It’ll spoil the suspense but I may as well reveal what I think my role to be.
I become my target’s target. I don’t know who Bufftabby targeted N1, but I targeted her and got the warm glow. I targeted PCM N3 so he watched me instead of his intended target (pwnsall?). Other than these, my targeting has led to no reports, whether PMs to me, or reports in the thread.
I ask for advice. First, was it wise for me to report my role? Second, whom should I target in future?
Wouldn’t it be logical for Scum to falsely claim targeting another Scum?
It sounds slightly different. It sounds like septimus becomes his target’s new target. For peeker, it sounds like whatever was directed at his target was redirected to peeker.
X targets Y
Z targets X
septimus targets X which changes the actions to
X targets septimus
Z targets X
X targets Y
Z targets X
peeker targets X which changes the actions to
X targets Y
Z targets peeker
Assuming my logic is correct, the difference seems subtle. And it’s all still a bit confusing.
Giraffe did say that he got a message that Blaster was town so either Blaster really did target Giraffe or Giraffe is lying. No one else said they got a message about Blaster so it’s quite possible that Giraffe did get a message. I originally thought that this would clear Giraffe as well but it might not. However, I really don’t see why a scum would target another scum on Night 1 when he couldn’t have known his role (since NAF seems to be the one player whose Night 0 action went through).
My only concern about Giraffe in this game right now is that he is being really quiet. However, his posts in general don’t ping me.
I agree that I’m far from confirmed Town based on my interactions with Blaster Master, but I do think it’s pretty much confirmed that I was targeted by him on N1 since we know his role as message sender, and no one else got a message about his alignment. It would be a bit of an odd play for a wolf to target a fellow wolf before they know if they’re a Vig or not: I’d guess the wolves all targeted non-wolves that first night. It would also be an odd play for me to announce BM’s message, since I’d know it was a lie and thus could potentially redirect suspicion to me once he was lynched – if I was a wolf and learned BM’s power after N1, I’d tell him to either target a Townsperson on N2 or just keep targeting Wolves and claim a totally different power. But those arguments are all “scum wouldn’t do that” which is generally dangerous for Town to start flinging around willy-nilly so let’s just stick with the fact that BM was a false message sender and no one else got a message about him.
I’m also dubious of you claiming to be a second Lightning Rod – it seems like an odd role for Town to have two of. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if scum had a redirector of that type, though.
FYI, I’m leaving on vacation tomorrow, so I may not be around as much during the next week (although I will have wireless throughout the trip). Right now, my list of wolf suspects in order of suspicion:
crackedquads Episkey (based on Scuba_ben’s results and Suburban’s analysis, if he flips Town I’d reexamine them both more critically) septimus Normal Phase
That’s a big leap, then. When I hear “a warm glow”, “Whore” is not exactly the first thing that leaps to mind. I’m curious whether, on the Night that NAF “felt safe”, he also experienced being blocked, seeing as how I targeted him that Night. I could look for myself, but I’m supposed to be working right now…
Catching up, with brief comments on a numebr of items:
septimus, why don’t you tell us the rest of your targets? Even if there has so far been no result, knowing now who you targeted might prevent Scum from making false claims later on. Or alternatively, might force you as Scum to make false claims now which can be disproven later on.
I has proposed a sort of ‘universal backup’ role, that adopts one of the powers from the previous Night’s kills. Though I had forgotten that **Krayz **was a ‘Delayer’; since there have so far been quite a few roles that have been duplicated between Town and Scum there’s a good chance that the Scum have a similar role.
I like this. I think we should use it in future games.
It can be either, but in my experience it’s almost always the case where the Scum need to pick a specific player to perform the Night Kill. Generally that player cannot perform any other action. In this game, there does not seem to be that restriction at least, since we were told that everyone must perform their Night action every Night, so it may well be that the Scum kill is a ‘collaborative effort’.
Would ou care to list your targets, for the record?
According to my notes, NAF “felt protected” (I think those are his exact words - at least, that is what I put in my notes) on Night 1 which is the Night he targeted Ed.
I think this is correct, though the difference is more than slight. I’ll agree it’s a bit confusing.
And leaves me with a quandary of whom to target. I don’t want to target a Doctor – he should keep an important power alive, not my useless Reverse-Lightning or whatever it’s called. If I target Special Ed on Night 6, I guess that means I get two Reverse-Lightning targets for Night 7 … but I won’t know what to do with either one. :dubious:
In other news, giraffe’s pretense that Town-friendly septimus is Scummy just makes me suspect him more.
Assume for the moment that he is Scum. What reason would he then have for running through the thread with a big “LYNCH ME!” sign on his back? At the time he started his little one-man play (Post 4870) the vote was tied 5-5 between him and Episkey. It seems that would be a good time, if Episkey were Town, to do anything other than draw votes onto himself. Even if Episkey were Scum but protected by a Day Angel, drawing votes off of Episkey and onto himself seems counter-productive.
If crackedquads is Town, then his beghavior makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, so I’m not even going to consider the possibility.
Which leaves us with crackedquads being a Third Party. I have no real problem believing this. The question is: does he have some sort of self-protection, or was he Day-Angeled? The relevant section from the rules post says “do not expect any roles that do not pertain directly to night actions – there will be no godfathers, no millers, no double voters.” It seems to me that a role that extends protection from a Lynch - a Day Action, does not “pertain directly to night actions”, so I’m of the opinion that tere is no Day Angel in this game.
I am suspicious of the idea that he was told about his ‘toughness’ in his pre-game PM, though it is possible that he received his own PM on Night 1 or 3 (though why he wouldn’t have simply claimed that I don’t know). But even so, I find it hard to believe that he could survive multiple Lynches. One kill, sure. One Lynch and one Night Kill, OK. But multiple Lynches I don’t believe.
I’ve been asking for such claims in general for some time. And you’ve repeated ad nauseam a demand for me specifically to claim unilaterally.
Normal Phase, Giraffe, and J.D. – all likely Scum – have posted almost nothing about their targets. I’ll promise to post mine after any two of these post theirs.
The reason that I keep harping on you specifically to name your targets is because you keep asking others to do the same, or advocating a mass claim. You seem to be wanting others to divulge information, yet you are not willing to do so yourself. It seems like you have something to hide.
I posted my first four Nights worth of targets back in post 3722:
I have yet to see any evidence of my power, though I suspect I may be the now-useless Apothecary. One weird wrinkle: I targeted myself on N4 to see if I could get any indication of what it is I do and got a slightly different result back: it still said no obvious result, but added that I seemed to be headed in the right direction. No idea what that means. I targeted Drain Bead last Night just in case I was the Apothecary and got the usual no result message back.
