Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

[Scathach]

Heh, interesting paradox - what happens if Septimus targets a role blocker?

[Scathach]

@Giraffe

I could be, yes. But I don’t know who else targeted her.

I did.

[Drain_Bead]

I don’t know if I was specifically told I was cured, but I assume I was, seeing as I’m still alive.

[Scathach]

@Drain_Bead

I don’t know if I was specifically told I was cured, but I assume I was, seeing as I’m still alive.

It was mentioned in the morning post.

[septimus]

@Giraffe

I posted my first four Nights worth of targets back in post 3722:

I apologize. I think I saw this, then repressed it (assuming it would reappear in one of Lilflower’s great summaries ). You also got peeks for non-targets N1 and N2, right? Any idea about that?

So now I commit to revealing my targets if/when either Normal Phase or J.D. reveal theirs.

[lilflower]

@septimus

I apologize. I think I saw this, then repressed it (assuming it would reappear in one of Lilflower’s great summaries ). You also got peeks for non-targets N1 and N2, right? Any idea about that?

So now I commit to revealing my targets if/when either Normal Phase or J.D. reveal theirs.

Can you tell us what PM you got last Night? It could help a townie figure out their role or, if it’s a scum role, let us know what we are up against.

[Suburban_Plankton]

@septimus

I also volunteered to go first if there was a mass reveal. Remember?

Yes, but instead of a mass reveal, we’ve been getting information slowly leaking out player by player, so it’s becoming clear that we’re not going to have any sort of ‘mass claim’. You’re now volunteering to basically go next-to-last, which is very convenient for you.

[Suburban_Plankton]

@Scathach

I did.

And?

Did you get a result?

You targeted:

N0 - ???
N1 - Dancecat
N2 - special ed
N3 - ???
N4 - Drain Bead
N5 ???

Car to fill in the blanks? Do you know, or have an idea, what your power is?

[septimus]

@lilflower

Can you tell us what PM you got last Night? It could help a townie figure out their role or, if it’s a scum role, let us know what we are up against.

I’m not sure if that info would be more helpful to Town or Scum.

Can anyone summarize what we know about the mechanism that causes Players to receive incorrect versions of their own role PM’s?

[LightFoot]

@lilflower

We also have Lightfoot I’s claim that he was redirected from crackedquads onto peeker. Now this could be the result of peeker himself, I think. If peeker targets crackedquads, doesn’t peeker then become the target of anything directed at crackedquads?

JD also claims to have been redirected on Night 2.

The claimed watcher claimed that they saw LightFoot 1 being redirected to **Peeker ** LF1 had no clue

[Scathach]

@Suburban_Plankton

And?

Did you get a result?

You targeted:

N0 - ???
N1 - Dancecat
N2 - special ed
N3 - ???
N4 - Drain Bead
N5 ???

Car to fill in the blanks? Do you know, or have an idea, what your power is?

N0 septimus. Night 3 Idle thoughts. All no apparent result. But Idle and Special Ed reported feeling healthy. And DrainBead was cured.

[Precambrianmollusc]

@septimus

I’m not sure if that info would be more helpful to Town or Scum.

Can anyone summarize what we know about the mechanism that causes Players to receive incorrect versions of their own role PM’s?

So far as Iknow I received a role PM stating role powers and alignment but with my name at the beginning. In addition I received a result based on my own power

Did you recieve something like that?

[lilflower]

@Scathach

N0 septimus. Night 3 Idle thoughts. All no apparent result. But Idle and Special Ed reported feeling healthy. And DrainBead was cured.

So you targeted Drain Bead on Night 5 (last Night), right? What about Night 4?

[septimus]

@Precambrianmollusc

So far as Iknow I received a role PM stating role powers and alignment but with my name at the beginning. In addition I received a result based on my own power

Did you recieve something like that?

Yes, I received a PM with role and alignment, along with a “no result” for my own action.

I’m 98% sure the stated role is incorrect.
Yours stated you were Apothecary, but you think you’re Tracker, right?
Has anyone else reported such incorrect role PMs?

I do not understand the mechanism; the following seems too complicated:
A targets B
C targets D
B’s role is sent to D with D’s name substituted for B’s.

A and B are a perverse detective pair?

Lilflower’s repeated questions make me suspect she’s A in this scenario. I’d answer her question … if I had her soft-cleared as Town.

My mind is boggled in this game. If players chime in with thoughts on Lilflower’s Towniness, I’ll decide whether to answer her question.

[septimus]

@septimus

A and B are a perverse detective pair?

NETA: A and C.

[Scuba_Ben]

@septimus

I apologize. I think I saw this, then repressed it (assuming it would reappear in one of Lilflower’s great summaries ). You also got peeks for non-targets N1 and N2, right? Any idea about that?

Not to speak for Giraffe, but according to my notes:

In #1820 Giraffe reported receiving a message that Blaster Master was a Villager. We now know that BlaM sent that message and that it was false.

Somewhere before 2980, Giraffe reported receiving a message that pwnsall was a Villager. I have since claimed to have targeted Giraffe on N2 and have concluded that I sent him that message.

I am very interested in J.D. (ex Sister Coyote)'s list of targets. Or indeed, J.D. saying much of anything.

[Precambrianmollusc]

It may not need redirection
It could be the person with the power tells their target they have a random role

[lilflower]

UPDATED LIST OF CLAIMS
Please let me know if I got anything wrong.

Night 0
**AskthePizzaGuy **targets lilflower
NAF targets **peeker (successful; has peeker’s power on Night 1)
Normal Phase targets Drain Bead
Mykbot/DuckburgDK targets himself
Suburban Plankton targets Krayz **
Giraffe targets Normal Phase
Episkey targets Dancecat
**Idle **targets Suburban Plankton [post 3721]
pwnsall targets TexCat

bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target)

Scathach targets septimus

Night 1
Ed targets Scuba Ben
Drain Bead targets Scuba Ben
Scuba Ben gets two targets on Night 2
Scuba Ben gets message that Jan is villager
Giraffe targets **peeker **
Episkey targets Jan (confirmed by SP)
Silver Jan targets Ed

**Idle **targets NAF [post 3721]
**Idle **gets message that NAF is village mimic [post 3721]

**AskthePizzaGuy **targets Mahaloth
**Mahaloth **is poisoned and shot

Scathach targets Dancecat
**Idle **gets message that **Dancecat **is villager

Scuba Ben targets gnarlycharlie
**gnarlycharlie **feels protected

Episkey targets Jan
Silver Jan gets message that **gnarlycharlie **is wolf

**gnarlycharlie **targets Texcat
**gnarlycharlie **and **Texcat **discover they are village masons

**BlasterMaster **targets Giraffe
Giraffe gets message that **BlasterMaster **is villager

Weedy gets message that **Texcat **is Villager and mason

NAF targets Ed (and has his power for Night 2)

Lightfoot I targets **silman *rec’d “No apparent result” except he woke up dead
PCM watches Episkey (Suburban Plankton visited Episkey)
SP tracks Episkey who visited Silver Jan

bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target but says it was not septimus)
NAF feels protected
**Idle **feels safe
septimus enjoyed kindness
Ed got no result
SisterCoyote/JD got no result (do not know target)
**pwnsall **is roleblocked
Scathach targets Dancecat
**Zeriel **targets Lightfoot I
crackedquads targets Ed (“didn’t feel like using his power”)
septimus targets bufftabby

Night 2
AskthePizzaGuy targets brewha
**brewha **is poisoned

**Idle **targets Jan
**Idle **targets AskthePizzaGuy
PCM targets SP (no one visited SP)
Drain Bead targets gnarlycharlie
SP tracks Lightfoot I who went in one direction but then turned towards peeker
Giraffe targets AskthePizzaGuy
Episkey targets AskthePizzaGuy
Ed targets buff (random)

Silver Jan target Idle
**Idle **is roleblocked

Scathach targets Ed
Special Ed feels healthy
Special Ed gets a complete role PM with power outlined

NAF (mimic) targets himself (with Ed’s power)
NAF gets two targets on Night 3

bufftabby targets herself
bufftabby felt a warm glow

Episkey targets AskthePizzaGuy

**AskthePizzaGuy **gets message that NAF is a wolf
**AskthePizzaGuy **gets message that Episkey is a wolf
PCM gets a message that he is the apothecary [but doesn’t believe it]
Giraffe gets a message that **pwnsall **is town
Lightfoot I targeted crackedquads “No apparent result” still alive *
Donkx4 gets a message that **Dancecat **is a villager
JD was redirected
**Idle **gets message that Drain Bead is village reflector [post 3721]

**pwnsall **targets buff
**pwnsall **gets “successful” response regarding Night action

Normal Phase targets Idle Thoughts
Scathach targets Ed
**Zeriel **targets peeker
crackedquads targets **Dancecat **(Dancecat dies)

Night 3
Lightfoot I targets **gnarlycharlie **“No Apparent Result “ except he was shot *
Jan targets Lightfoot I

**Idle **targets himself [post 3721]
**Idle **targets Episkey

PCM targets **pwsnall **
PCM gets results on septimus (no one visited septimus)

Drain Bead targets herself
Drain Bead has two targets Night 4

Giraffe targets Ed

Scuba Ben gets a message that **Weedy **is a villager
**Idle **feels healthy

Suburban Plankton tracks crackedquads (CQ visited lilflower)
NAF (as Ed) targets Normal Phase
NAF (as Ed) targets lilflower

Normal Phase targets crackedquads
Scathach targets Idle Thoughts
**Zeriel **targets TexCat
Episkey targets gnarlycharlie
Episkey gets a message that **pwnsall **is scum
crackedquads targets lilflower (lilflower does not die)
septimus targets PCM

Night 4
**Lightfoot I ** targets Episkey
Scuba Ben targets Drain Bead
PCM targets crackedquads (no one visited CQ)
Drain Bead targets Episkey
Drain Bead targets Lightfoot I

Drain Bead feels safe
Drain Bead gets a message that Ed is town

NAF (as lilflower and Normal Phase?) targets Lightfoot I

Normal Phase gets a role PM for a roleblocker
Giraffe targets himself
**Zeriel **targets NAF (says NAF is town)
Episkey targets pwnsall
Episkey gets a message the Episkey is scum
Jan reports “no apparent result”
Ed is roleblocked
**pwnsall **is “successful” on Zeriel
crackedquads targets Lightfoot I (Lightfoot I dies)

Night 5
Scuba Ben is roleblocked
Drain Bead is cured
Drain Bead targets Normal Phase
Scathach targets Drain Bead
Giraffe targets Drain Bead
Episkey is roleblocked
septimus receives a role PM
crackedquads targets **pwnsall **(pwnsall dies)

[crackedquads]

@Scuba_Ben

Why would you have thought you were a Vig, when your action didn’t work N0? This doesn’t make sense to me.

Now addressing everybody but cq: CQ said e’d shot pwnsall simply because pwnsall had dared to vote for em and make a strong case. That’s the largest case of *OMGYS So I’ll Night Kill You *that I’ve ever seen. Plus, at the time pwnsall was soft cleared (hard cleared to me and anybody who trusts me). Therefore, CQ’s attack at pwnsall was strongly anti Town.

As I recall, CQ has claimed intentionally targeting Villagers, and has not claimed any attacks on confirmed (Dead) Scum. I see no reason to believe anything e says about, well, just about anything. Further, e’s the only player to have claimed being told anything nonstandard about their role at game start. (I consider Scum being told “These are your fellow Scum, and here’s how you can talk with them” as standard.)

Therefore I conclude CQ poses a threat to BOTH Town and Wolf. However, e’s presently acting as a co-belligerent with Wolves against Town, and therefore unlikely IMO to be the Wolf’s target Tonight.

For myself, I think it’s more useful at present to lynch probable Scum than probable SK. So I’m still keeping my vote on Episkey. A cliche in the hand, and all that.

CQ, now I address you: Should you survive the Day, please shoot at people you think are Wolves. If you truly can win with either side, you really really want us to not keep trying to lynch you.

I’ll address you paragraph by paragraph good sir:

Yeah I shot pwnsall cus I was mad. He was the biggest cause of me being outed, and I’m very likely not to survive til the end of game like I have to to win, so I might as well have fun and get a revenge kill.

I could have claimed to have killed scum. No one would probably argue with me if I did. I just choose to tell the truth because it’s easier. Me claiming to have only killed villagers makes me MORE LIKELY to be telling the truth.

Additionally, yes, I feel like I was given more information than you guys were about the game. I’m a neutral, that explains why I would have more information.

For being a logical mother fucking person, I present you with an gift (which you can accept or refuse):

You can pick my target for tonight. You can either gave me one specific name (It’s best to do this right before end of day so the wolves can’t try any shenanigans) or give me a short list of suspects and I’ll randomly target one of them.

[crackedquads]

Has any trackers claimed to have targeted me? I would suspect they would get no result also, but if not they should be able to verify my targets.