Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

Ok, see. Seriously you have two claimed masons listed as potentially more scummy than Dancecat? This is the kind of posting that I was talking about. (I am looking for others, I promise, but I am easily distracted today.)

Jan may or may not be a cop, it may or may not be a redirect claim, but dammit, you have to take that claim into account until you know more. There are more scum out there. If TexCat and Gnarlycharlie are both scum I will eat my hat and if either of them are scum…I don’t something slightly less than eating my hat but more than shrugging it off.

Dancecat, who I think is likely town, HAS to be seen as more suspicious than that.

I’m not completely caught up but I don’t know if I’ll make it to the end of this thread to unvote before the end of this Day!

I don’t like the vote on gnarly, which reminds me
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unvote gnarlycharlie**

After all the discussion that has been going on about the claims, I don’t think **gnarly **(or anyone in the list of 5 that has been floating around) should be lynched toDay. I think that we could probably sort this out better toMorrow because I’m hoping more players will be able to come forward with more information.

I want to change my vote to Scuba Ben toDay because I like the case against him. And why does you flipping town confirm Idle’s message?

I also feel like the scum are probably sitting back laughing at all of us so vehemently discussing which (very likely) townie we are going to vote toDay and are also likely to be the quietest among us right now. Plus, Scuba Ben was the one on the chopping block before all of this started.

vote Scuba Ben

I’m up to 1879. A question keeps sticking in my head.

  • Jan submitted a target (undisclosed) and a backup target (gnarlycharlie).
  • She got no result on her target.
  • She got a message of Wolf on her backup target.

I tentatively conclude that Jan got a random message the same way several other people did (including me).

Further, if we have any normal cops that get the results of their own investigations,

  • They would get results, not messages.
  • They should NOT claim Today unless absolutely necessary.

And another question I just thought of. TexCat and gnarlycharlie, you said you got your full role PMs. I want to double check something – did the full PMs say your roles were both Mason? Was the Night action that you’d find a Mason and get your roles if you did? Or something else?

yaknow i am going to make a ruling that probably gets me modkilled. the fucking kidz are enjoyng the music and whooping it up. i’d counsel let it be. i think we can figure it out.

I may need to sharpen my razor, because I generally don’t use it.

Scumbags love presenting simpler, more believable explanations for things.

Occam’s Razor typically leads directly into scum traps.

I don’t like this idea. If **Texcat **and **gnarly **are telling the truth, a doc targeted gnarly last Night and I don’t think we should be outing any protectors right now.

I’m still catching up. Me flipping Town no longer confirms anything about Idle or his message. It would only confirm that I accurately reported my message. It would also increase the likelihood that other people are accurately reporting their messages.

As for “quietest among us right now” – I like to think I’ve been pretty active for the last hour or so. I disagree with your value of “right now.”

Yeah no jesters, just using it as a rhetorical device.

As for fair and consistent, Dethy is pretty fair and very consistent. Hell, it even favors the TOWN over the mafia, as confusing as it is. :stuck_out_tongue:

Preview doesn’t help today, we’re all moving too fast.

By my count, two people have claimed feelings of protection last Night:

  • NAF
  • septimus

Has anybody else, gnarlycharlie in particular, made such a claim?

UPDATED DAY TWO VOTE COUNT

Through post #2229

Silver Jan (5): Zeriel [1126], [del]Blaster Master [1759][/del], Weedy [1812], Giraffe [1820], [del]Idle Thoughts [1825][/del], Drain Bead [1936], brewha [2159]
gnarlycharlie (4): [del]Weedy [1279][/del], [del]lilflower [1720][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1723][/del], [del]brewha [1732][/del], [del]Silver Jan [1735][/del], [del]NAF1138 [1737][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1738][/del], [del]Giraffe [1768][/del], [del]septimus [1771][/del], [del]Blaster Master [1813][/del], [del]Scathach [1872][/del], Astral Rejection [1971], Inner Stickler [2111], Precambrianmollusc [2123], Scuba_Ben [2173]
Scuba_Ben (4): [del]Blaster Master [1109][/del], [del]Drain Bead [1190][/del], Suburban Plankton [1449], [del]Weedy [1452][/del], [del]Scathach [1499][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [1507][/del], Scathach [1895], Idle Thoughts [1904], lilflower [2222]
Blaster Master (3): sachertorte/DonkTimesFour [1135], [del]septimus [1367][/del], septimus [1808], NAF1138 [2187]
Dancecat (2): Askthepizzaguy [1969], Silver Jan [2154]
Giraffe (1): [del]Normal Phase [1157][/del], [del]peekercpa [1267][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1341][/del], [del]Astral Rejection [1547][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1548][/del], [del]peekercpa [1588][/del], peekercpa [1927]
peekercpa (1): [del]Giraffe [1320][/del], bufftabby [1646], [del]septimus [1664][/del]
Precambrianmollusc (1): [del]Idle Thoughts [1143][/del], crackedquads [2143]
Inner Stickler (1): TexCat [2204]
Brewha (1): [del]Askthepizzaguy [1256][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1472][/del], Normal Phase [2209]
Episkey (0): [del]crackedquads [1552][/del]
DonkTimesFour (0): [del]peekercpa [1663][/del]
TexCat (0): [del]Dancecat [1787][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1929][/del]
Askthepizzaguy (0): [del]peekercpa [1524][/del]
Weedy (0): [del]Scuba_Ben [1586][/del], [del]Askthepizzaguy [1590][/del]

Please PM me with any corrections.

DAY ENDS IN ~4 HOURS.

By the way BlaM can you reconcile the thinking in THIS POST with THIS POST.

Please explain, because I certainly can’t.

473 Inner’s vote on me yesterday. No comment, no opinion, just a vote. He later said he didn’t like me voting for a bad idea. Quite a few people voted for NAF’s bad idea, and yet, Inner didn’t see fit to vote for them, or comment on them. Did he ever even voice an opinion on them? I don’t think so. He has voiced almost no opinions on anything this game. And now he is voting GnarlyCharlie who I know is town and most of you think is likely to be town.

That first post that I linked to was the post that finally put me over the edge to voting for you BTW, the second one has made me feel a lot better about my vote.

Huh, I like this case actually.

I will throw my support behind a lynch of Sticky too.

BlaM
Sticks
Ed are my lynch preferences for the Day as it stands right now. I will vote for whichever is most likely to actually get lynched.

After some more thinking, and reading lilflower in #1883, I have to agree that lynching a claimed mason with a corroborating mason claim is Not Good Play.

unvote gnarlycharlie

AOP. Defensive, self-preservation vote, as I will be AFK for the last hour of the Day: vote Silver Jan and hope that I got a false message. I’m blaming lilflower for forcing me to cast a self-preservation vote.

hey, mykbot you fully loaded and ready to roll?

While I am at it, let’s look at THIS POST in conjunction with the other two of BlaM’s that I linked to.

I can agree with this. At this point, we have a plethora of data points, but no meaningful way to connect them. After Tonight, we ought to have roughly twice the number of points, plus anywhere from 1-4 more alignments to play into it and so we can potentially work out usable information. At this point, if we lynch Silver Jan, even if she is town, we can’t be sure we can trust her message, but we might be able to make more sense of that message and what it says about all the other people who were affected by claimed messages.

That said, unless things change, I’ll return to my original case. At least to this point, I still haven’t seen a response from Scuba_Ben on my case and, while he claims to have received a message, he also claims it wasn’t part of his role, so I think any risk of hitting a cop is low.

Vote Scuba_Ben

Yes. It’s been mentioned a few times but I don’t have the exact posts right now. Frankly, I’m starving and need to get back to work and I really have to walk away. Right . . . . now!

Screw what I was going to post, and that I’m only up to 1901. I see on preview that BlaM is still gunning for me. It’s time for me to jump back to 1424 and reply to his post. There should only be 27 thousand more posts once I’m done with that.