I think we have to judge people by what they write, not qualifications we have no way of judging. Not to specifically doubt you, but you could link to any site, as could I, and claim association with its authority. So I think it’s a losing proposition n to ask someone else for qualifications.
Sailboat
OK, so I cannot make generalizations (tho I don’t think I’ve made any at all) and I cannot respond in detail? What is left? As for posting one after the other, I generally only have time to come in here late in the day.
Sheesh.
Kathy
Shrug. I tend to believe what people write unless proven otherwise. OTOH, it has been pretty clear which folks here understand dogs and training and which don’t. The only reason I offered to link to my site was to cut down on what I had to post - since apparently going into detail here upsets at least one poster…
Kathy
Everything you do will upset at least one poster.
That is, if you do it right. 
Regards,
Shodan
That I am used to. A majority of people thinking with their emotions rather than their brains - not so much.
Kathy
I see your back. HELL YEAH! Gotcha right where I wantcha!
Glad you came back. There’s always something to argue about around here.
Right, I get it. You are used to seeing yourself as the logical one in any given group. That doesn’t mean you will always be the logical one here. You seem pretty strident, and downright emotional to me in your posts in this topic, for example. :dubious:
Thank you I haven’t actually left yet since this thread is still active…
Kathy
Then you are reading your bias into my posts. It is extremely rare for me to get emotional WRT strangers in real life, much less on an internet board. And, one clue that I am rather more logic and less emotional than at least several folks here is that it seems that no matter what I say, the emotional ones have to jump to some negative conclusion and make some snotty comment.
Kathy
No, you admit that you shout a lot. That’s emotion, not logic. You, yourself are ruled heavily by emotion, and you admitted this, however inadvertantly. And believe me, when I decide to be snotty and cut you, you’ll know it. ETA: It’s the fact that you are holding yourself above others that you percieve to be “emotional” when you yourself are that mildly annoys me. I don’t like even mild hypocrisy. It is very much a “Do as I say, not as I do” attitude you are showing us, from what I have seen here.
This is what I mean when I say you are reading bias into my posts. Perhaps every time you raise your voice it involves emotion, but that doesn’t mean it applies to everyone else on the planet. As in my examples in other posts, there are times I shout simply because the dog (or husband) is not near enough to me to hear a speaking voice. Other times I shout to be heard over noisy playing dogs. The whole reason I even mentioned that I shout, which apparently whoosed right over your head, is to make the point that a raised voice is not necessarily used to try to abuse a dog. A raised voice doesn’t have to mean emotion, much less a negative one.
When did I say that?
Uh huh. I shiver.
Piffle. Simply because you want to read something into what I have written doesn’t mean it is there.
Kathy
That’s why you posted this early on?
Sure. Right… :dubious:
That is the sum total of your proof that my posts are emotional? :rolleyes:
Kathy
That, and the attitude you display above. Eye-rolling is emotional too, not logical. Whether you want to admit it or not, you let feelings rule you more often than you would like. I msyelf, am ok with being silly sometimes, with being joyful, with the fact that I have wept in my lifetime, and will weep again. I can also be logical, pragmatic, and I am intelligent enough to realize I don’t have to reject emotion to live a productive, “smart” life. How about you?
OK, I’ll pretend you are that obtuse and think that I have been claiming to live without emotions. Which I haven’t. What I said was that there were too many posters here that were thinking with their emotions rather than their brains. A desire to have a conversation with a mature adult that doesn’t act like a four year old is not the same thing as saying I am completely without emotion. I doubt such a human being exists.
Kathy
That is what you are seeing. Probably it is more in the middle than you think. They are seeing through the lens of their own experience, and the memories of that (and what they think/feel about it) are coloring their posts. I think, that you are going to see what you look for here. I just found it somewhat annoying, that you were tossing such an observation around, about how “many” here are ruled by their emotions, instead of logic, when you yourself are rather emotional.
Compared to the emotional exaggerations of some of the posts on this subject, particularly on the first page, I am a rock. I rather doubt that any of the folks that think that the OP should sic the authorities on her neighbor are seeing thru the lens of any experience/memories with the subject, yet they think anything and everything should be done to make sure that the possibility that a dog is being abused is stopped no matter what the cost to the innocent. That is an emotional response, particularly since the OP has yet to post any actual abuse.
And now, I’m off to bed so I will not see the next installment of your armchair psychoanalysis of my emotional state until tomorrow. Good night!
Kathy
I’m stunned by that trumpeting! :dubious: ETA: FTR, I think the OP took the right course of action. You can tell when the person is raising their voice merely to be heard, and when it is a voice raised in anger, even through a closed door. And a cowed dog is also apparent.
A good tactic, IMO is to imagine reducing whatever someone says online by at least half, if not more. I suspect that would lead to a clearer picture of their opinion of it. For some reason, people on the internet like to swing to emotional extremes.
Re: Abuse, I think it is a good thing to err on the cautious side when it comes to abuse. False positives are no fun, I admit but it would really suck if there was an actual case of abuse that was missed because people weren’t sure about whether it qualified as abuse or not.
(And if it’s necessary to yell or shout in order to be heard, the classy thing to do is move closer to the object of attention. Especially inside a house, sheesh.)
Addressing an animal or child in a firm tone is abusive.
My mother was a lion tamer and crocodile wrestler, and she controlled all those animals plus my ten rambunctious brothers just by raising her eyebrow at us.