MLB: May 2015

Does the common man in Milwaukee worship Bud Selig?

It’s obvious baseball insiders absolutely worship the man; he seems to have a hold on the baseball establishment that is really quite unmatched by any other executive in the entire history of the sport, and his command over the Brewers franchise, if indirect, is absolute. But the Brewers act as if the general public really loves the guy - statues, retired numbers, and now a goddamned museum.

I can’t offhand think of an owner in any sport who is regarded this way by the fans. Most owners are corporations now, I guess, but when they’re people they’re usually reviled (Marge Schott, Harold Ballard, Steinbrenner) or admired either mildly (Eugene Melnyk) or grudgingly (Mark Cuban) or both reviled and respected (Al Davis.) The owner I can think of who was the most liked was Gene Autry, I’d think, and when you account for the fact Autry was already a beloved media star, I don’t think it can be said Angels fans revered the man for being the owner of a baseball team. But compared to Gene Autry, Bud Selig is held up as Milwaukee’s Christ.

So Wisconsin Dopers, is this true? Do Brewers fans revere Bud Selig?

Not a Milwaukee fan, but I have relatives who are (and are pretty adamant Brewers fans as well). They don’t seem to fawn over him. We ran into him at a frozen custard shop a few summers ago (2011 - right after the end of the regular season, which went down to the last game for a number of the divisions). It was, I’m sure, a real feather in the cap for Selig. No one in the place went up to shake his hand or ask for an autograph - but I’m not sure if they would if Milwaukee clearly DID revere him. I personally wanted to congratulate him on one of the best weeks in baseball ever, but the guy just wanted some custard, yaknow?

I remember that, at one point, MLB and Selig were talking about contraction. Losing a team or two due to falling revenue. I remember that Selig seemed to have a hard-on about getting rid of the Minnesota Twins. I always wondered by he seemed to have a bug about THAT team in particular, until someone pointed out that the Twins were kind of competing for some of the TV revenue that the Brewers were getting (Minneapolis is about 330 miles away from Milwaukee…Chicago’s closer - at only 92 miles - but there’s no way that either the Cubs or White Sox would have been contracted).

Unfairly or not, I always held it against Selig that the next closest team to the Twins, should they cease to exist, would be the team he owned at one time (and that was still owned by his family until 2004).

Well, in fairness, there’s now whispering of contracting the Rays and the A’s.

“Contraction” is a code word for “build us a new stadium.” Much of the North American professional sports business model is based on getting the common taxpayer to build stadia for the member franchises, who get the stadiums or use thereof for either nothing or a sweet cut rate, thus siphoning millions of dollars from the government into the team coffers.

To extract the free stadium, it’s important to threaten the jurisdiction with the loss of the team, either by moving them of contracting them. Every now and then you’ve got to actually do it. It’s been eleven years since MLB moved the Expos to Washington (Montreal wouldn’t build them a new stadium) so it’s about time to kick ass again.

In fairness, Oakland plays in a horrible stadium and has been trying their level best to get a new one for years and years. Tampa Bay plays in a horrible stadium that well ill-conceived from the get go. So it’s certainly true both teams could use better digs. What would be fair is if they built the damn stadia themselves, like any normal business would do if it needed a new facility, but MLB would never allow this to happen again because it hurts their leverage with every other city in North America. Far better to lean on them until either they crack or someone in Brooklyn, Montreal, Portland or wherever says “Hell, I’ll build you a shiny new stadium, let’s pass a tax to raise some money” and you can turn the Tampa Bay Rays into the Portland Wolves. Then, later on, the bitter residents of Tampa Bay might build a shiny new stadium into which you can move an expansion team and make even more money.

Bud Selig’s own Milwaukee Brewers departed a city (Seattle) that later got another team that moved directly into a new stadium and later extracted yet another new stadium, all financed by the hapless taxpayer. The Brewers, of course, are themselves a replacement for the Braves, who were lured away from Milwaukee by a shiny new stadium in Atlanta financed by the hapless taxpayer, which was later replaced by another new stadium financed by the hapless taxpayer, and which will in 2017 be, in turn, replaced by a shiny new stadium financed by the hapless taxpayer. When the Brewers arrived in Milwaukee in 1970 they sadly did not get a shiny new stadium - the move was made so quickly they didn’t even have time to change the uniforms to what they wanted - but they did eventually get Miller Park, which was financed by, well, you know.

So when they were talking about “contracting” the Twins and Expos, what they really were doing was getting shiny new stadiums. Mission accomplished! Minnesota build Target Field and the Expos got new digs in DC, paid for by - you guessed it - the hapless taxpayer.

The Rays have a lease that runs another 20-25 years or something. They’ve tried to get out of it but they need permission from the St. Pete City Council even to go looking for another location, and that’s been voted down. Any viable site would be in Tampa, along I-4, where it could attract Orlando-area fans and be more accessible to anybody else in Tampa Bay, too. But not St. Pete, which is why the city won’t let itself be bought out. So there’s nothing left the Rays can do for another generation - no matter what happens to the facility, they can’t fix its location.

Oakland is not a bad site, really, it even has its own BART station, but there’s just no money in Alameda County to build a new facility there. The Raiders and the Warriors need better than what they’ve got, too - but they can’t get together to form a coalition in favor of renovating or replacing the complex, not as long as the Raiders are hoping for a new stadium in LA that they could get for free.

August Busch Jr., owner of the Cardinals from the fifties until his death in 1989, was pretty well liked by fans. Some of that was also due to Anheuser Busch being the city’s flagship industry for many years. I don’t think anyone would build a museum to him, and he probably wasn’t as loved as Gene Autry. But around St. Louis, he was like a rich, fun-loving grandfather. I remember when new ownership came in, there was a prevalent feeling that the bean counters were going to take all the fun out of it, not like good old Gussie tossing money around and riding through the outfield in his silly red cowboy hat. Maybe. Seems to have worked out OK, though. Hmm, the Cards are 31-16, the best record in the majors. Well, wouldja look at that!

RickJay:

I’d say that Ewing Kauffman was beloved by Royals fans.

ETA: Looking at the above message, maybe it’s a Missouri thing.

Okay, Kauffman’s a good example. He even has a statue.

Tom Yawkey was certainly beloved by the Red Sox beat reporters, all of whom were his drinking buddies and shared his racial views. Any other kind didn’t last long.

But that doesn’t necessarily translate into his having been beloved by the fans. There were a lot of empty seats watching all those losing teams for all those years too.

Perhaps Rocky Wirtz, principle owner of the Blackhawks. His father was one of the worst owners in hockey who presided over a total laughingstock. The team made dramatic strides under Rocky, including winning the Stanley Cup twice. Naturally, this gets him an awful lot of love from Blackhawk fans.

The turnaround wasn’t entirely due to Rocky – most of the teams best players were already drafted by the time he took over – but frankly I have no confidence that his father wouldn’t have screwed it up again.

Beginning play tonight, the lowest batting average of any of the Giants starting position players is .293. I know this kind of hitting can’t last forever, but it sure is fun right now…

That’s it. The umps must die.

The Reds caught fire against the Nationals. Not just did they sweep Washington, they made them look sick doing it. Cincy had a few big innings that really made them look impressive.

Yeah, the Cardinals even retired #85 in his honor.

Had not heard these whispers yet. Why do they threaten contraction rather than moving, like NFL teams? A new stadium in Tampa will do nothing to boost Rays attendance. They can’t get people to their playoff games when they’re good.

I disagree; I think a properly located stadium in Tampa would help a lot. It is impossible to exaggerate how ill-conceived Tropicana Field is.

Incidentally, that’s now three games in the last week the Blue Jays have lost because of outfield defense. I am so frustrated by this piece of shit organization. The AL East is open for the taking, they made two good moves, and then just said “welp, we’re done” despite having more holes than Swiss cheese.

Everything that has gone wrong with the Blue Jays was wholly predictable. You point at anything that has gone wrong. Except for the injury to Marcus Stroman, which happened long enough ago that they could have done something about it by now, not one bit of it can possibly be classified as even the slightest bit surprising.

The two old sarting pitchers declined? Of course they did, they’re old. No surprise.
A few of the really young pitchers needed to go back to the minors? Of course that’s going to happen; if you have five guys under 25, naturally a few will blow up.
Michael Saunders is hurt? Of course, he’s always been fragile.
Jose Reyes is hurt? He’s always hurt.
Jose Bautista got hurt? He gets hurt a lot (look it up.)
Dalton Pompey didn’t hit well? Why is that surprising? He’s 22 and had hardly any experience.
Kevin Pillar can’t hit? He never could, why would he start now?
The relief corps has been bad? Sure, most people saw that coming.

Lots of things have gone right - Josh Donaldson is a goddamn monster - but everything wrong was an entirely predictable consequence of the choices the team made and they’re blowing the best chance they’ve had at the postseason since they blew it in 2000.

At least you’re not the Red Sox. I’m seeing “John Farrell” and “hot seat” in headlines today. Personally, I blame Ben Cherington. I hated the Pablo Sandoval signing and basically swapping Jon Lester for Rick Porcello made no sense.

How are folks in Boston feeling about the Panda these days? He seems to be doing pretty much what he does every year, which is not quite playing up to expectations in the regular season.

Get him into October, though…and he suddenly transforms into something else entirely.

June thread now open.