I wasn’t aware your discourse had been stifled. Evidence suggests otherwise - you can write (and have written) as much as you want. If anything, your issue is with whatever Empire fascist closed the first thread.
No, not just “my” discourse, but rather the discourse of everyone that tries to rationally participate in a debate that FinnAgain has graced with his childish presence. Note that one does not need to physically silence anyone in order to destroy intellectual debate - more often than not, the same goal can be effectively achieved with disruptive behavior. FinnAgain is like an ill-behaved and spoiled toddler screaming at the top of his lungs while the adults are attempting to engage in a serious conversation. Such juvenile shenanigans clearly disrupt the normal give-and-take of a debate to the detriment of all of its participants.
Oh, so you’re defending the vaguely-defined Unknown Doper, are you? Well, they’re just as free as you are to “discourse” their little hearts out. If they fail to use the Ignore function for the purpose to which it was designed, or they just can’t resist responding, that’s not a stifling issue. I suppose it might be a baiting issue, in which case you (or anyone) has the option of starting a Pit thread about Finn (or anyone) in which you can say “I know what you’re doing and you’re a fuckin’ jerk for doing it.”
You’re starting to sound like the villain in a Scooby Doo episode. “I’d have got away with it, too, if it weren’t for you Empires and your meddling Australia!”
**Commissar **, logic then says that you should be able to point at the many that agree with you that Finn is childish **and **you are the adult here…
… well, right now even the one you suspect that would help you here is iffy on the last item.
I had the same thought. That show has really ruined any serious use of the word “meddling”, hasn’t it? That and similarly destroyed phrases might make for an interesting Café thread.
How did you reach this particular conclusion, my friend? Truth isn’t a popularity contest; the truth value of facts does not increase or diminish based on how many adherents there are in existence. What you’re describing is theism, rather than the real world.
To a certain degree, it could be argued that most people would prefer to have their arguments validated by others. At the same time, such validation is hardly a prerequisite. I do not know how many people do or do not agree with my assessment of the situation. Frankly, I don’t particularly care (perhaps because I have already rejected democracy in its entirety, so I’m not looking for a vote on the matter).
Ah, communism… a consensus of one.
Nah, read it again, I’m talking about people coming to support you or saying that your points are the greatest thing since sliced bread. The evidence is not here.
Well, there is this little bitty thing called history and I’m on my way to become an historian, what I’m trying to say is that you are blowing it, big time. (Really, besides teaching “grandpa” to suck eggs you are also telling the one that could have a sympathetic ear to your ideas that he should not care in turn about you or your ideals)
You may not care, but your boat has already sailed and was sunk. The future belongs to the ones that do not dwell in the past, but learn from the mistakes of the past and find new solutions. And no, democracy is (historically speaking) just developing and growing in places where autocracies thrived before (Latin America) your rejection of democracy has less justification now than in the recent past.
Well, that and the only thing he’s been able to do is whine piteously about me and he’s been unable to show I was wrong on a single particular and every accusation of his that I was “lying” was, itself, a lie. My favorite so far (in this thread at least) was where he claimed that he hadn’t actually supported NK’s version of events and then when met with a cite for his claim in black and white that South Korea lobbed shells over the border as per NK’s version of events, he quickly changed the subject.
Then again, the only guy even partially on his ‘side’ is so intelligent that he hasn’t figured out how to multiquote yet and so emotionally mature that he blames other people for his outbursts and inability to control himself. Truly, Commy’s corner is starting to look like The School of Athens.
Speaking of Comedy Gold, I liked how Damuri was engaging in his mealymouthed apologia for North Korea in the other thread and trying to explain why, when they said they’d acted in “self defense”, they meant anything other than self defense. And, of course, that we knew this because the Norks wouldn’t say anything batshit insane that they’d know the rest of the world wouldn’t buy. Followed quickly by an example of NK doing just that, resulting in a ‘gee whiz guess NK does say nutty shit’ “retraction”. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that Damuri sorta admitted he was being really stupid, but not quite so good that he jumped straight to Stupid Level 5 and had to be talked down to a more stable level.
Assuming he’s not simply a liar and a troll (I know, I know)…
An adult capable of going from Libertarianism to Fascism (in anything less than a well-lived and very turbulent lifetime, at least) is sufficiently intellectually schizoid that it’s possible. ‘Commy’s next persona’ would probably be a good subject to bet on: ultra-jingoist American Cowboy cheering on McCarthy? Theocratic God Botherer cheering on the Saudis and the Taliban? Free Market Messiah championing eliminating the FDA and all environmental regulation? The possibilities are intriguing.
Speaking of your trolling habit of turnspeak, addressed your error yet that the Rome Statute does indeed apply even if one of the two states involved hasn’t ratified it? No?
How about your error that the Sam Remo manual doesn’t describe the current state of international customary law, one that you ‘accidentally’ stumbled upon by dishonestly cherrypicking only the first sentence out of a paragraph that explained, in great detail, just why the the Sam Remo Manual described the current state of international customary law?
No?
Speaking of your trolling habit of lying constantly, addressed the fact yet that the posts which you claimed answered my questions in fact avoided them and you never once provided evidence in international law or international custom to show that NK’s actions were either “justified” or “appropriate”?
No?
Found cites for international law or custom how shells falling in empty ocean, not aimed at any nation’s possessions or citizens and not threatening anybody, have ever been considered an “attack” upon that nation?
No?
Found cites for international law or custom how a nation which was never threatened, never believed itself to be threatened and responds hours after the “threat” is over is acting in “self defense”?
No?
Found a coherent argument to show how the detailed logical and fatual chain I established to prove that NK’s attack was a war crime is, in any particular, incorrect, rather than lying and claiming that I’d provided no evidence at all?
No?
Found a retraction yet for your earlier lie that I ever claimed that NK’s account of events jived with my understanding of them?
No?
Found a retraction yet for your earlier lie that when you said that NK’s account of events was factual, that you hadn’t actually made up your mind yet?
No?
Found a retraction yet for your earlier lies about how you approached the topic without bias and emotion, and how my links were in any way inaccurate, when they clearly showed you ranting and raving about “imperial puppets” and “the Empire”?
No?
Shall I point out all the other proven instances where you have shown yourself to be an ignorant liar and a troll?
But of course you know that you were wrong, ignorant and dishonest and I was not, which is why you’ve been unable to cite anything that exonerates you or condemns me. Which is why you’re a liar and and troll, and you claim that it’s all the other people who are lying, and yet you can neither provide cites nor rebut the facts when you’re shown to be lying (again).
One of the two of us lives in a country about which he is seething with frothing rage, whose basic values, people and government he wants to see fall and be replaced with fascism and yet who suckles at its teat and enjoys the protection it offers.
(Hint: it’s not me)
There’s an old Russian saying that I don’t know a word of because it’s in Russian. However it’s English translation is: “if 10 people call you an idiot, go lay down”. It gives you a chance to think things over with a fresh head.
Just a thought, Commissar.
And instead embraced a North Korean monster who murders his own people through starvation, and firing squads for incompetence and malice.
As well as murders South Koreans because someone made splashy in empty water.
Also, it’s the Red Army of Workers and Peasants (Raboche-Krest’yanskaya Krasnaya Armiya) you sad excuse for a troll.
Hey Commissar.
As long as we’re talking about the glorious might of the Red Army, could you give us your perspective on the Winter War of 30 November 1939 to 13 March 1940?
I’d love to hear the real story.
Yeah, but trucks and telephones and canned food and aluminum were all Soviet inventions that were stolen by the Americans in the first place!
What would you like to know about it? It was a silly war, and a bit harder than we had anticipated, but ultimately resulted in us coming out on top, so all is well.
None of the difficulties we experienced during this excursion undermine my position as to the might of the glorious Red Army. For one, the war took place shorty after Stalin did his best to decimate the army’s officer corps. As you know, I am not a fan of Stalin; his crimes against the people do not reflect a weakness within the military.
Moreover, the Finns widely used guerrilla tactics, which tend to be pretty effective against large heavily-armed forces. Why, just this morning I was very pleased to read that 6 Imperial occupiers had been justly killed by the Afghan freedom fighters: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11975682 In fact, this January looks like it’s well on its way to becoming the tenth record-breaking month in terms of occupier deaths this year: http://icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx Would you say that this reflects a weakness within the Imperial military?
Finally, do keep in mind that we eventually got what we wanted. The Finns broke and signed a peace treaty on our terms. Finland’s second-largest city and more than 10% of its overall territory were ceded to the USSR. We still control said territories. All things considered, splendid job on the part of the Red Army.
Trolling 101: when shown to be full of shit, if possible, immediately change the subject to some sort of inflammatory and totally unrelated subject. “Hahaha, your soldiers are dying in a conflict half a century after the one I’ve been shown to be full of shit about, and I’ll distort what that conflict is actually about, too!” usually works well.
(Remember, Afghanistan is obviously a war of aggression and its brave totalitarian freedom fighters are in the right, even though Commy has zero facts to back that up and has not provided a single judicial decision to confirm it. North Korea having committed a war crime in its recent attack on South Korea is a ludicrous claim and has “absolutely no support” and is “pulled from one’s ass” despite a cogent and coherent chain of logic that’s fully cited, because it has no judicial decision to confirm it.)
Says the parasite troll who claims to be a US citizen.
Might? Seriously? One of my relatives fought Russians (from behind a machine gun) who were armed with fucking sticks. How can you possibly claim any sort of moral authority when you support systems (like the DPRK or the USSR) that survive solely by treating their own people as if their lives don’t matter?
Oh, right, FinnAgain reminded me. How do you rationalize supporting the Afghani insurgents against the NATO mission, but not against (say) your beloved Soviets?