Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

I think Idle’s message he received about my role is something that goes apart from who he claims he targeted. This was the result of someone else’s action. I don’t particularly want to know who targeted me, because I don’t want you outed. I’m guessing that Idle is our Scum Mystic, and the results of other Mystics are going to him. If that’s the case, I’m pretty much confirmed…and therefore likely dead toNight, sadly. I’m not ready to stop playing this game!

What Idle said about my role is consistent with my actions…with one exception, potentially not an exception at all, but I thought I’d mention it. I targeted gnarlycharlie Night 2. Since I had targeted Scuba Ben the first Night, and he reported in the thread that he was able to submit two targets the following Night, I thought I might be a power doubler, and if I was wrong, it’s possible I was another Mason, and if I was wrong about THAT, I might help the Mason find another Mason. I didn’t know shit about the Mason kill then, of course.

The inconsistency here I guess revolves around kill mechanics. We don’t know if charlie was responsible for the Mason kill–it could have been Texcat, or it could be charged to the Masons as a group with neither player directly responsible. If I were a reflector, it might have been the case that I should have reflected the Mason kill back on charlie. But I didn’t. That’s the only thing that might make Idle wrong. But we’ll find out soon enough, I suppose.

You’re right,** Drain Bead**. The info came from Septimus as one of his “Other messages” during the Night. Being a cop (but getting alignment only results, not full role), we assumed he was part of the group that got random messages from other cop-like roles.

And I’ve already told you…Brewha killed off Gnarly and we (scum) Night killed astral. So Texcat’s kill is the mysterious one.

Seriously, why would I lie about this? I’m dead anyway. It would be a waste of my time alllll this time if it was all going to just prove false with my death.

Because you are scum and you have made me doubt myself for days, I am even thinking that Episkey might not be scum when I was so sure he was. If you aren’t a traitor you still win with the scum team.

Not sure why I’m arguing with you, but I’m talking about N2, not N3. I wonder why my reflection of gnarlycharlie didn’t kill him then, but since I don’t know the mechanics of the Mason kill, I can’t say for sure that it even should have.

It wouldn’t be the first time someone did that.

I’m thinking the Masons chose not to kill anyone a few Nights. I seem to remember a few Nights where we (scum) could explain all the Night kills (because most of them only had three or so deaths thus far…with the exception of the last Night).

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For what it’s worth, pwnsall is correct. If there was a day angel in this game (and there may or may not be), the choice of target to be angeled the following day would be a night action.

As their role reveals indicate, the Masons were obliged to submit a target to be killed on each and every night after they found each other.

DAY FOUR VOTE COUNT

Idle Thoughts (14): septimus [3753], Episkey [3755], special ed [3764], Scathach [3769], Scuba_Ben [3780], lilflower [3781], Giraffe [3798], Drain Bead [3803], PCM [3804], DonkTimesFour [3835], [del]Weedy [3847][/del], NAF1138 [3850], Silver Jan [3952], Zeriel [3962], LightFoot [3986]
NAF1138 (1): [del]Idle Thoughts [3838][/del], Weedy [3856], [del]Idle Thoughts [3860][/del]
crackedquads (1): pwnsall [3901]
pwnsall (1): Idle Thoughts [3924]
Episkey (0): [del]Drain Bead [3624][/del], [del]Weedy [3641][/del], [del]Scuba_Ben [3724][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts [3727][/del], [del]Silver Jan [3732][/del], [del]lilflower [3737][/del]
special ed (0): [del]Idle Thoughts [3795][/del]
Weedy (0): [del]Idle Thoughts [3849][/del]

Please PM me with any corrections.

Dammit, Gad. I know that. I was just trying to goad pwnsall into talking/arguing with me. :smack:

Ok, I am of to bed, please don’t make my jaw drop tomorrow morning :slight_smile:

There is a dirty joke in there somewhere!

Posting as I catch up, my apologies if this has already been covered.

So, wait…

You target me on Night 1, supposedly stealing my power, but then you use my power on night 2 to target yourself. So that on Night 3, you get 3 powers?

Somewhere you said you get 1 target. Do both of your actions go towards that person? And you have no idea what they do?

otherwise you would have known what my pwoer was going to do to you.

Did I get that right?

Are you putting credence in the 3rd party power doubler as well?

Since when does an outed Scum’s word even mean anything?

That’s exactly the excuse you’d use if you were a third party.

But just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you*
*More simply: Just because I’m scum doesn’t mean I’m not telling the truth about you.

Only two target (unless you count the mimic power as 1 in which case three is right.) Sounds like you have as good an understanding as I do.

So, do you use your power on a target and steal their power?

So, N0, you steal peeker’s power

You become a Lightening Rod, all actions directed at your target reflect onto you.

N!, you target me. You steal my power doubling power.

Also, any action targeting me should have hit you.

N2, you target yourself, stealing you own power stealing power and also doubling your power.

Then, on N3, you targeted lilflower and Normal Phase, stealing their powers.

And now, on N$, you’ll have to target 1 person with your power, Normal’s power, and lilflower’s power?


With bufftabby mum, I'm left to assume that I didn't actually have my power on N2. Which leads me to believe that peeker did not have his power on N!, and lilflower and Normal Phase might be powerless toNight.

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I think I got what you're saying. I see no real holes in it.

Sorry I’ve missed like the last 5 days guys. I’ve been very busy irl and once I started to get behind it just became too overwhelming to keep up with this thread. Skimming through now and I’ll add whatever I can as we go but I don’t think I’m going to be rereading the last 800 posts.

Frankly, at this point, if he is a traitor I disbelieve it, just so he’ll lose for pandering so hard. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve spent some time reviewing the Night Kills, hoping they might tell us something. I’m not sure if they have or not, but here’s what I came up with:

What we know

Night 1
Mahaloth was shot
Guiri was killed (no color)
Silman was killed (no color)

Night 2
Dancecat was shot (by “multiple people”)
Inner Stickler was shot (with Guiri’s gun)
peeker was killed (no color)

Night 3
gnarlycharlie was shot
Astral Rejection was shot
TexCat was killed (no color)
brewha was killed (no color)

How it might have happened

Night 1:
Mahaloth was probably shot by Guiri. (He was also poisoned, but we know that didn’t kill him.)
Guiri was either the Scum kill, or was brewha’s Vig kill
Silman was tareted by LightFoot

Night 2:
Dancecat was shot by “multiple people”. We’ve been assuming that was the Scum kill. I don’t think so. I think that was the Mason’s kill.
Inner Stickler was shot “with Guiri’s gun”. This suggests a backup Vig?
peeker was LightFoot’s target, after she was redirected.

Night 3:
brewha was poisoned by Askthepizzaguy, so that likely explains his death
Astral must have been the Mason’s target, unless they were blocked. There is no mention of a “group” killing Astral, so it may be that the Mason kill did not go through.
gnarlycharlie was LightFoot’s target. The first two Nights, LightFoot’s target was killed with no color, but tonight he was shot. Could that mean that someone else targeted him as well?
I think maybe so. The PMs shown in the death reveals for Tex and gnarly said “you search for your fellow mason” (singular). This implies that there were to and only two Masons, and that they were both Town. The Scum would have known that there were no Scum Masons, so best case scenario for them was that we had two Confirmed Town, and worst case was that there might be additional Masons waiting to be found. Therefore it would have been very much in the Scum’s best interest to get rid of the Masonry last Night. And I think that’s what they did. brewha targeted gnarlycharlie, and TexCat was the regular Scum kill.

What I think it all means

Night 1:
Mahaloth was shot by Guiri
Guiri was killed by Scum (Nightly kill)
Silman was killed by LightFoot
brewha was either blocked, or his target was protected

Night 2:
Dancecat was shot by the Masons
Inner Stickler was shot by brewha
peeker was killed by LightFoot

Night 3:
gnarlycharlie was shot by brewha, and was also targeted by LightFoot
TexCat was killed by Scum (Nightly kill)
Astral Rejection was killed by the Masons
brewha was poisoned by Askthepizzaguy
The biggest problem with the above is the color surrounding Inner Stickler’s death on Night 2. It is mentioned that “someone found Guiri’s gun and decided to put it to use”. That doesn’t sound like brewha, who should have had his own gun. Another issue is that Dancecat’s death was attributed to “multiple people”, whereas there is no such mention regarding Astral’s death, both of which I have assigned to the Masons. These items either are or are not a big problem depending on how significant the detail in the color is.

If I am correct, what this tells us is that the only evident killing power left in the game besides the Nightly Scum kill is LightFoot, so the body count should drop from this point on. Of course, it’s possible that there is another killer out there, and the roleblocker(s) and doctor(s) that we appear to have managed to successfully prevent at least one kill each Night. I think that’s somewhat unlikely, but I can’t be certain.

If I am incorrect, then there is at least one unknown killing role needed, to explain Inner Stickler’s death.
So there you go. I’m absolutely certain there exist not even the tiniest flaws in my logic or reasoning, so there’s no point in even thinking about trying to find them.

Unless you feel you must :slight_smile: