycle, because the m/c was early. That followup try was the implantation failure. Waited a few more months (details follow). Once we tried again, I had one anovulatory cycle, and got pregnant on the second (first ovulatory) cycle, and carried to term. However, I do have really high fertility in general, so take that instant pregnancy with the appropriate history.

To add to the odd/spiritual stuff (sorry, but it is part of my experience), shortly after the implantation failure, all on the same day, a whole bunch of different people contacted me from all over the place, and each told me that they had a strong feeling that I needed to wait before trying again. Each used different terms, but all of them were desperate for me to wait until after the new year (one said X weeks, one said X cycles, one said next year, one said after the new year, one said after the holidays. Some were phone calls, some emails (including from overseas), some in person, none of them were in communication with the others, and all the same message.

I could see a few of them saying it, but all at once on the same freakin day was a bit much. And some of them were so upset about it that they acted out of character. One said she felt the need to call me all of a sudden, like an intense pressure, and nearly cried when I basically told her to butt out - she told me that she had a horrible feeling that something terrible would happen if I didn’t wait… it only took about 5 people saying the same thing before I decided that a few months wouldn’t kill me. So I brought it up with epeepunk, and he sighed with relief - he’d been feeling the same thing.

5. If applicable, please explain how your subsequent (after the loss) pregnancy was stress-wise. Did you find yourself very worried? If so, what did you find was helpful?

MASSIVE stress. At least at first. I worried and knawed at the possibility of another loss a lot. I posted a lot on a Losses forum (StorkNet, whose members were not too heavy on the angels thing at the time, BTW). I had no sense of contact, no spiritual reassurance, no feeling that this was right, it would work out okay, etc. My son didn’t say anything, either. I was floating without any reason for faith, like hanging over a ledge.

It was like holding my breath for weeks on end. Every cramp made me break a sweat, though I did feel better that I was clearly ‘growing’ - my tummy started to pop out very quickly (‘second’ baby does that), and I could feel my uterus enlarging. Still, I noted in my pregnancy log on week 6 that I was watching for bleeding. Every time I went to the bathroom, I’d hold my breath and check to see if there was any blood on the tissue. And you know how often pregnant women pee! It was like a compulsion to check (Post-traumatic stress reaction). On week 7, I noted that my stress level was skyrocketing as I approached “M-day”… 7.5 weeks.

I used hypnosis tapes nightly (ones designed for early pregnancy), and they helped a lot. But it was still very stressful. Then somewhere just less than 12 weeks along, I leaned forward on the sofa, and felt movement. Like a small goldfish flipping around in one spot. From then on, I felt regular movement, and that was my lifeline until I got used to the idea that ‘this one is healthy’ - by about 6 months, I seldom thought about it at all anymore, and by 7 months I kept forgetting that I’d miscarried. I did notice the original due date go by, and I had to mark the date of the loss, too. But that was it, and the last two months were all about being pregnant (rather than being about trying not to lose another one).

One of the things that really helped was writing about it. Okay, I’m a compulsive writer, but writing and sharing it helped. I wrote online, and also contacted an author who was writing about spiritual experiences around childbearing (contact me if you want info, the book is published, and I’ll tell you which chapter is me, if you want)… And I wrote one poem.

Taking a chance here and adding the poem I wrote, perhaps it will help someone else. Note that I assigned a gender to the child, because I’d only had one dream of the baby, in which she was a girl.

*Sunbeam Daughter


She’s gone.

They weren’t sure if she had all washed away… with all that blood, how could anything be left?

Nothing there. I felt the firm curl of placenta leave my body. She’s gone. No one told me miscarriage felt so much like giving birth.

I waited as I was expected to, being strong, ‘taking good care of me.’ Calmly chatting with the nurse drawing blood; checking yet again to see if the last hormonal echoes of that tiny child had stilled to nothing.

Bleeding again, finally, both science and my body reinforcing the truth I already know. I’m empty and emptying, sweeping out. Cleaning an empty house after the mourners have left, the body long in the ground.

Not even a remnant, not even a measurable quantity of her is left inside my veins. Thirty-eight days ago, I was almost two months pregnant. Now, I am just fertile ground to try again. Surely, I should be glad of that.

I draw breath to sigh, looking out a window in my heart. Pausing, I rest against my broom, watching motes of dust twirl lazily in the brilliant sunlight streaming in. Looking out, I can’t tell if I’m looking back, or forward. Am I searching for what was-and-could-have-been (but is not)? Or looking for what-has-not-yet-arrived (and might not) … or might still.

I pick up the broom again, sweeping once more. Moving on. Moving on without the daughter that could have been.

Now and then through golden sunbeams a half-glimpsed child’s figure passes, merrily running. I hear an echo of laughter in the dancing light.

‘Maybe next time,’ everyone says, sadly, hopefully. ‘Maybe next time… Close the curtains on the past. Close that window, and move on.’

I smile a private smile, sorrowful, but sure. I think I’ll keep that window open. She would have loved the sunlight. *

Take care, and do feel free to contact me if you like. (I’m Tranq’s sister, BTW)

I don’t know if this will discourage or give hope - I hope the latter.

I know someone (old friend of my mothers) who had six misscarriages, all in the third trimester, before giving birth to her one and only, beautiful son. The stress she must have endured must have been terrible, but she didn’t give up, and is now one of the best mothers I’ve met! Her son is healthy and smart, and there are no signs whatsoever of the possibility of having had problems in the womb. I, for one, consider it encouraging, although very very sad at the same time.