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I didn’t read every inch of the fine print, therefore it’s completely my fault?
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Yeah, pretty much. Welcome to the wonderful world of contracts. One mis-worded sentence, not my fault and changed without my permission, cost me $22,000 once on a project. BUT, the person who signed it (not me…) should have read it first.
[QUOTE=Miller]
Except in so far as you’d be watching a Cubs game.
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Or scalping the fuck out of those tickets then disappearing into the land of mist and fog . . .
What part of RTFM is it that folks who seem to be smart enough to use teh intertubes don’t understand? Poor baby.
Buttonjockey308, you fucked up, and sadly, I bet you will never be able to understand that. Do you post on copswritingcops when you can’t whine your way out of a ticket, too?
I worked at StubHub for 2 years. I have yet to read this though, but will be doing so on my belated lunch break, beginning nowish. Specific questions welcome. Be back soonish.
[QUOTE=Miller]
Except in so far as you’d be watching a Cubs game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don’t care, my Cubs are my Cubs, a bad day at Wrigley beats the best day anywhere else (YMMV, of course).
[QUOTE=Freddy the Pig]
Well believe it or not, especially when it’s playoffs, some of us actually go there to watch the game. And we don’t see much of it with a post in front of us.
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I go to watch the game too, sparky. I get into the park for that with my ticket, and the rest is up to me. You can watch the game from anywhere in the park, neat thing, that.
[QUOTE=Una Persson]
Yeah, pretty much. Welcome to the wonderful world of contracts. One mis-worded sentence, not my fault and changed without my permission, cost me $22,000 once on a project. BUT, the person who signed it (not me…) should have read it first.
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Yep. I should have, pisses me off I didn’t and kinda pisses me off a little that I wasn’t prompted to look for it, but I sold the tickets for a fair price to someone I know to be a true fan, which is good, because I think Harvey is a bandwagon shithead, and he can STILL kiss my ass.
[QUOTE=Darth Nader]
Buttonjockey308, you fucked up, and sadly, I bet you will never be able to understand that. Do you post on copswritingcops when you can’t whine your way out of a ticket, too?
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Yep, I know (see above) and you know what, I don’t speed (at least not very often) because I KNOW the consequences of that. More than that though, I don’t flash the button just because I got pulled over. If I get pulled over, and I’m not actually DOING something that officially calls for me to exceed the posted SL, there’s no cause for that cop NOT to write me, and I’m not using that influence to avoid a ticket. If I can talk my way out of it, all the better, but I don’t buy into that “spare me, I do the same thing” shit.
Ok, actually, pretty cut and try. Also, since I’m ashamed that I worked at StubHub, I must point out that it wasn’t for two years, it was two years ago.
Plain & simple: “Harvey” is a reseller. Absolutely no doubt about it. He was never planning on going to the game. When he sees “limited view” it means “I can’t sell this seat to a savvy fan.” He also knows that SH has safety nets set up for people who truly do get screwed by limited view seats, so he takes advantage of them, probably gets better seats, and you didn’t paid shit. He takes advantage of guarantees in place to help fans, not sharks.
Also, unfortunately, they’ve got you. You realized it. Shoulda read the “terms and conditions.” It’s unfortunate, but its true. That said, as an FYI, venues mark seats “limited view” when sometimes you or I wouldn’t consider them limited view, like, say, while sitting in the first three rows. A casual fan thinks that’s great. A whiner thinks its limited view because vendors walk in front of them. So the venue marks it “limited view” in order to protect itself from the whiners. Nevermind you’re going to a baseball game and not the opera. This is lost on some folks. Sadly, as others have noted (and you yourself admitted), this is just another case of getting fucked by fine print and getting crappy service from a phone jockey. This happens to me weekly.
Me: Calling stubhub
SH: Hi, How can I help you?
Me: If the listing does not say “Limited View”, then it will not have limited view on the tickets?
SH: That is correct, seller must list any restrictions when they put the ticket up for sale.
Me: Ok, thank you.
I buy the tickets and get them in the mail a week later.
Care to guess what they said?
Jackass
[QUOTE=howye]
Me: Calling stubhub
SH: Hi, How can I help you?
Me: If the listing does not say “Limited View”, then it will not have limited view on the tickets?
SH: That is correct, seller must list any restrictions when they put the ticket up for sale.
Me: Ok, thank you.
I buy the tickets and get them in the mail a week later.
Care to guess what they said?
Jackass
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You’re a day late and a dollar short on the thread, that had you read all the way through would have shown that I admitted defeat and my own stupidity. Kindly fuck off now, k?
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]
You’re a day late and a dollar short on the thread, that had you read all the way through would have shown that I admitted defeat and my own stupidity. Kindly fuck off now, k?
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Kindly fuck yourself. You opened a pit thread to bitch about something you wrong about from the start. Someone came in and posted a comment about how they were screwed about the same improper behavior and you you think you have the high ground.
I did read the thread and my comment was not directed at you personally. But it would seem you still have some guilt issues relating to your inability to read a contract?
[QUOTE=howye]
Kindly fuck yourself. You opened a pit thread to bitch about something you wrong about from the start. Someone came in and posted a comment about how they were screwed about the same improper behavior and you you think you have the high ground.
I did read the thread and my comment was not directed at you personally. But it would seem you still have some guilt issues relating to your inability to read a contract?
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You called me a jackass, how is that not directed at me you fucking moron?
I don’t think I have the high ground, I think I didn’t read every little scrap of info SH put out regarding the selling of tickets, and that I fucked up (though I’m not letting SH off the hook completely, because 1. They lied like rugs about the messages they left. 2. Because I couldn’t ship the tickets sooner. And 3. Because questions about ticket restrictions ought to be front and center, instead of in the FAQ’S).
You’re Harvey, aren’t you?
Honestly, buttonjockey, how would you have felt if you were the buyer, and you got the two tickets that said “limited view” after the posting said nothing about it? Disappointed? Cheated? Maybe felt as if the seller owed it to you to disclose this information? I know if I was the buyer, I would have been pissed, and would be seeking any legal way to send those tickets straight back to you.
[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]
Honestly, buttonjockey, how would you have felt if you were the buyer, and you got the two tickets that said “limited view” after the posting said nothing about it? Disappointed? Cheated? Maybe felt as if the seller owed it to you to disclose this information? I know if I was the buyer, I would have been pissed, and would be seeking any legal way to send those tickets straight back to you.
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If I were an honest-to-god buyer rather than a scalper, I’d take a look at the floorplan to see if it were an actual obstructed view, and if it weren’t, I’d feel like I was in the wrong if I tried to weasel out of the deal because I didn’t want to go to the game due to not crossing all the t’s (then again I might just do that anyway :))
It’d be a different story if there were actually an obsctructed view. If there’s not, all three parties have some blame here. (In addition, places that don’t sell tickets for what they’re really worth and thus create a market for scalpers are also to blame, but in this situation you can’t really predict how well a team’s gonna do late in the season, so it’s more understandable.)
[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]
Honestly, buttonjockey, how would you have felt if you were the buyer, and you got the two tickets that said “limited view” after the posting said nothing about it? Disappointed? Cheated? Maybe felt as if the seller owed it to you to disclose this information? I know if I was the buyer, I would have been pissed, and would be seeking any legal way to send those tickets straight back to you.
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Well OneCentStamp Like I said earlier, I just want in to the park, I’ll make my own way after that. If my seats are slightly obstructed (of which there are VERY few in Wrigley, I sit in the 200 section at least 5-10 times a year, and in the bleachers the rest) I’ll hang out where I can see until I find a seat that’s both unused and unobstructed, and plop it there for an inning or two. This game, where every seat was sold, even had some empties that would have sufficed.
See, unlike a lot of people, I consider myself lucky just to be able to BE there. To have the time and the means to spend an afternoon in one of the last of the great ballparks in America, to watch a team I love, whether they win or lose, is just an awesome experience to me, and I’m happy just to be able to see it.
I’m not a huge believer in fine print, frankly. Even when it works in my favor, I’m uneasy about it.
[QUOTE=Ludovic]
I’d feel like I was in the wrong if I tried to weasel out of the deal because I didn’t want to go to the game due to not crossing all the t’s (then again I might just do that anyway :))
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I guess this is where we differ. I would consider failure to disclose an obstructed view, even if it’s minor, more than a matter of crossing the Ts. 
(emphasis mine)
I think you’ve nailed it on the head right there. A lot of people might receive the tickets, think you were trying to pull a fast one on them (FTR, I don’t think you were), and want their money back.
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]
You called me a jackass, how is that not directed at me you fucking moron?
I don’t think I have the high ground, I think I didn’t read every little scrap of info SH put out regarding the selling of tickets, and that I fucked up (though I’m not letting SH off the hook completely, because 1. They lied like rugs about the messages they left. 2. Because I couldn’t ship the tickets sooner. And 3. Because questions about ticket restrictions ought to be front and center, instead of in the FAQ’S).
You’re Harvey, aren’t you?
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It would appear that you have some reading comprehension problems, too. My post was a little play, and the “jackass” did not refer to you. Plus, FAQ usually means “Frequently Asked Questions”, so questions about ticket restrictions might logically be in that section.
In any case, Stubhub is not without guilt. They could easily comply the information as to what seats are sold as obstructed or limited view in most venue. They don’t. Despite that, you ain’t got a leg to stand on. Oh well, good luck with rest of the playoffs
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]
Well OneCentStamp Like I said earlier, I just want in to the park, I’ll make my own way after that. If my seats are slightly obstructed (of which there are VERY few in Wrigley, I sit in the 200 section at least 5-10 times a year, and in the bleachers the rest) I’ll hang out where I can see until I find a seat that’s both unused and unobstructed, and plop it there for an inning or two. This game, where every seat was sold, even had some empties that would have sufficed.
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What will it take to get it through your self-centered cranium that failure to disclose an obstructed view on a playoff baseball ticket is a big fucking deal?
Right now, at this very moment, there are obstructed view seats in the lower deck at Fenway for Game 1 of the ALCS available for $371. The cheapest non-obstructed lower-deck seats are $530. That’s a huge fucking difference.
I’m glad you live in Happy Land where you buy a ticket to a sold-out game and don’t actually sit in your seat. Most of us don’t like to do that. If we come to the game with another person, we don’t want to scatter looking for empty seats. We don’t want to hassle other people asking “Is this seat taken?”, and risk getting kicked out by ushers. And we damn sure don’t want to stand around in the aisles, blocking traffic and getting dirty looks, after we paid a premium price on e-bay for a ticket that’s supposed to entitle us to a seat with a view of the game.
Kudos to Harvey for calling you on this bullshit.
[QUOTE=Freddy the Pig]
What will it take to get it through your self-centered cranium that failure to disclose an obstructed view on a playoff baseball ticket is a big fucking deal?
Right now, at this very moment, there are obstructed view seats in the lower deck at Fenway for Game 1 of the ALCS available for $371. The cheapest non-obstructed lower-deck seats are $530. That’s a huge fucking difference.
I’m glad you live in Happy Land where you buy a ticket to a sold-out game and don’t actually sit in your seat. Most of us don’t like to do that. If we come to the game with another person, we don’t want to scatter looking for empty seats. We don’t want to hassle other people asking “Is this seat taken?”, and risk getting kicked out by ushers. And we damn sure don’t want to stand around in the aisles, blocking traffic and getting dirty looks, after we paid a premium price on e-bay for a ticket that’s supposed to entitle us to a seat with a view of the game.
Kudos to Harvey for calling you on this bullshit.
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Listen, I didn’t intend to defraud anyone as you imply, I didn’t read the FAQ’s because it didn’t seem I needed to, and with regard to the rest of it, I was speaking for myself. I pride myself on generally being transparent when it comes to public interaction, I don’t hassle anyone, I don’t stand in peoples way, and I don’t presume anything. I learned a lesson from this exchange, but as for you, you festering cunt, you can take Harvey, your post, your seat, your kudos and the jack to your car and stuff it all up your felch-tube stretched asshole, you douchebag motherfucker. I’m done taking shit in this thread.
Mods, close it please.
Boy, for a Cubs fan you sure have thin skin.
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]
. I learned a lesson from this exchange, but as for you, you festering cunt, you can take Harvey, your post, your seat, your kudos and the jack to your car and stuff it all up your felch-tube stretched asshole, you douchebag motherfucker. I’m done taking shit in this thread.
Mods, close it please.
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Wow, I was about to say sorry for thinking you were the kinda douche I suggested you were in my last post. then I read your posts from today.
Dude, you really are a dick. You can be good at hiding it, but DAMN, did it show through here…
[QUOTE=Garfield226]
Boy, for a Cubs fan you sure have thin skin.
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It’s hard to say which was the better Cub-related snit fit–this thread, or Ted Lilly slamming his glove.