My son tried to kill himself

Man, what a shitty thing. After school every day I sit with both kids to do homework together. That way, I’m sure that the homework gets done and is understood. When I got home yesterday I went to get the kids for homework time. My son was sleeping in his bed, so I woke him up and told him to come upstairs.

When he made it upstairs he could barely stand up, was obviously on something. He’d forgotten his books, so he headed back downstairs. My wife got home at the same time, saw the concern on my face and the state of our son, and we both followed him downstairs.

We asked him what he had taken and how much. He said he took nothing, that he was fine, just a little tired, etc. He was obviously not fine. Labored breathing, pupils like pinpoints, obvious inability to track both visually and audially, though having moments of lucidity.

Then things get weird. He completely snapped. He shoved my wife and took a swing at her, then started coming after me, raving that he would kill me. I’m bigger than he is, and have been in a lot more fights, and have dealt with violent inmates at a correctional facility, so I basically deflected him and put him on the ground and held him there.

For obvious reasons, my wife was in freak out mode. She tried to calm us both down, which was probably a good thing, and when my son relaxed I let go of him and stood up. He was quiet for a few minutes, still claiming that he didn’t take anything, and then exploded again. I grabbed him and told my wife to call 911. We struggled for a second until I got him down again and in a position where he couldn’t hurt himself or me, though he tried both.

While my wife was upstairs, my son began swimming in and out of lucid moments and I discovered the following things:

He had tried to kill himslef the night before, but didn’t take enough of the drug to do it.

The drug he took was mine, butabital, which I am prescribed for severe migraine headaches, and was selected because he thought that if he took my medicine and died I would go to jail.

He was planning to kill me. Not in a general way, but yesterday. The plan was to ask me to look at a problem on his computer and attempt to cut my throat or stab me in the back. He had a hunting knife in his room, set on the edge of his desk, where he stands if I have to work on his computer. The hunting knife is usually stored with our camping gear, so he obviously retreived it at some point and took it to his room.

Neither my wife nor I have any idea where this comes from. He’s been fine for a couple of months. In fact, I’d say he was acting more normally than he has in months. The only catalyst we can determine is a light restriction placed on his computer time Sunday because of flagging grades.

What I can’t understand is the plan to kill me. I don’t know where this hatred comes from. I’m not his biological father, his bio-dad was an abusive fucknugget. I’ve been his step father for four years, and we adjusted better than average when I married his mom. I don’t remember things going so smoothly when my mom remarried and I had a new step dad.

I’m in total shock, and mainly writing this down because I don’t know what else to do. I’m planning on a shrink visit for myself as soon as the assholes at the insurance company approve my right to visit one.

In the meantime, I’ve got some pretty serious anger floating around inside of me. And hurt. Lots of confusion. Mainly anger though. Lots and lots. At me, my son, my wife. I know it’s not rational, that it’s a reaction to the situation and the shock of what happened. Some of it is justified, obviously, but not all.

Still, how in the fuck can I possibly come to terms with this kind of thing?

I normally don’t do this, because I think it’s stupid and childish… however, this deserves an exception.

{{{welby}}}

Have the boy put away for evaluation, and follow up on that shrink visit for yourself.

If your insurance fails you on this, keep posting here. Folks here are some of the most compassionate folks I’ve ever seen.

Toss the boys room while he’s away… find out anything else he may have drug or weapon wise. Search his computer for poetry or a diary.

Normally just the thought of doing something like that would horrify me, but if he was planning on killing you, this is all self defense.

Keep us updated.

Jesus Christ I’m sorry welby . You situation sucks. I don’t have much experience in this sort of thing, but a friend of mine’s little brother acted in a similar fashion. The only thing I can say is get your son some mental help, at whatever cost. Don’t ignore it like my friend’s father did, it only gets worse.

Damn…I don’t know. Good luck.

Oh, man. I’m sorry dude, sounds like a truly horrible experience.

How old is your son? Does he have a history of depression, drug abuse or some kind of mental condition?

There are a lot of things that can push people over the edge, I had a good friend who killed himself for no particular reason other than the basic “life sucks” philosophy he adopted.

In any case, I hope you can get some help for yourself and your son, as bad as things may seem right now you never know what the future holds…

— D.

I defenately think this is warranted and a must , take anything that could be construed as a weapon. My friend’s brother came at his father with a screwdriver. So take the things that could do damage. I’d also search his computer to see what sort of websites he frequented-that might give you a clue as to what’s wrong.

I take it he won’t be coming home immediately, though?

I’m not sure it’s even possible to eliminate every type of potential weapon, the only way I can think of is a padded room. I think it’s more important that you find some sort of core problem, if there indeed is one…

— G.

Keep reminding yourself it’s not about you and your parenting, because it’s not. Stuff this extreme, whatever your parenting techniques, comes out when kids going through VERY rough patches latch onto parental figures on whom they can conveniently blame their very real problems in growing up.

The best thing you could do is to remember that, no matter how hard it gets, and don’t distract yourself into worrying about things you might have done differently. (Not saying you have nothing useful to learn from such thoughts, but probably nothing useful to learn right now). He’s going through a rough time, and you can help him and help yourself best by not making this about your flaws in parenting. You have flaws, I’m sure, but this isn’t primarily about them. This is about helping a troubled kid make it through in one piece. Good luck–it’s very stressful.

Wow, welby, that sucks. You seem like such a nice guy, you don’t deserve this. If his bio-dad was abusive, could he have leftover baggage from that experience that he’s taking out on you?

Re: my previous post - I didn’t meant to imply that he would’ve deserved to have his son try to kill him if he weren’t a nice guy, just that it’s especially hard when bad things happen to good people.

Bloody hell, mate, that’s appalling. Really sorry for your family’s problems.

How’s your wife coping?

I think you’ve answered your own question there. Get him some help.

**Welby ** I am so very sorry.

I can only echo what others have said here and add a offer of talk to your son’s friends and teachers to see how things are at school.

(((welby and family)))

I don’t know what to say other than this: it’s not your fault. Take care of yourself, your wife, and your kids, welby. You’ll all be in my thoughts and prayers.

What else is going on in the house? Normally, or abnormally, there is a precursor for behaving this way. I’d like to know how old he is as well. My best friends son was recently expelled from school, and they found in a short period of time that he (12) was still being treated like he was 6 at home. Unbeknownst to me as well, and I go over there quite often.
Behaviour therepy might be a good step instead of the traditional drug’em and train’em. Behaviour therepy also tends to get quicker results. I work in the academic end of psychology not the clinical, but from what you have said there is something between YOU and He that is not resolved… What about this anger you speak of, have you ever taken that out on anyone in the family in front of the boy? Or on the boy himself? Good Luck Welby, lets hope you don’t need it.

I’m sorry you and your family are going through this. I wish you all the best of luck.

Holy crap. I’m so very sorry :frowning:

Hopefully some doctors will get a chance to meet with him and see if there is something that can be treated with medication or therapy…

Oh man welby.

Thank you for sharing this with us… It had to be difficult.

I agree with Tristan. He needs more than talk therapy. He is dangerous to himself and others.

((welby))

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. You will get through this.

I’m really sorry - you obviously have a plateful, and you and your family are in my prayers.

If he’s in school, talk to his teachers, his administrator. See if any of his teachers have noticed drug behavior.

If not, talk to his friends. My guess would be that they don’t want him to hurt himself or anyone else any more than you do.

Breathe. This isn’t anyone’s fault. He’s got problems, and you’ve done nothing but love him.

May you continue to heal, and your family as well.

My only advice would be to put a lock on your bedroom door and lock it when you go to bed. Also lock up ALL of the medicine in the house. Even asprin can kill you if you take too much. Aside from that there isnt much you can do about clearing the house of weapons.Just be very aware of your surroundings, especialy when dealing with your step son. If you missed seeing a hunting knife out in plain view think about what else you might have missed seeing. I would assume if you had guns that they are already locked away and aside from that be aware that just about anything can be turned into a weapon with a little know how. Everyone else has beat the therapy angle to death so I wont go into it. I would say though that for your families safety you should all be on your guard. Think about what could have hapened to your wife if you had not been home to stop her son from attacking her.

Damn, welby. Damn.

Others have said, and I’ll echo briefly, this just ain’t your fault. Psychiatric visits all 'round sounds like a good idea at this point. So, so sorry, mate. Indeed, tossing his room, not so much for weapons as for reasons is a pretty needed move, I’d think.

All I’ll offer in the way of “advice” as it were, is that a genuine, non drug related medical problem could possibly be involved in all this. Nothing you or his mom did or said, nothing his bio-dad (although I can’t say I’d rule this out completely) did or said, nothing legal or illegal he took prior to the attempt, just a chemical imbalance of some type in the brain could, again, possibly, be at fault here.

At least, primarily.

In any case, nothing but our best to you, and we wish you lots of luck in alla this. Get through it, and we’re here with ears and shoulders, mate.

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I’m so sorry, Welby. I don’t know what advice to give you - I was screwed up in the head as a teenager, and ended up on meds (which helped a LOT) and in therapy (which didn’t), but I never tried to kill myself or anyone else. I can’t imagine how scary this must be for you.

All the best wishes for you and your family -

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