My brother-in-law has bought a boat that was damaged in a storm earlier this year while it was docked in a marina. It needs extensive repairs but will eventually be seaworthy. He wants to give the boat a new name which tells the story of its past: how it was a wreck that rose again like a phoenix from the ashes. Is there an account in any mythology of a “marine phoenix”? Can anyone suggest a good name that comes from myth, legend or anywhere at all?
There’s an folk song about a boat being rased by her crew after her captain abandoned her, the name is Mary Ellen Carter (rise again, riseagain, that her name not be lost to the concience of men, like the Mary Ellen Carter rise again)
There was also a US Sub named the Squalis which sank in the late 30’s. During the 2nd WW when the US was experienceing a Sub shortage in the Pacific it was raised (hopefull had the dead bodies taken out) and renamed the Sail Fish (though the crew knew what had happened to it and always called it the “Squailfish”
Whatever you do, do NOT name it “Solitare” half the boats out there are called Solitare. The best boat name i ever heard was “Wet Dream” (what, it makes sence…) and named my own Stone Free (Jimi song)
Other boats i know of and can remember at the moment that have been resurected are the Victory, the Constitution, the Hiada, the Sackville, Wasa (or Vasa), Marie Celest (spooky story there…), and, an onld friend of mine, the Black Duck.
Several of the battleships sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor were re-floated and went on to finish the war, notably the California. She, along with other Pearl veterans, managed to extract some small amount of revenge at the Battle of Surigao Straight, where she helped sink the battleships Fuso and Yamashiro.
Or, you can have a brand new one built under the guise of “refurbishing” the old, actually use a couple of the old pieces, and name it the Constellation.
Thank you - that’s great so far. I can’t wait to show my brother-in-law a printout when he gets back from holiday. It’s also great that no-one mentioned River or Joaquin.
I’m definitely capping the T tonight. And with a name like Upham, I suppose you are, too.
After citing my suggestion to G. Nome, I got totally sucked back into an article on Leyte Gulf.
Interestingly, the California actually benefitted from its sinking, as it was refitted with a sophisticated fire-control radar upon being rebuilt, which allowed it to heap dozens of tons of shellfire before many of the other battlewagons could acquire targets. One of the other Pearl veterans, Maryland, zeroed in on the miss-splashes from the West Virginia which were tall enough to appear on its own radar, while the Japanese ships were invisible. West Virginia was the other “sinker” from Pearl who was there, and also had the best radar.
As a clarification, the Yamashiro was literally broken in half by torpedoes before it could fully fall into the American trap; but the Fuso bought it hard at the hands of its contemporaries, the old battleships.
But hey, this is G. Nome’s thread. 'Nome, please don’t name a boat West Virginia. It’s never seen the sea. And, it’s a nice place, but you wouldn’t want to live there.
hahaha, good call on the name man. I always heard it as Crossing your T, but anyway it was outdated by Jutland…
The thing that always pissed me off about Pearl Harbor is none of the Aircraft Carriers were there and all that was in harbor were ships like the Nevada… kinda run down old battlewagons with the basket weave mast. I’ve heard the Americans had broken the Japanese Purple code and didn’t want it too look so
How do i get ahold of you with out hijacking other people’s threads?
Upham
Ye Gods, man, are you daft? You never, ever rename a boat, it’s bad luck!! And if you must, never end a boat’s name in the letter “A”, or she’s bound for Davey Jones locker for sure. A few others:
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[li]Never whistle in the wheelhouse, you could whistle up a storm.[/li][li]Say your prayers if you find a sewing pin aboard – it can cause your hull to leak, your lines to break or your nets to rip open.[/li][li]Never throw a mop or bucket overboard.[/li][li]Never eat bananas aboard a boat.[/li][li]Words that should never be spoken while at sea include: egg, knife, minister and church. Never, ever have a clergyman aboard your boat. In fact, you’ll court certain disaster if he even stands next to it.[/li][li]Don’t cut your fingernails or hair while under way. A deadly storm surely will follow. Also, if you cut your hair during a rising tide, you’ll catch a cold.[/li][li]If a blue vein runs across the bridge of your nose, you may drown, unless you were born on a Sunday, in which case you’re in the clear.[/li][/ul]
In Ranma 1/2 the movie (An anime flick), The character Kuno has at his disposal a “Family vessel” (It turns out to be a tiny little rowboat) called Sub-Dragon the 5th. (If I remember correctly)
I always thought that was a cool name for a boat. Even if you didn’t have 1 through 4.
Never spit into a wind, one you get your own back and two you get becalmed.
Never do anything important in the building and commissioning of a ship on a friday, this is very bad luck.
I heard a tale of the Royal Navy deciding to put this tale to rest by breaking all these rules from signing the order for construction, laying the keel, and launching on fridays.
It was even named HMS Friday.
It sank on its maiden voyage.
Here is one version, halfway down the page,
Thank you very much for your help. I’ll print this out now and make use of it.
Although my imagination is undoubtedly working overtime the boat looks to me a little bit like the one Natalie Wood met her death on. There was a picture of it in Vanity Fair recently. If I was going to be superstitious at all (in keeping with the seafarers here) it would be to hope my sister doesn’t have one hissy fit too many at sea.