Nancy Pelosi claims Hillary was a victim of sexism, accompanied by other babbling

Huckabee was generally regarded as prolonging the inevitable and wasting time when he refused to quit.

Pretend I spent 1200 words comparing the Democratic and Republican nominating processes here. For my part I’ll say that as the contest went on, Hillary had a better chance of catching up than Huckabee did, but still a very slim one that the TV news tended to exaggerate.

That’s true. And if Barack Obama was white, it would have gone quite differently as well. If you make any major change to a politician’s identity, of course the election’s going to play out differently. I’m confident the 1980 election would have been very different if Ronald Reagan had been an outed, and flamboyantly queer, homosexual.

And if a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass a-hoppin’.

Here’s a recent analysis piece referring to Hillary’s “dogged persistence and toughness” in staying in the race to the bitter end.
Also check out USA Today editorials of June 4th and 5th referring to her “enormous tenacity” in delaying the inevitable, and her “grittiness”.

There has been much additional admiring commentary to this effect in various columns and news stories. This wasn’t the only spin on her behavior, to be sure, but I truly doubt the pundits would have been so eager to emphasize the “toughness” of a male candidate who put self ahead of party in this way.

I would deride your lack of knowledge on this score, but I don’t want to be accused of being “cretinist”. :slight_smile:

Oh, look. You tried to make a funny and you fucked it up. How sad.

But surely you could have dug up just as many commentaries painting her as stubborn and obstructionist. And note also that I asked for two citations, the second one being for your assertion that the commentary trends more to the negative for male candidates in similar situations.

You think it was “enraged” misspelled, don’t you?

Boy, talk about a whoosh.

Home, home on derange…

Cite, cite and cite?

And when you’re done with that, kindly provide a summary of all relevant coverage with footnotes and links to determine quantitatively and qualitatively the justifications for your dingbat conclusions, many thanks.

Prediction: If McCain somehow pulls it out of his ass we will be facing four more years here of America is racist! America is against women!

Christ I hope the Democrats win just so they will shut the hell up. Of course this will never happen but one can hope.

For a daily, exhaustive critique of the media with an emphasis on Clinton/Gore?Kerry bashing there is not better source than The Daily Howler.

One thing that hasn’t been hashed over much is the possibility that Hilary lost because of her hawkish stances (saying she’d “obliterate Iran” if they attacked Israel, votes for war in Iraq and labeling the Iranian guard a terrorist organization), and that she ONLY said these things because she believed that, as a women, she couldn’t afford to look a tiny bit soft on anything military. So instead she turned herself into Lieberman in drag.

The one thing that gave Obama his kick-start was his ability to separate himself from the pack over his opposition to the Iraq war. He appeared to be the only politician running for the Democratic nomination that noticed that the war was extremely unpopular. Hilary might have been against it too, because she was a typical scared-of-Republican-“Dems-are-pacifists”-slurs Democrat and a woman she put herself in a box.

Thank you. I used to keep ipecac around, to induce violent projectile vomiting in case of accidental poisoning. It will no longer be necessary.

Y’know, if that getup was her idea of being in drag she didn’t have Maury Povich’s show, broadcast from her “home” state of New York, playing in the campaign bus. He has the finest drag queens on his show.

What has me confused about this “Hillary was defeated by sexism” meme is that, in my lifetime, crowds lynched black men for being black men but the only people killing white women for being white women were a few serial killers. Honest to God, Americans, as a group, like our white women a whole lot more than we like our black men. Pelosi should know this. Clinton should know this. And Clinton’s die-hard supporters should know this. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

But what do we(the general we) like our white women for? Cooking, cleaning, sex and knowing her place. That is the basis of the sexism claims, we want our women for those things and not for being President.

Meh. What do we want black people for? The Pro Bowl and the Grammys.

Racism was certainly a factor in the election as well. I have no quarrel with that. That does not change the fact that sexism was also a factor. In reading the article it doesn’t sound like they asked Speaker Pelosi about Obama and racism, they asked about Clinton and sexism so that is what she answered.

No, you’re the one who first introduced a claim about how often Clinton was portrayed negatively for staying in the race. You made the argument that she was praised more than she was derided. A few selected examples of praise doesn’t support that assertion. Your point is based on comparing the relative prevalence of two phenomena; therefore you must show not just that one occurs but that it occurs more often than the other, unless your intent is merely to blow smoke rings out your bunghole.

You’re right, it will never happen. i didn’t notice the Republicans shutting the hell up after 2002.

Now, now–they only spoke up when it really mattered, like reminding us just how much all those lefties out there hated America. That’s a public service!

Right, but we’ve moved on to discussing whether a white woman is more or less electable than a black man.

I just gotta say, I love this comment. It sounds so nice and professional…you almost miss the dingbat comment the first time around.