Miss Kaitlyn's first day in the classroom.

The parent meeting. It was pretty dull, actually. Keep in mind that I’m paraphrasing as best I can remember the longer passages.

I wore a conservative business-type suit–medium gray flat front skirt, black hose, black pumps with a 2-inch heel (brought them with me to school and changed out of my flats just before the meeting–I love how I look in heels, but they are a bit impractical for teaching primary grades or for that matter anything that requires you to be on your feet for six hours), , sleeveless black silk pullover bouse, jacket to match my skirt. I had my hair pulled back into a flat gather at the base of the neck, and a couple of pieces of accent jewelry–gold chain, matching bracelet and watch, pearl earrings. My make up was more mature than yesterday.

I looked about 10 years older than I did yesterday.

I introduced myself, briefly went over my credentials, and explained my condition briefly and directly, pretty much the way I did with the teachers, but in a bit more detail and without the shaggy dog story.

Then it was Mr. P’s turn. He went over the same stuff as with the teachers yesterday, but this time without channeling Robert Deniro as he did it (you need to picture Deniro as Al Capone in The Untouchables delivering the speeches from the teachers’ meeting to get the full effect.

The gist of the message was that I would be treated the same as any other teacher in accordance with district policy. If, for any reason, parents want to move their children, that would be accommodated, just as it would be with any of the other teachers–tell us you want your child moved into or out of a particular classroom, and if that can reasonably be done, it will be.

If parents had a protest to lodge with the school over something I did, it would be treated in exactly the same manner as any other protest; contact the principal and we would have a meeting with a senior staff member, the teacher, and the parent.

He went on like this–going over each of the basic procedures for dealing with a teacher who for some reason was seen as a problem, and how the procedures for dealing with such problems would still be handled in exactly the same manner.

In short, he spent 30 minutes going every possible objection that parents might use as an excuse to object to my being there, and systematically picking them apart.

He went over the rules:

Mr. P: Don’t ask any question you wouldn’t be prepared to answer about yourself under the same circumstances. Don’t ask any questions regarding the specifics of her medical treatment–that’s off limits. I will answer all questions regarding school policy. If she objects to any question whatsoever for any reason, she isn’t going to answer. If I object to any question for any reason, she isn’t going to answer. The answers to your questions regarding school policy will be the same for Miss Kaitlyn as they would be for any other female teacher.

More than half of the questions directed to me were answered by Mr. P saying, "I’ll answer that, that’s a school policy question, " with an occasional, “She’s not answering that.”

For example, a section of the questioning went something like this:

Parent A: Which bathroom do you use?
Me: I use the women’s bathroom.
Parent A: Do you go into the student bathrooms?
Mr. P: That’s a school policty question. Teachers of both sexes are allowed to enter either boys’ or girls’ restrooms if to protect a student of if they suspect that some illegal or dangerous activity is going on.
Parent A: That didn’t really answer my question.
Mr. P: Yes it did. That’s the district policy and it applies to her the same as any other teacher.

Another section:

Parent B: How long have you been a transsexual.
Me: Since I first understood the difference between boys and girls, probably about the age of 3 or 4.
Parent B: That’s not what I mean. How long have you felt like a woman in a man’s body?
Me: Since I was about 3 or 4.
Parent B: You’re not listening. What I . . .
Mr. P: She answered your question twice. Rephrasing it won’t change the answer. Next question.

Another One:

Parent C: Are you married?
Me: Yes.
Parent C: To a man or a woman?
Me: A woman.
Parent C: So you’re gay?
Me: Yes.
Parent C: How do I know you’re not going to be pushing some homosexual agenda in your classroom?
Mr. P: That’s a school policy question. Teachers teach a curriculum approved by the state and local boards of education in accordance with district policy. They submit quarterly and weekly lesson plans to me so that I can review their methods of implementing the curriculum. If there is some objectionable content in a teacher’s lessons, I speak to the teacher ahead of time to determine if there is an alternate method for achiving the same objective. Parents are allowed to come in and observe teachers in their classroom at any time so long as they check in at the office and get a pass before going the teacher’s class.

Most of the questions were polite, if a bit naive, and whenever someone got rude or too personal, Mr. P shut them down firmly but politely, usually with one of those long, boring reiterations of school policy. The q and a’s were mostly the kind of things you see in the two threads here–without the information on sexually related matters.

And you would be amazed at what constitutes a “School Policty” question:

Parent D: I don’t want some freak teaching in my school!

Mr P: That’s a school policy question, I’ll answer it. First, this isn’t your school. It is the property of the state and of the school district, run in accordance to state law and district policy. Neither state law nor district policy include being a freak as a disqalifying factor for obtaining a teaching liscense in this state. As a point of fact, most freaks are protected by workplace non-discrimination policies, If we do at some time in the future decide to hire some freaks they will be provided appropriate accmmodations as are needed for their conditions. [Turning to Mr. VP]: Do we have any freaks scheduled for interviews?
Mr. VP: I’ll have to check my calendar, and get back to you on that tomorrow.

He managed to treat every insult, not that there were many, as if it were a school policy issue, and deflect the question into a general discussion of school policy without mentioning me individually. The message was consistently the same–I am no different from any other teacher in the school and will behave and be treated the same as they are.

Apparently, being a transsexual makes me an expert on all things related to all aspects of transsexuality, homosexuality, and sexuality in

Another exchange:

Parent D: How many people are there like you?
Me: There are about 140 million (at this point I had to stop and clear my throat for a second) women in the United States.
Parent D: Uh, no, I mean, uh, like you.
Mr. P: I think Parent D wants to know how many transsexuals there are.
Me: Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t understand the question. I don’t know.

That was pretty much it. Mr. P answering questions by quoting policy, and me giving the same answers you’ve read earlier in this thread.

Several parents shook my hand on the way out and welcomed me to the school, which was very nice.

Does Mr P walk around the halls with a baseball bat in his hands?

The reactiion was almost completely positive. Two or three teachers ducked out very quickly after the main announcement. Most of them wanted to hang out for a few minutes afterwards and tell me that they couldn’t tell and they were glad I stuck it to the school district and got my job back.

Will you please tell Mr. P. that a genderqueer gay guy from Canada whom he’s never met thinks he’s the bomb?

Me too ('cepting I’m neither gay nor Canadian - nor, for that matter, am I dead, to fill out the sometimes-quoted triumverate).

I was smuggled out of North Korea a baby and adopted by an American couple out of a South Korean orphanage. I don’t know about the situation now, but at the time–the early 70’s–it was very difficult for North Korean refugees to get adopted into South Korean homes, so the majority ended up in orphanages unless adopted oversees.

I was also lucky in that most of the children available at the time for adoption were girls. It wasn’t unheard of for poor families with both boys and girls to sell their little girls to overseas adoption agencies, who then peddled them as orphans. I was adopted fairly quickly, probably before I was 2, but there’s no way of knowing for sure.

This is part of what’s causing my dad problems. They chose me specifically because they already had a girl and wanted a boy.

My sister married a very controling hardcore fundamentalist when she was 17. Over the years her personality has gradually eroded and been replaced by the one he wants her to have.

My brother has always been a little protective of me. I gave off a “gay vibe” in high school that spooked some of the other students. Add in that I was a nerd and you have a deadly combination for a small town Midwest high school. He shielded me from the other kids abuse as much as he could, and we were best friends growing up. He thinks of himself as my big brother despite being three years younger than I am.

I think I could sound more like a guy if I wanted to, but I haven’t done that in months. My pitch is higher than it was as a result of voice training to raise the pitch. People routinely identify me on the phone as female without my having to make any effort. The feminine vocal characteristics are my “natural” voice now.

Green Lake is fictional (from the book Holes). I use it because I’d prefer not to reveal my exact location. I live in a medium-sized city that’s part of a larger metro area.

The second bar that I mentioned isn’t so much a gay bar as it is a gay friendly bar. There are more people in there that are straight than gay, but they don’t blink an eye if Mrs. Six and I enjoy a slow dance together.

Yes, but they tend to be a bit smaller on average than they would have been if they had developed during regular puberty. The longer it’s been since the first puberty, and the more pronounce the masculine features at the beginning, the greater this effect. A MTF who begins hormones in her teens fares much better than one who begins in her 30’s or 40’s.

I had a disorder that caused unusually low levels of androgens to be produced in my body, leading to my masculine features developing much more slowly–at 28 I could have passed for a teenaged boy, so my hormones have been as effective as they would on a teenager, perhaps more so.

My breasts are developing quite nicely, and I should end up with somwhere in the range of a small B cup, which will be more than enough to keep me happy without implants.

We sure did. Plenty of frozen sperm sittin’ around at the sperm bank ready to be used for baby makin’.

There may come a day when I can laugh at the convention story the way I do at the encounter with the UPS box, but it’s ain’t gonna be any time soon.

I’m really happy that the parent meeting went well, Kaitlyn. The “worst-case scenario” outcome could have been a total meltdown, but it sounds as though you came through with flying colors, aided to no small extent by some superb “blocking” by the admirable Mr. P (BTW I’d like to propose that Martin Sheen be cast as Mr. P in the movie).

You just couldn’t resist, could you? :smiley:
(I’ll bet your timing on the throat-clearing and deadpan delivery were just perfect, and Mrs. Six and the entire faculty must have been in great pain not to burst out in guffaws!)

I have three new heroes that I did not know about a day or so ago: Kaitlyn, Mrs. Six, and Mr. P.

(Honorable mention goes to Mr. VP, who sounds as though he makes a great “straight man” to Mr. P, and a fine “Bad Cop” when necessary. Also, all of the kids and parents who view the controversy as being “so yesterday”).

I’m so glad that you landed up in this school, Kaitlyn, even though I know your journey there was long and painful. I hope the kids (and adults!) make the most of the inspiration that you provide.

Thanks also for keeping us folks at the SDMB up on the latest details! I know that this is an incredibly busy time for you, but it’s nice to realize that the Dopers-- with very few exceptions – are such a wonderful support network.

[Raises glass of wine as a toast in the direction of Green Lake, TX].

Not totally fictional. When I read your amazing story, I looked up “Green Lake, TX” on Microsoft Streets and Trips, and found that there’s a small town of that name at the intersection of highways 35 and 185 (Lat 28.52N, Long 96.79W), near Matagordo Bay in South Texas.

Since that’s clearly too small to support two grade schools, I figured that either you lived there and commuted to Victoria, TX, or it was just a place that you chose as your SDMB “location” because it meant something to you. I was rather impressed to learn that tolerant school principals (not to mention gay bars) existed anywhere in small-town TX, since that rather conflicted with my world view! You’ve now burst that bubble… :wink:

(How on earth do you find the time to keep us up to date with all of this while so much new stuff is going on in your life? My admiration knows no bounds!)

Congratulations! I am very happy that everything is going so well.

No, not Martin Sheen… he’s too slick (I think it’s the hair). Mr. P would have to be either Harvey Keitel or Gene Hackman. Average looking, and not too pretty. He’d have to look like a “regular guy,” who could be a hard ass, a real stickler for the rules, but with a soft side he shows only to the most deserving.

Mr. VP would be the one that the parents think they can use to get to Mr. P. But, he’s really the trusty sidekick, ever willing to back Mr. P with a verbal middle finger to jerk off parents and put them in their place. He’d have to be a bit younger and better looking (thus seeming friendlier and accessible). I’m proposing Keifer Sutherland or Andy Garcia.

Alrighty then… I think it’s time to call some agents. :wink:
Kaitlyn- I’m glad the meeting didn’t turn out to be a scream fest, and I love the way Mr. P and Mr. VP shut the assholish parents down. Tell Mr. P he’s got a rapidly forming fan club!

And by the way- Honey, if you can wear two inch heels and be even slightly comfortable in them, you’re more a woman than I’ll ever be! I really admire your strength of character, your wit and grace under fire. You make me want to stand up and fight the ignorance with you! You’re the kind of person that I’d like to be around just to absorb some of your goodness. That really isn’t a full summation of how I feel, because I’m falling short with my vocabulary. I just want you to know that you are a true inspiration. If I could give you a hug, I surely would. (sorry to sound so gushing)

Kaitlyn, would I be out of line if I said that I’m starting to get eaten up with curiosity as to what you look like? I don’t need to know what Keith looked like, but I am interested to know if my mental image of Kaitlyn tucking her hair behind her ears is at all accurate. :slight_smile:

Mr. P needs to be played by Dennis Farina. Yea, baby.

She mentioned somewhere, either here or in the other thread, that she bears a resemblance to Grace Park.
As to Mr P, I want to say that, for the a good story arc, he needs to start with his own prejudices, but, because he’s a professional, he acts accordingly. As he gets to know Kaitlyn this becomes respect and finally friendship. Might not be the way it plays out in real life, but he’s just too good to be true to be believable on screen. Let’s make him a little human.

Oh, also I want to nominate James McDaniel, who played Lt. Fancy on NYPD Blue, as Mr. P.

Kaitlyn, you’re amazing!

I’m so glad that the second meeting went ok, sounds like things will work out alright, assholes will be assholes, but you’ve got right on your side. We know from martial arts movies that, even when heavily outnumbered, the good guys (and girls) always triumph.

No no no. Stephen Graham.

Parent D: So you’re going to let some freak teach my daughter’s classes?
VP: What’s up? Don’t think I’ve got the minerals?

Sorry for posting late, Kaitlyn, but not only has this thread been extremely interesting and converted me into a Kaitlyn fan, it’s convinced me that maybe reason can triumph over bigotry and ignorance in school systems. Bravo!

Kaitlyn, you are my heroine. If I had kids, and I wasn’t afraid of Texas, (I lived in Brooklyn, so I’m not afraid of idiots, I’m just afraid of bugs, snakes, and gators), I’d move there so you could teach them.

I’m having a hard time putting into words what I’m feeling as I read your story - it’s a combination of admiration, joy for your happiness, and hopelessness at some of the idiots out there. But those words aren’t really strong enough, nor do they really explain it. I hope your new life continues to bring you happiness, love, and fulfillment - of course, with that sense of humor, how can it not?

And yes, Mr. P rocks - I vote for Colin Ferrell to play him (oh, come on, you guys - like Mr. P’s attitude and Colin Ferrell’s accent wouldn’t kick some serious ass?).

E.

I just realized that this looks faintly obscene… :eek:

Wow. Talk about grace under fire, for both you and the principal. It’s already been stated that you’re flat-out awesome. He, too, seems like an amazing man. Can we get more people like that in public schools? Cloning, maybe/

Add a married straight guy from North Carolina to matt’s and punha’s endorsement – that man is like a character out of fiction. I’m very impressed with him!

(And you yourself, Kaitlyn, are handling this whole thing with amazing gracefulness – let me add my kudos to the 138 previous posts telling you that you rock!)