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WTF I didn’t know it was duckburg that was going to be subbed out. Make that bastard play imo. ![]()
Intimidated by the amazing moderator-ing imo
Vote NAF1138
Naf is basically a lock wolf here. I’m reading Idle Thoughts post slip up.
Pizza gets the episkey/naf = wolves messages, idle counterclaims his wolf buddy as villager, doesn’t mention episkey. Naf backs up Idle claims with “Idle’s claim makes total sense of my role.”
Episkey suggests lynching NAF next after Idle is outed, Idle responds with
"Yes! Yes, lynch NAF next. That’s a very good thing to do! " Complete with several smiley faces. Looks like he’s trying a little too hard to fake his enthusiasm. He goes on to say:
Weedy probably villager based on interaction w/ outed idle.
Pwnsall very likely villager for pushing the idle/brewha case. Idle prob didn’t know brewhas role at that point and it doesn’t even matter because brewha was already poisoned. If wolves didn’t know if one of them was the antidote then they might as well turbo bus brewha for the villa points.
Idle also says:
Which is after he over does his “yes you should lynch NAF” post…
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Less emphasis than his overreaction but still trying to sell it..
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here’s his claim of me..
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again, naf + these 3..
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Septimus can’t be an alignment only wolf seer. That’s a fucking retarded role. Wolves already know who every one is. The only wolf seer would be a full role seer. Septi cleared.
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And before the slip up we have idle’s big long post where it occurs, which includes these gems:
a - claims to target NAF - NAF is a mimic, he selects targets night action the following night.
b - claims to target SilverJAN - Two messages, one was a block, 2nd Drain Bead = reflector/villager.
Spews Drain Bead villager. States matter of factly that DB wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated but with NAF says "apparently NAF is a villager and wins when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. In the first underline he’s adding his own wording and the second part is his editing fail, the mod wouldn’t type “Town Village” in the role PM.
Naf is going to flip wolf, then he wants us to go episkey/pwnsall/septimus, the 3 who have all had varying degrees of interaction with him who have led to his demise. Naf sticks out from this list, and the difference is Idle actually tries to protect NAF while episkey/pwns/septimus have all treated idle hostilely.
Idle’s random spew can still be analyzed, and in my opinion:
NAF = wolf
Everyone else spewed villager from most villagery to least:
Drain Bead
Special Ed
Septimus
Pwnsall
Episkey
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Crackedquads
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lilflower*
JD*
Looks like I forgot all the special ed quotes but he just tries claiming ed a neutral power doubler over and over again. It spews special ed villager because he’s drawing way too much attention to special who could be taken as a 3rd party at face value. Unfortunately doing so at all would require us to believe the septimus = wolf seer alignment only role, which I guarantee doesn’t exist because wolves don’t need an alignment seer. Ed also being a 3rd party he would need some sort of win condition which doesn’t make sense if his power is a power doubler because he can’t use that power at all to help him actually achieve anything except making randoms stronger.
*Note that one/both of these guys could be wolves because while idle tries to mention them in his spew, he never brings them up again except when posting at the same time as lilflower during his spam.
Pwnsall, I hope me just solving half the game for you is villagery enough
Now let’s get the lynch train a rolling and we can POE the rest of the group.
Who subbed in for timelady?
Oh, gross, it was pwnsall.
From my early game notes I saved a timelady quote about her having a villa lean on idle thoughts for some post(s) he made and had a “if time lady flips wolf, idle wolf??” note in there.
Rereading timelady there’s almost only mechanics talk outside of a couple of posts (the above included) but since you apparently subbed in d1 there isn’t that much for her and everyone to talk about yet so it’s essentially a null tell. You’re obv still a villager.
I really hate that when I’m actually here to play nobody else is. Goodnight.
I must also apologize for being even more irritable that usual these last few days. My excuse is family health crises which have left me almost sleepless. My 10-year old son is home from hospital, almost fully recovered from pneumonia, but I am too sleep-deprived to contribute much right now.
Without attempting to make cases I will state my present feelings.
Vote: crackedquads
It would be nice to know who killed Astral. If it was Scum, a logical motive would be cover for crackedquads. (If we knew Astral was killed by the Masons, my suspicion of c-q would be reduced, but still not go away.)
Welcome back, LightFoot ! I’ll assume you are, again, Town, as it would be a strange conflict of interest for Mod to let you play against your own team! 
I targeted you.
I doubt that helps.
I think this role is in the game. There’s what PCM said earlier about the apothecary thing, and I no longer think the message I got last night is likely to be true.
(It said I was a roleblocker. I did target Idle night two, which matches if he was telling the truth about that. But no one I’ve targeted since has said anything about being blocked today (or earlier), and two people have claimed blocks today who I did not target. So I’m thinking that’s wrong.)
Looking back at the Night 3 results (#3617) we had this:
Here’s my thought: bewha shot gnarlycharlie and the Wolves ate TexCat. Killing confirmed Town is a Good Thing for Scum, especially when the confirmed Town has a role that threatens the Scum. It’s possible each of gnarlycharlie and TexCat had a Night kill. They might have coordinated their actions to only kill one target. And it’s possible they shot Astral. The question is, WHY?
Too many questions, no known Masons around to answer.
I was looking at this because of septimus’s curiosity about who might have killed Astral.
By the way, I would never assume a killed-off Town player automatically returns as Town.
This morning, I’m more willing to hang NAF than hang Episkey. I freely admit part of it is due to Episkey’s defense and NAF’s “I don’t have time”.
**unvote Episkey
vote NAF1138
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Gadarene, updated player list please? With Alive/subs and Dead/team/role please?
Minor nitpick but every single Villager PM that Gad has posted has this win con:
*You win when all threats to Town Village have been eliminated. *
I like all of this but the conclusion that Idle’s original claim about NAF is necessarily true (as to alignment, the other part seems solid). NAF has for the most part avoided pinging me (the peeker vote did slightly, the comments about Special Ed did maybe), but he’s a good player, and he did back off his own bandwagon on Blaster once it picked up steam. Maybe more to the point, Idle’s certainly ballsy enough to lie about a fellow scum’s alignment right off the bat like that.
What I don’t entirely understand is where your choices of invesigatee are coming from. I’m guessing it’s from another player, though.
Assumign you work the same way as Ben does (who I more or less trust to be town), I don’t understand number two or three.
Silver Jan – > gnarly is scum (false).
Pizza –> NAF or Episkey is scum. (Who are you saying has flipped, here?)
Gnarly –> pwnsall is scum. But it went to you, not gnarly. How? Not your role, not gnarly’s. Can’t be Drain Bead, who claimed with evidence to have targeted you last night. So how? Drain Bead town and scum have a duplicate of her role, who targeted Episkey? Also, why target gnarly for your result? Of anyone he seems high risk to be dead in the mornign and unable to report anything.
pwnsall – > Episkey is scum (claimed false). Result went to Episkey, claimed due to targeting by Drain Bead. This is consistent: Episkey and Scuba both seem to choose the recipient of the investigation target, not the target himself. Presumably someone else chose Episkey; that the result went to Episkey himself and not pwnsall is due to Drain Bead.
I sympathize if you’re town, and to a certain extent understand your frustration “as town” better than I understand NAF’s just rolling over, ignoring the whole thing, and saying “go ahead and lynch me”. I don’t agree with the arguments that an insane (or even a paranoid) cop must be scum; I think that’s too simplistic. Insane cops aren’t even strictly anti-town (arguably quite the opposite, once figured out).
Of everything up there I’m mostly bothered by the choice of gnarly, I think.
I don’t understand how this relates to the issue that Scuba Ben raised. I do think that, assuming that he is town, either you or NAF must be a wolf.
I will say this. I don’t think that going after an automatic 50-50 today is the best use of the town’s resources given that we have a vig and appear to be under less than zero time pressure in terms of getting the remaining mafia dead.
Who did you target last Night?
I meant who did you target Night 3?
Sorry - I think we know that, right? You targeted me and Normal Phase so doesn’t that mean that you used one of our powers on Lightfoot?
Pizza was after him, that’s all I can think of.
If I understand correctly, you’re asking from where comes the person whose alignment gets whispered to the recipient. That, I have no idea. For all I know, it’s purely random.