My son doesn't start school until Monday and I already hate a parent

Buy your kid lots of cool t-shirts with dinosaurs on them. Little boys cannot resist the allure of dinosaurs, so if hate-him-dad is the father of a son, you can be sure he’ll soon be fielding all sorts of questions about Our Friends, the Jesus Horses.

Plus, you know, your kid gets to wear dinosaur shirts, so it’s all sort of win-win.

I’m not crazy about using my son as a tool to do my work for me, but damn, dinosaurs ARE cool, that’s a great idea!

Hell, I’ll get him a bunch of t-shirts that just say ‘millions of years ago’ and nothing else to make this father go nutty :stuck_out_tongue:

How about this one:

http://www.esalenctr.org/display/photogallery/0309_PolettiEvolutionTshirt.jpg

No more than going home every day and drilling into your child’s head that the Earth is spherical(ish), most Americans speak English, and three times eight is twenty-four.

Those are all facts, and requiring that a child learn, comprehend, and be able to explain them is not indoctrination. It’s education. If the child questions the validity of these facts, that validity can be demonstrated to them. The background material that supports those facts can be researched and investigated. Knowledgeable experts can be consulted.

Once the basis of the Scientific Method is understood, the results of several centuries of experimentation and investigation can be trusted. Biology, chemistry, physics, and geology all support the evidence in favor of a Theory of Evolution. It has withstood all reasonable arguments, so the only thing anti-science zealots have are unreasonable arguments riddled with logical errors.

And BTW Tommy Tutone, I’m so sorry your child’s teacher got stuck with that idiot. Perhaps you could but her some pro-science posters to put up in her classroom, or find some children’s books with topics that would expose all the children to knowledge.

And then, maybe buy her a fifth of her favorite adult poison, for those days when she has to deal with the idiot.

It would likely not be interpreted as sarcasm. Some of the most vocal anti-evolutionists are also geocentrists, which is just one of those hairs away from being a flat-earther.

Dear **TommyTutone **

Have you considered writing his name on the bathroom wall?

Here’s a nice selection of in-your-face T-shirts.

If you don’t want your kid wearing one, there are larger sizes for you to wear at parent-teacher conferences.

teach your kid++

Donate some evolution posters or something to the teacher.

And get involved in the process this idiot is using, make your voice heard.

Isn’t a sphere earth more an infinite sided view?

Thank you. Additionally, Tommy is dealing with a pre-k child. When his classmate starts spouting creationist crap, you want your child armed, as well as a pre-K can be armed, not to believe it.

Diomedes, if your query was more along the lines the Evolution and Creationism (or whatever it is currently called) in any way, shape, or form deserve equal billing, then go start a thread in GD and be prepared for an ass-whuppin’. I won’t be there, as I refuse to lose any of my precious few brain cells debating such inanity.

Incompetent Design. Just like the way that pistachios are clearly designed to pop out and bounce around the floor when I’m prying their shells open. God hates us all and wants to make our existance on Earth as miserable as possible so that the bad airconditioning, buzzing lights, and crappy windowless cubicles in Heaven seems ideal in comparison.

Stranger

Was this parent expressing the official stance of the school, or a personal stance?

According to the OP, that parent supported legislation to make his stance the official stance of that school and others.

If you are forced to interact with this person, come prepared with some pamphlets about the Flying Spaghetti Monster (warning, PDFs). After that, odds are he’ll be avoiding you.

Great. Just what we need. Yet another myth glorifying the North over the South.

I assume this is a public school, right?

And by his own admission, that parent seems to be in a tiny minority (since everyone is going to hate him).

Given that, I wouldn’t worry too much. He’s not going to succeed in removing evolution from the school. He’ll just end up making a fool of himself. This amendment-- is to the state or the federal constitution? Either way, it’s not going to fly. And if you’re not bringing your kid up in a fundamentalist household, I can’t see that he’s going to be in danger of becoming a creationist.

Still, that guy sounds like world class prick!

Yeah, I got that. If he’s successful, then we have something to worry about. As it is, it’s not quite state sponsored religion just yet.

[Teacher’s response]I will teach in accordance with accepted cirriculum as designed by the federal and state governments, school board, and professional organizations. Thank you for your input.[/Teacher’s response]

Seriously, it does no good to say anything else, all you’re going to get is a parent who tells their kids that the teacher is wrong and deserves no respect. They’re going to do that anyway, but any level of antagonizing the parent will make it worse and the kid will be disruptive and disrespectful. This hurts the effectiveness of the teacher and everyone suffers.

Given that every school board who has tried to take evolution out of cirriculums has been soundly thrashed for doing so I’m thinking this person will meet with limited success. Your best bet is to support the school in imparting knowledge to your child and be an involved parent with the school. At home make sure your kid knows they can talk to you about anything, anytime. They may make friends with this other parent’s kid and the kid may repeat what he/she’s heard his/her father say which would cause your kid confusion becuase it’s not an age-appropriate topic. Be there for them to help sort out these kinds of things and support your local school board officials who are pushing for strong educational standards. Go to school board meetings and vote in school board elections. No killing, or extraordinary measures are necessary, or warranted. On the other hand, writing this rant isn’t enough, you need to get involved unless you want the vocal minority to railroad you and your kid(s).

Enjoy,
Steven

I fully support this. Hell, I’d support buying your kid dinosaur stuff regardless; that it may serve some useful purpose is just icing on the cake.