My girlfriend still lives with her ex...

There are issues here that you cannot control. There are also some big fat red flags for you; don’t ignore them.

If she fears the ex, they have an abusive relationship. You can find out where the local sources are for domestic violence help, but you cannot make her go. If she’s afraid of a new commitment with you, there’s not much you can do about that. You can wait for her to commit, or you can leave her alone.

Now, the flags. :eek: If she’s in an abusive relationship, it might be a pattern with her. If so, and you’re not that kinda guy, you may not offer enough chaos to satisfy that part of her psyche. Until she gets it together, she might not ever be happy with you or any decent man.

She’s living with one man and seriously fooling around with another now. How’s it going to be when you’re the guy she’s living with?

Most definitely the first option. She is scared and been hurt in the past so an aggressive front from me has an ill effect on her. I feel like I need to support her because we both have so much riding on this relationship.

I have 3 kids. She has none. Nuff said methinks.

If you’re coming out of a bad marriage, you owe it to yourself, and to anyone you might want to hook up with in the future, to learn how to live alone for a while. Any relationship that begins within a year of a major previous relationship ending is doomed to failure.

Blind faith in love. I would rather charge headlong into disaster than stand by and be run over by contempt. If I can’t trust the word of a woman I love than I deserve to be played but in reality she isn’t that kind of person. I have been around the block before, been played like a two-bit fiddle but I don’t see that in her. She is too pure of heart.

Ouch! :frowning:

That is my fear…that of the unknown truth. I can only have faith and pray.

Well, then, your solution is obvious. First, you go to a jeweller and buy a nice ring…

I wonder where I can learn that? Do you think they offer courses on the internet? :smiley:

I hope I am wrong nuke8, but it seems that you are going to get hosed in this relationship bro.

Sounds like this is a setting sun… :frowning:

I didn’t mean to post that yet.

It really seems like you are needing the idea of her, not needing her as she is. I learned that if there is a void in your life, trying to find/keep someone to fill it up never works out. You have to fill your own voids.

[Pink Floyd]

Was it love, or was it the idea of being in love?

[/Pink Floyd]

[QUOTE=Translucent Daydream]
Was it love, or was it the idea of being in love?
What is the difference? How do you know?

So why hasn’t she told the fellow that she is living with that she is seeing you? Why hasn’t she moved out yet?

You don’t! That is what makes it such a pain in the ass!

But seriously, you can tell if you really think/talk to someone (maybe professional) if you are trying to fill some void instead. I know becuase it happened to me.

It sucks really really bad when I finally had to come to terms that the lady wouldn’t meet me in the middle, which for you I would suppose is for her to move out of her hopefully-real-ex’s pad.

If she won’t…

If she is as serious about you as you are about her, she should be able to do SOMETHING.

And if she was/is being abused, it isn’t your job to come in and fix everything. I used to try to do that too. I would put on the SuperDan cape and try to fix everyone. Abusing someone is learned behavior. Being repeatedly abused is learned as well.

You can’t make the right decisions for people unfortunately. You already have three children, right? You don’t need to have a fourth. Maybe it is time for her to pony up?

You are the only one that knows the rumblings in your heart, but I would stress to you like I would one of my running buddies here in North Texas:

Make sure you aren’t using the idea of her to fill some absence in your life. Absences in your life are always caused by you, so other people can’t fix them and they will always remain.
The best of luck to you, I really hope this works out exactly how you want it to. It never did for me.

Fear of the unknown. Here check out my LJ post for my perspective on this puzzling affliction.

Fear

You learn to live alone by living alone.

Aptly put my friend. I must confess I was skeptical about airing dirty laundry to the world but herein lies some useful dope for sure! :slight_smile:

Man, you are setting yourself up for some serious heartbreak.
The fact that her ex doesn’t even know that you exist should be sounding bells and whisltes in your head.
Take this advice:

Fear of the unknown is not a good reason for living with someone whom you don’t love, especially when you are in a relationship with someone else.

Do you love her or the idea of her? What is the longest time, you have spent not in a relationship?

Some serious question you have to ask yourself:

–Is she still romantically involved with her “ex”? As in, is she sleeping with both of you? If no, are you SURE? If yes, this is not a safe situation for you, health-wise or emotionally. Run.

–Why can’t she afford her own place? Doesn’t she work? If not, who’s going to pay the bills when she moves out? If he’s paying for everything right now, this could be a big motivating factor in why she’s staying with him.

–What makes you think she’s in an abusive relationship with her ex? If he’s just a “domesticated pussy cat” who ignores her, then why is she so scared of him? Something’s not jibing here. Is it possible that she’s telling you she’s scared of him to justify not moving out?

–Don’t kid yourself about purity of heart. Living with a man who doesn’t know that she’s seeing another man is, by definition, in complete opposition to the concept of purity of heart. Think about it for a second. Not really kosher, and you wouldn’t like it if it was done to you. You don’t have to like her ex, but it would be nice to treat him as you’d like to be treated if the roles were reversed.

I hate to say this, but I think you’re in for some heart break, man. I could be wrong, and I often am, but there are too many red flags here. Try living alone for a while. It’s quite good for you, once you get past the fear.