I’m, not defending Islam, moron, I’m saying Christianity isn’t any better. All people are assholes. Religion has nothing to do with it.
Which Islam are you defending? The true Islam, or one of the others?
Please see Post 237.
He didn’t say assholes couldn’t type.
Considering the fact that you believe Muslim academics who admire Al Jazeera as “Islamophobic douchebags” it’s pretty obvious you’re not in any position to make comments about religion.
Please read some books on the subject and once you’re able to spout more than banal cliches come back to the grownups table.
Until then, stop bothering the adults.
I must be agnostic by inclination as well as conviction, because certainty creeps me out.
Yeah, you and Magellan, the adults.
Are you completely incapable of adding anything of substance? Damn, your schtick is tired.
As is yours.
When in large parts of the world the ‘culture’ and ‘religion’ have been so intertwined for so long they have become one this is just an academic distinction with no meaning.
The fact is that in large parts of the world Islam as taken an extremely barbaric form. It might not have been like it in the past and it might not be like that in the future and it might not be like that in many societies in the present.
That doesn’t alter the fact these atrocities are done under the auspices of Islam and some barbarities, such as the execution of apostates, are coded into the law of our supposed allies like Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Islam, as practiced (and I don’t care about ‘no true Scotsman’ hand-waving about the mumbo jumbo) is some parts of the world at the moment is barbaric and should be condemned.
Where it is not, it should not be painted with a broad brush.
And too right I’m happy to condemn The RCC and Catholicism for its many and various crimes against humanity up to and including the present day.
As for the evil of Fundamentalist Christianity as in Uganda and aided and abetted by their US allies. That is also a crime.
The sooner organised religion dies of embarrassment the better off we’d all be.
No one was supposed to need to stand up for her. After reading your cite, I fear you missed this,
Oh well, I’m sure you just didn’t notice it, after all, that it was the bulk of the article did make it hard to spot in your zeal to find some new reason to bitch about Islam.
I guess you missed AK84’s post too,
Just because something is illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t still happen. Seems like the Bangladesh government is already doing exactly what you all seem to want, what the fuck are they supposed to do if some segment of the population isn’t interested in following along?
As far as I know it’s illegal to kick the shit out of a person under arrest . . . not that that stops it from happening here. But I guess that’s really not that bad . . . since it wasn’t Moooslims doing the kicking. :rolleyes:
CMC fnord!
So, magellan, tell us now, what it was behind those folks, seems to have been entire towns, in the US who helped some dude who killed a doctor hide out for so long. Can you do that? After all, the killer’s rationale for offing the doctor was the killer’s belief, Christianity, wasn’t it? And this all happened in a country that outlaws such killing.
Whole towns? What whole towns?
Let me tell you:
You are speaking of Eric Rudolph, apprehended in Murphy NC.
Many town residents knew of his existence, and some may
even have known who he was, and abetted him. But it is highly
unlikely that the “whole town” was in on the act, and even if
the whole town was, *its population is only ~1500. *
Being a scientist you would know that one such isolated sample
is not enough to draw any conclusions from.
On the other hand, I think the Pew sample is probably a good
enough base for worldwide extrapolation. It’s a lot better than
Murphy NC, that’s for sure!
There is also the fact that about two or so abortion MDs total
have victims of Christian terrorist murder, limited geographically
to the USA, admittedly a big place. But compare those two or so
abortionist victims with what are, by now, 100s of thousands of
victims of Islamic terror, all the way from Bali to the Middle East,
to New York City. And after you’re done with the comparing give
us your scientific opinion as to which is worse, and I mean much worse.
Ah. You probably shoulda said. Mine, too.
Thanks for responding.
So, what was that newspaper you linked to? Is it one that you read all the time? If not, how did you happen to find it?
P.S. You should totally ask the mods to close this thread, as it appears to have been hijacked beyond all redemption.
I fear you didn’t read the last paragraph in my OP.
You’ve actually presented very good evidence that Islam isn’t the problem.
The fact that there is such a wide variance among percentages from nation to nation shows that the controlling factor isn’t Islam. If Islam were the controlling factor, typically you’d see much more similar percentages of muslims favoring capital punishment for apostacy from nation to nation.
You know, I don’t know the paper. And I forget how I found it. I think it was through one of the British news sites, which I got to through Drudge. They seem to include more non-Western news than the usual U.S. sites.
In addition to what NCDane offered, it is my recollection that Rudolph managed to evade capture through his knowledge of the deep woods in the area, and his ability to spend extended periods out there. No doubt he had some people helping him, but the picture you paint I don’t think resembles reality.
One day, magellan, you, along with NCDane, just might realize that’s the whole point of my post. Since you seem to have trouble grasping the issue, here it is in a nutshell: You are painting a picture that does not reflect reality.
See my post #135 here:
Thread: Are we being naive about the possibility of Egyptian “democracy”?
It’s a bit long, but I am confident you can handle it.
I would like to add that it is a measure of the complete and utter
unreality of your position that you could simply dismiss religion as
being irrelevant to the core life and death beliefs of 100s of millions
of people.