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I’m not an “idiot”…and I certainly don’t “act like a dolt all the time”.

Oh, and FWIW, you can’t extract LSD from a plant. duh.

…and another thing…I didn’t post “illegal shit”.

KO said:

Opinions vary on that one.

Yeah, he really overstated his case there. I mean, I’m sure it’s no more than 95, 96% of the time.

True. You invited others to do so. My humble apologies. :rolleyes:

No, I simply asked if there was more than one version of an eye chart. That’s it. Asking this question is in no way any kind of an invitation to others to “break the law”, or post “illegal shit”.

Sheesh.

Since I’m such an “idiot”, perhaps someone can point out specifically where it is in these 3 posts that I made to that thread that I “invited people to post illegal shit”
Post #1, the OP:

Is the eye test chart standard, and therefore could you memorize it line by line in order to pass the test?
Post #2:

You presume correctly galt…hypothetically of course.

How many different versions of the chart are there?
Post #3:
I’m not asking on my behalf…I’ve got 20/20. Someone I know though is getting a license for the first time and has one bad eye and will have to read the chart one eye at a time.

…so the question remains…how many versions of the chart exist?

Sorry for dragging this out, but I feel that I must defend these wild and baseless accusations against me.

That’s fine. But then, Chronos didn’t close the thread after this post.

Again, Chronos didn’t close the thread after this post.

Okay, now look at this. I mean, honestly, Krispy. You’re asking about how many versions there are and how one could memorize the charts because you’ve got a friend who is about to get their liscence. By stating that he has a bad eye, you openly draw the inference that he couldn’t pass the test normally. Therefore, your own words leads anyone reading to assume that you’re trying to help him cheat the test. Bingo, you’re soliciting information to commit a crime, and Chronos appropriately closes the thread.

No, if you were defending the wild and baseless accusations against you, you’d be stating that Lexicon has every right to state that you hide in his closet every night with a butcher knife. You’re trying to defend yourself from allegations you consider wild and baseless.

Though, for wild and baseless allegations, I have yet to see a single other poster state anything other than their belief that Chronos was right in this situation.
As a further note- should this thread reach 5 pages, I’ll close it down and start a continuation thread. But I wanted to announce that now rather than have Krispy claim on page 5 that we’re closing the thread to keep him oppressed.

Assumption incorrect.

…and still the question remains…where am I “inviting others to post illegal shit”?..

Oh, and great nit-picking on my ommision of the word “from”…maybe I misspelled something to eh?..punctuation?..how about grammatical errors?

I’d also like to add to John’s analysis of post #3 is that your scenario ceased to be hypothetical at that point. There is nothing to indicate that the situation with your friend is hypothetical. That’s where you messed up.

We’re not trying to interpret your motives. Had Chronos closed the thread after your first or even your second post then you’d have a case for claiming that. But in your third post you provide us with your motive in detail, and that motive is illegal and generally sketchy.

You may not like the fact that Chronos closed the thread, but we’ve done it before in similar situations with posters who weren’t you, Krispy, and we’ll probably do it again.

You may choose not to believe this Krispy, but it’s nothing personal. It’s strictly business.

Illegal shit? Last time I checked, shit was legal.
Back to the topic…

What would John Corrado do?
yet again, the right thing.

BTW, the suggestion about closing the thread is a good onje. I should have put that in the OP.

And:

I’ll just let the powerful forces of sheer irony do their work here while I laugh my fucking ass off.

Krispy, drop it. You’re not convincing anyone here.

In late breaking news today, a local man was arrested at his home on the charges of intent to commit a crime. The suspect was caught asking how many versions of an eye chart existed. During the course of an extensive investigation, police learned that the suspect did in fact know someone with poor vision. Further, the suspect admitting to knowing a vision challenged person who was soon to apply for a drivers license. District Attorney Smith was quoted as saying “We just can’t tolerate these types of thoughts”. “If we were to overlook something like this, who knows where things could lead? Next thing you know, someone might admit to be thinking about jaywalking”. More at 11…

Cite? :smiley:

I think you’re taking this to personally Krispy. We closed a thread. I don’t think you’ll find too many privately owned message boards that would be too happy about posters requesting assistance to commit a crime, regardless of how harmless you may consider that crime, Krispy.

[Edited by Alphagene on 02-09-2001 at 10:53 AM]

Q. what should you do when your carrying a dead horse to a flogging?

A. Drop it.
thank you! thank you! Take my wife. Please!

Yeepers! I have to come to the defense of Sue Dunhym and ** Kyberneticist** here. The site to which they linked does not contain instructions on the manufacture of LSD. It does, however contain instructions on extracting LSA from morning glory seeds.

LSA is a controlled substance in the United States, illegal to manufacture or possess without the requisite licenses/prescriptions/whatever.

As a matter of policy, Chronos and I close threads or edit posts in cases where it seems clear that there will be instructions on how to commit an illegal act and that there is a reasonable possibility that a normal person would/could follow those instructions (that proviso is why the atomic bomb threads are allowed to live, for example). So I edited out the links. I’ve done it before, I did it yesterday, and I’ll do it next year, unless or until I receive instructions from Tuba or Ed that our policy has changed and that “borderline” illegal stuff is OK.

But LSA, illegal as it is, is no LSD. I have complete confidence that neither poster would in a million years link to a site with instructions on the manufacture of LSD.

LSD? Least Significant Digit?

I’m ready to drop this now. We’ve heard from manny who has corrected Coldfire’s inaccurate statement, and I’m satisfied with the fact that I’ve made it clear that I didn’t “invite others to post illegal shit” and that nobody has proven how I did.

This is my last post on these topics.

What’s inaccurate about my statement, Krispy, knowing that I did not have access to the link at hand? manhattan merely corrected the substance he referred to in the relevant thread. Either substance (LSD or LSA) is a controlled one in the US. What’s invalid about my statement?

You wouldn’t be, I dunno, trying to get a rise out of me, would you? Have you already forgotten about what I told you regarding making baseless allegations? Scroll up a little. And re-read the part where I say you’re acting like a dolt as well. It applies. Again.

Once again you have misconstrued not only my words but the intent of my post to Cartooniverse. Nowhere did I “slap orders on him,” I merely requested that he refrain from addressing me further. Of course he is under no obligation to heed my request, but I let him know that if he didn’t I would consider it harrassment and would therefore let his ISP know that he was in violation of his TOS.

What you fail to grasp here, kabbes, is that everyone is always OBLIGATED to abide by their ISP’s TOS wherever they go and whatever they do on the internet, without regard to whether someone “warns” them that they could be in violation of said terms. Therefore, depending on how one conducts themselves when participating in a forum such as this, one is always “on pain of being reported for harassment” by anyone at any time, request to stop or not. That makes my request to Cartooniverse completely irrelevant to whether the “board goes in [that] direction.” It’s already there, like it or not, and you agreed to understand those rules when you signed up with your ISP (as did every other participant here).

And the little scenario you outlined above borders on the ridiculous as far as examples of this goes - at least as it compares to my encounter with Cartooniverse. Heated debates are not, in and of themselves, harrassing and do not constitute violations of any ISPs TOS that I’m aware of. I’ve participated in quite a few on these boards and will probably stick my two cents into some more. Name-calling in the 'Pit kindof goes with the territory, if it’s warranted in some way.

However, Cartooniverse was not debating with me. As he posted each subsequent reply, I could feel him becoming more and more angry and this uncontrolled anger seemed to me to be escalating in a direction that I was not comfortable with. I could practically see him sitting there shaking voilently, ready to punch his fist through the monitor at me, for no reason whatsoever.

It’s really not up to you to question whether or not I felt it necessary to get what I viewed as a rabid dog off my ass. Obviously I did think it was necessary at the time or I wouldn’t have done it. I was merely paying attention to the warning signs that an unprovoked attack seemed iminent and taking steps to ensure I would not be bitten.

I really, really hope we’re clear on all of this now.