Mr. Rilch has less esteem for me than I do!

Mr. Rilch and I have been together for eight years now. He’s always known that I am a very insecure person who wavers between cringing and blustering. I’ve gotten better in those eight years, of course, and I haven’t stopped trying. But lately, it seems like he hears me put myself down when I’m actually trying to reassure myself, and by extension him.

Example: I currently have a crap job doing phone surveys*. I thought I was doing okay the first few days, but today, my supervisors suddenly started berating me. Five times, to be exact. I wasn’t doing this and I wasn’t doing that—stuff that they hadn’t told me to do! The female co-owner is a cooze, talking down to me as if I’m a kindergartner, and using a tone that implies she’s just at the end of her rope with me. The male co-owner looks and acts like the Giant, from Twin Peaks. He criticized me yesterday for walking too loudly. He, on the other hand, translocates silently, always going from one room to the other without attracting attention—until he appears at your elbow, saying, “You should have done [whatever],” in a perfect Carel Struyken impression. He also told me that I don’t get paid for my 15-minute breaks (in an 8-hour day). I think that’s illegal in CA. I’ll find out.

Well, I know that people who hire temps for jobs like this aren’t looking to create a warm, friendly atmosphere, and I also know that I should be proud just to be able to work the phones, when a few years ago, I would never have been able to talk to strangers all day, even with a script. So I ended by saying, “Well, life isn’t fair: if they fire me they fire me—” and before I could add, “I’m not going to turn myself inside out to be the kind of person who’s superfantastic at doing phone surveys,” he blew up and started yelling that he was tired of me getting down on myself, and I had to have a job and bring some money in here, and if I spazzed my way out of this job he was gonna, and, best of all, LIFE ISN’T FAIR! Which is what I’d said! But of course, when he says LIF, he’s giving a pep talk, and when I say it, I’m having a pity party. I’m not! I’m just accepting the fact that life isn’t fair!

Ohmygod, though…I can’t tell you how many times, and how badly, I’ve wanted to bite myself today, at work and at home. But I didn’t. So what does that say about me.

Whew. I did need to vent about work. I’ll let y’all know tomorrow if I do get fired. See, the only real reason it would bother me is that it’s my first gig with this particular temp agency, and I want to make a good impression.

Anyway, after things had calmed down, we were looking at this issue of Gourmet that was all Italian recipes. He was pointing out some pasta stuff he wants to make, and some desserts he’d like me to do. I was perusing the recipes to see what I’d need to do, and I noticed that the cookies called for me to grease tin foil (to put the walnuts on so I could roll the dough in them). I mused aloud, “Greased foil…”

“What’s that?”

“Oh, it says here that I have to grease the tinfoil…I’ll have to be careful, because I know how easily tinfoil rips.”

Oh, for god’s sake Sandy if you don’t want to do it just say so for crissake nothing’s easy just do what you have to do don’t whine about it you should know what you’re doing by now…

When the noise subsided, I went on to say, “I was just making a note of the fact that I’ll have to soften the butter a little and spread it slowly. I didn’t say that the editors of Gourmet were out to get me.” So I headed that one off at the pass, but my nerves are still jangling.

I don’t know what I should do. Apparently, I shouldn’t have told him about my work problem, but discussing cookie recipes? :confused: :mad: I’m finally able to be cut-and-dried about my situation…but he still hears complaining. :frowning:

*The funny thing is, the callees don’t bother me at all. This isn’t telemarketing at all. We call people at their place of business, where they accept having to field calls from people they’d rather not hear from, and the script is practically designed not to make people feel cornered, and doesn’t provide them with straight lines. Most people just say, “No, I don’t have time,” and the questions are few and simple enough that I’m not stealing the time of the ones who do answer. Best time is between 4 and 5 local time, because busy people don’t even take their calls then, and the ones who are just sitting there playing Minesweeper are overjoyed to talk to someone.

Rilch,

I’m not one to give advice, or even to comment on these type of threads. I’m not very good at domestic issues, and have two marriages to prove it. Best I would say to do is to take a breather, and explain to Mr. Rilch the situation, and try again tomorrow (assuming you don’t get fired, let’s hope not).

Finally, I must ask… what the hell is a “cooze”?

Sir

You might also approach the temp company about the situation and perhaps another position even before it does start to be too much of a drag.

I’d ask the temp agency about the “unpaid” breaks as well - they should be totally up on that - typically the lunch period is unpaid and breaks are paid. The temp agency should be kept aware of an employer that may not be adhering to labor laws. I would also mention the “walking too loud” feedback as well as any other bizarre criticism that they might offer. Hang in there.

My understanding is that it’s a grosser, but marginally more acceptable usage of the word “Cunt”. At least that’s how I heard it used* in my younger, more foul-mouthed days
Rilch: The Mr.'s behavior sounds…weird. I mean literally “weird”. “Walking too loudly?”, odd verbal blow-ups? I assume this isn’t normal behavior for him, insecure or not? I don’t have any suggestions, but I wanted to reassure you that it doesn’t sound like you’ve done anything wrong.

Fenris

*Note clever use of plausible deniability. I admitted to nothing, therefore, someday when I’m asked to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (IANAL), my political enemies won’t be able to use this post against me in their efforts to destroy me.

I may have misread the OP, but I think the walking too loudly thing was attributed to the male co-owner of the place where Rilch works, not her SO (if that’s what you meant the “The Mr.s”).

:eek: Eep. You’re right. I’ve proven that I shouldn’t post before coffee. I thought her husband was saying she was walking too loudly. Duh. Sorry.

Fenris

I shouldn’t read/post during coffee - the stained state of my keyboard and screen proves it. Prior to finding the SDMB I was completely unaware of how coffee feels coming down my nose. Now it’s a fairly common occurrence.

[/hijack off]

Rilch; I was going to say more in my previous post. I didn’t, but I’ll chip in now:

My SO is normally pretty upbeat about life, the universe and everything, but occasionally gets self-esteem issues (completely unjustified, imo). Most times, we’ll talk about it and it’ll pass. Now, because I’m not such a good person as her, occasionally I’ll get a bit testy (I know, I know). The reason is that I really can’t see what the problem is; I’m looking in from the outside as an involved observer and the issues she’s talking about don’t exist.

Now, I know they exist for her. Problem is, I don’t like seeing her upset and there’s nothing I can say to fix her perception. I’m a man. Apparently we like to fix things. Ironically the more I care about her the more I don’t like her upset, the more I’ll try to persuade her that xyz isn’t reality etc. We end up going in circles.

Not sure if any of this is relevant, but you’re welcome to it…

I’m not a marriage counselor, but I do have a suggestion for you. I would sit down at a VERY calm time and talk this out with Mr. R.
Let him know that you understand and appreciate how patient he has been while you’ve worked on your insecurities, and list the ways you feel you’ve improved.
Also let him know that you have no intention of leaving him out in the lurch financially by getting fired intentionally from this temp job. (Maybe he’s feeling a lot of financial pressure and is unintentionally taking it out on you?)

Finally, let him know that you love him and hope you can continue counting on his support while you continue to improve/change the parts of your personality you are working on.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to vent to your husband, but if you’ve had problems in the past with harping on issues or poor self esteem, he may have a great deal of difficulty telling the difference between “discussing” and “complaining”.

my 2 cents,
Zette

Maybe Mr. R was just having a bad day, too? It could have been that something happened at work that annoyed him, so every little thing was setting him off. I do that sometimes and so does my husband.

Maybe if he’s getting testier than is warranted, tease him a little and make him laugh or give him a hug and ask him if he’s had a bad day. His behavior might be reflecting more on his current problems than it is on you.

Or you could just ignore him and see if he’s in a better mood tomorrow.

Unless you are slamming your feet down as an attempt to make a lot of noise I doubt the volume of your walking is out of line. If your boss is troubled by the noise people generate by walking he may be crazy. If your boss is a “crazy walking noise fanatic” how is that your fault?

When the lady that uses kindergarten talk with you starts up try looking at it this way.

SHE is talking that way not you…

She is the one doing it…

If I were you and thought she was doing it as a dig I would give her some back, I’d smile and give her a tone that I would use with a 4 year old and say “Oooh you have pretty hair” or “do you have a kitty?” I bet she gets the point.

Same thing with Mr. If he gets upset over matters of tin foil greasing just ask him “why are you so upset about this tin foil?” “Are you mad at me because I have to be careful with it?”
That’s my unprofessional opinion.

My advice on the temp job:
I’ve been a temp for five years, and no matter what the labour laws say regarding breaks, temps don’t actually get coffee breaks unless the management lets them. And the agency will not back you up on this. It’s not right, but it’s the way temping works. My advice (and I do this at every job I go to) is to drink tons of water so you can at least take bathroom breaks.

The company you are currently working at sounds pretty sucky; a lot of employers treat temps like dirt, but there are so many temp jobs available that you shouldn’t need to stay at a job where they are treating you badly. I would suggest talking with your agency about this right away. If the company calls your agency and complains about you, it will look much better to the agency if you have already told them that this job is not working out as well as you’d hoped (and be very tactful when complaining about them).

My final word of advice on temping – get registered with more than one agency. I’m usually registered with two or three at a time. Don’t make the mistake of feeling any loyalty to one particular agency. They feel none for you; you are a money-making piece of office equipment to them. Also, try to get a permanent job. Temping is very hard on your self-esteem (being treated as a disposable employee does that to you), and if this has already been an issue for you, temping isn’t going to help in the long term.

I hope this helps somewhat. Please e-mail me if you want to discuss any more temping issues.

My advice on your husband:
Maybe you could use that Monty Python thing when talking with your husband; you know, the thing where the guy does the big sweepy thing with his hand before talking so the other guy knows what he is intending. You could do the big sweepy thing before complaining so he knows that the rest of the time you’re not complaining :smiley:

Thanks all!

There was a meeting of all the staff and temps this morning. Not a confrontation, just a recap of how we’re supposed to perform the job. Apparently, I wasn’t the only one dissatisfied with the fact that “instructions” were given by way of someone walking by and mumbling. So now we know what to do, and everyone’s numbers went up appreciably. Whew! And no one talked down to me or ghosted up on me, either.

Sir Rhosis, the definition of “cooze” given by Fenris is perfectly accurate.

I did ask the agency about the paid breaks. I called them again when I left work, and they said they checked with the legal department. We are supposed to get paid, and they spoke to the owners, and apparently it’s been resolved. There are seven other temps with me, so I guess I’ve done my good deed for the week.

featherlou, I don’t usually expect to get coffee breaks; I’m okay as long as no one tries to hijack my lunch hour. The thing is, the breaks are mandatory, and I wouldn’t turn them down anyway, because we need to get up and away from those phones every two hours! I just didn’t like the idea of losing half an hour’s pay because They Said So. It seemed like a scheme to keep us from getting 40-hour weeks.

Also, I am registered with other temp agencies…and when I got home, I got a message from one about an offer for a three-month gig. We shall see.

And yes, I was also CMA by contacting the agency before the owners could. As I said, if I got booted out of the first job they got me, that would be the end of it, and I don’t want that.

As far as Mr. Rilch, he has tomorrow off, so we’re going to talk about this again. One of the things he said last night was that he was sick of the egg-timer routine. But judging by last night, it’s inarguable that there has to be a time limit on his go-offs!

What sweepy thing? I don’t think I saw that sketch.

Glad to hear you’re looking out for yourself careerwise. I’ve met too many temps new to the profession that have some unrealistic ideas about temping. (I’m also glad to hear some of the wrinkles are getting worked out - nothing like a stressful job to make your day really suck.)

My fiancé knows what I’m talking about with the Monty Python sketch - he is currently looking it up in his MP index book (yes, it’s true, he’s as big a geek as I am :smiley: ). Have to get back to you on that one.