My mother the bigot

My stepdad was a racist. He hated all white people, which was really odd cause his mother was white (well jewish anyway, but looked white to me). I remember him picking me up from school when I was around 8 or so. He pulled into a gas station ans sat waiting while other custoemrs pulled in and out. This was in the early 70s, a self serve pupmshad just started coming to the motor city.

He didn’t realize we were sitting in the only self serve island. He yelling how all these this and thats are being racist for not helping him. When another black guy came over and pointed out to him where we were, he just went on cursing. I was trying my hardest to become invisible.

I have brothers that are homophobic and racist too. I don’t spend a whole lot of time around my family anymore.

My parents were (are?) racists of the “oh but <insert name here> is an exception” school. You know, blacks are lazy, stupid criminals except for my friends, whom they just loved. I was told that if I hung out with my black female friends I would wind up marrying a black guy. Well, I wound up engaged to a black man :slight_smile: but I married a Jew.

I’m not sure if they are still racist, although I have heard them both say some intolerant things. Their daughters are really making it difficult for them–one of my sisters married a Puerto Rican and now lives in PR and my other sister married a Hawaiian/Filipino.

When I got married, I had a non-traditional wedding with lots of prayers in Hebrew. My mom was convinced that my dad would make nasty comments (they’re divorced) because he doesn’t like Jews. My mom is Jewish and he doesn’t like Jews and he married her. Weird family.

My maternal grandmother really liked my paternal grandfather, even though he was from Germany and she hated Germans. I gave her that one–she lost family in the Holocaust and I wasn’t about to lecture an Eastern-Eurpean Jew who hated Germans about tolerance. But she had a lot of intolerant attitudes about blacks, hispanics, name another minority here. But I loved her anyway.

First I must say that I was in a decent mood until I read this thread. It causes a pain in my soul to know that there is still so much hatred in this world. My guess is that if you confront a biggot and ask why they hate any group, they will most likely spout stereotypes that are decades, if not centuries old.

There is somethings in this thread that make me feel a little better. Since hate is usually learned from the parents, it is nice to see that some posters have broken that chain.

Needs2know, I am glad that you took time to be with your daughter and point out that your own mother has this one serious flaw. For what it is worth, you seem to doing the right thing with your kids.

My family isn’t racist, exactly; we’ve got a pretty diverse racial background. My father’s father is half Cherokee, my father’s mother is Mexican. On my mother’s side, they’re pretty white-bread, but my uncle married a Vietnamese woman, so we’ve got a whole branch of Asian descent. I remember when I was very young, and unthinkingly used the “N-word,” my mother firmly corrected me.

There are, however, two places where what she said didn’t match with her behavior, and I notice its effect in my own worldview.

First, although my mom verbally expresses racial views that are firmly in the progressive mainstream, neither she nor anyone in my family actually has any black friends. She certainly meant well in what she tried to teach me, but there were never any African-Americans around, whether it was from her job, or my school (the Pacific Northwest is fairly white, and the smaller town I grew up in is more so), or her social circle (she’s a square dancer; if there’s a whiter activity I don’t know what it is). It’s the old “do as I say, not as I do” thing; she was saying the right words, but wasn’t fully backing them up.

Second, she could be casually patronizing about other minorities. Back when I was in my early teens, she spent a fair amount of time going clubbing, i.e. drinking and dancing and socializing and basically trying to have a “normal” life after she divorced my father. I have a clear memory of one conversation, where she was talking about how much fun she was having; she described going to one place (Lee’s, now long closed), sitting in a corner booth, and watching “the gay guys” kissing each other. I was thrown for a loop: The way she talked, it was like she was going to the zoo or something. I called her on it, too, because it rubbed me wrong. Being a dumb kid, I probably wasn’t very clear; I couldn’t express why her description seemed off to me. She got defensive, and I dropped it, and that was the end of it. The topic has never come up again.

Put these two together, and you get a subtle “they” and “them” attitude that subconsciously undercut all the well-meaning lessons she had attempted to impart. Although on the surface she was trying to teach me what she knew was right, there was still, deep down, a separatist lifestyle that I picked up on. When I moved to Seattle, I noticed some race-based judgements creeping into my own world, primarily because my upbringing had never given me any alternatives, and I had to work really hard to identify them and root them out. Even now, if I’m walking downtown late at night, and a couple of young black urban-outfitted guys turn the corner a ways off and come walking toward me, I still get an instantaneous flash of “uh-oh, them” before I’m able to grab a hold of the feeling and toss it away. It embarrasses me to admit it, as much to myself as on the board, but I have to be totally honest if I want any hope of positive evolution.

I knew I had made progress when someone a couple of years ago challenged me on this, and asked me if I had any minority friends. I blinked, and said, in all honesty, “I don’t know.” After I thought about it, I recalled that a good friend in my college graduating class, with whom I still exchange e-mail occasionally (he’s moved away from Seattle), is black, and my best friend in Seattle, my regular moviegoing companion, is a black Puerto Rican. I felt justifiably pleased with myself at not having remembered them as being black right away, because it meant I’d made progress from the unfortunate place where I had started. Then I remembered that I myself am a quarter Hispanic and an eighth Cherokee, and I realized I should have answered, “Yeah, I know a minority – me.” Then I felt stupid for getting trapped into a stupid line of conversation, and not realizing it.

I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this, and although I would hardly claim to be perfect, I do know this – When I get to raise kids of my own, the lesson will be very simple: "There is no them."

My mother is terribly homophobic. She is voting for Bush for chrissakes <retch> anyway, when i was 16 i had a friend, a guy, who was gay whom i loved very dearly. well, she found out about him, and went off, in a restaurant, about how she didn’t want me hanging out with any (insert long list of stereotypes and disparaging remarks here). when i stood up for him, she kicked me out of the house. she eventually let me back in, and we still occassionally talk about gay rights without any hurt feelings, but i mostly avoid mentioning any gay friends (i really love the look on her face though). the funny thing is that she chose a lesbian for my godmother. ?

There was a girl I worked with who was Jewish, but her mom was CAtholic…technically.
Her father was Jewish. Her mother’s mother was originally Jewish, but married a CAtholic man and converted. Their children were raised Catholic, and my friend’s mom married a Jewish man.
They celebrated BOTH the Jewish and Christian holidays. And they’re the nicest people. It’s very interesting to see, that cultures and religion CAN blend.

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*Originally posted by stuffinb *
**My stepdad was a racist. He hated all white people, which was really odd cause his mother was white (well jewish anyway, but looked white to me).
um…Judaism is a religion, not a race.

I’ve thought long and hard about posting this because I’m a little worried about what’s going to come back to me, but here goes…

I grew up in a small, very white town in central Minnesota. The year I graduated high school an African-American family moved into our school district, the first and, as far as I know, only. That was the second time I had ever interacted with blacks.

The first time requires a little background.

While growing up I do not recall anyone in my family being overtly racist. I do recall a few racist jokes and the “N” word spoken once or twice during TV sporting events; most of the time my mother put a stop to it if we kids were around.

When I was about 16, shortly after my gramma became housebound and could no longer make it to church, a couple from her church came to visit. They happened to be black, at that time the only blacks I had ever met. I had spent that afternoon at the farm, like I usually did. My father came up to start chores and, seeing an unfamiliar car in the yard, came in the house to see who was there. He took a few steps into the house, saw that couple, and turned around and left without a word. Gramma was obviously embarrassed, and so I was, as well. That night after milking I asked Mom what the hell that was all about.

In 1969 - about 25 years earlier - my father took a bus trip from Jacksonville, FL home to Minnesota, with a stop in Chicago. The only thing he’s ever said about that trip is that from Jax to Chi he was the only white boy on the bus.

A good excuse? Probably not, but a reason, and perhaps even a valid one.

FWIW, I later joined the Navy, went to bootcamp, have been stationed in places where minorities are the majority, have been to some colleges, had non-white co-workers and friends and drinking buddies and sleeping partners and roommates and …etc etc etc.

The only conclusion I’ve come to is that ANYONE who is too much of anything (too Repulican, too Liberal, too religious, too hard-core drinking, too nutty about animal rights, too racist) drives me up the wall.

Actualy there is, unfortunately, an enormous amount of truth in this generalization.