No, sorry MGibson and Stoid, I don’t agree. If anything, this sort of action is MORE reprehensible because the ‘body’ is not able to offer any resistance or fightback to the attackers. It is more vile because it desecrates the sanctity of the ‘pure’ soul, whether or not it ‘inhabits’ the physical body or not. The ‘person’ may have gone, but the damage is done regardless.
I think South African thugs raping living babies as a supposed cure for AIDS is worse than this. But this is still pretty bad.
They’ll probably get psychiatric counseling instead of being burned alive, which would be just.
I think all child molestation is evil. The fact that this was done to a child’s corpse does not make it less evil. Call it desecration of the body or what have you, it’s sick and twisted. Add on the trauma to the family of being suspected of the abuse…these transport employees should be shot.
That’s where we’ll just have to agree to disagree I guess. I’m of the opinion that after you die your body is so much worm food so I much prefer that the child’s was molested when she was dead than alive.
Course, I’m talking worse and worser, not bad and good (if you follow).
You could argue it’s “better” for the child if it’s done after death, but either way, for the family, it’s devastating.
Plus, if they do this to a corpse, who knows what they’ve done to live children?
Look up Marc Dutroux and tell me that it is worse than if she’d been alive.
Utterly ghastly and perverse desecration this may be, but how could it be worse???
As the father of a toddler, this is probably the sickest thing I have ever heard about. Yes, I agree that I would be beyond angry if my child were touched while alive, but that is a different kind of sick. This is a kick them while they’re down kind of sick. This is, even after reading the title of the OP, shocking to the core of humanity kind of sick. The perpatrators, like the majority of child molestors, will most likely reoffend in an escalated manner if let off with a slap on the wrist.
I fear what could be worse.
This is sick, yes.
Comparable in anyway to hurting a hair on the head of a live child, no.
As traumatic and emotionally disturbing as it may be for family members, no one is physically being hurt. This crime, while definitely a crime (“mutilation of human remains,” by the sounds of the article), ranks rather low on my totem pole of heinous crimes. This was no different than if they had been taking organs out of corpses without permission. Wrong, but less than horrific.
The fact that the body was used for sex is gross and twisted, but it’s not a crime to be gross and twisted. Mutilation of human remains is all it was and all it should be treated as.
NurseCarmen, I’d question whether or not these people are actually child molesters. After all, they did not molest any children. Implying that they are going to go out and find live children now (or may already be doing so) as some people are suggesting is just plain unsubstantiated by any information in the article.
I would submit that anyone who would do this to a child’s corpse has no brakes on their compulsions, and I wouldn’t put it past them to do anything.
See, even when I know it’s going to be bad, I still click the fucking link.
This story is horrific! Absolutely terrible. I can’t imagine what the family went through. And I don’t know if I just read it wrong, but after they cleared the parents, they then examined to see if any of the other children could have been responsible. How’s that for fucking with your head? Being an 8 year old child being investigated because you possibly could have raped your little sister and caused her death?!
You want to argue over whether it’s a body or a person still, go right ahead, it’s disgusting either way…but what this has done to their family is outright HORRENDOUS!! There’s no way this family will recover from this, and these two sickos have done more damage than they will ever know. For the heartache they’ve caused the family ALONE, they deserve to be locked away for life. One dead body, seven ruined lives…
I don’t know, if upon further investigation they find out these two have done this shit before, would you want them to disclose the information? I’m rather shocked they put the family’s name in there as well, but I assume this is going to get some pretty big coverage in the local news of the area, so it’s not terribly suprising.
Utterly disgusting…
Throw me into Stoid’s and MGibson’s camp. Sure, it’s nasty and depraved and cruel to the family, but it’s definitely nowhere near on par with actual molestation of a living, breathing kid. At the risk of sounding heartless, I’ve always considered a corpse to be an “object”… an object that has great symbolism and emotional representation to the deceased’s loved ones, true, but an inert, inanimate object nonetheless.
I think it’s so sad that no matter what sort of depravity we present to the dopers, they can never just admit it’s horrible, trying desperately to come up with something that would be worse.
The sickening truth is, there are limitless horrors in the world, and unfortunately we don’t need to reserve our disgust for a select few. I am sickened by the rape of infants, the molestation of live children, the molestation of live children…all of it. :sad:
jar, I think you’re misreading the intent of some of us who are “trying desperately to come up with something that would be worse.”
It’s comments like this:
…that made me post.
I’m not arguing that it’s not torturous to the parents and family of the child, but simply that the heinousness of the crime is far from that of people who victimize actual living people. Yes, this sickens me, and I agree that it is sad. But, it seems ridiculous to me that people would argue that violating a corpse is in anyway comparable to violating a human being.
Actually, I’m thinking more of someone who posted “there are people in Africa who rape babies and THAT’S WORSE”. I mean, why can’t we just take one horror at a time?
It’s like a “Can You Top This” of what’s wrong with our world…
Some of you people are downright heartless. I’m disgusted and outraged by your callousness. You know, we have a doper whose 7 year old daughter died a month or so ago. They live in or around the same county where this vile and disgusting crime took place. If Roadwalker had come here and posted that they’d discovered his daughter’s body had be desecrated in such a sickening way, would any of you DARE to say, “well, it was just a corpse, afterall. How bad could it really be compared to if she’d have been alive?”
FUCK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DIRTBAG CREATURES.
As a matter of fact, these scum DID “victimize actual living people”… this child’s parents! They now have to live with the nightmare image of the embodiment of their CHILD being violated! No violation of a human being, my ass.
I still prefer that if the girl was to be molested, that it happened to her after she was beyond the point of experiencing that horror. If that makes me a “DIRTBAG CREATURE” then so be it.
I wonder how many of you who are saying, “It’s not as bad as if she’d been alive” have children.
I have two. The thought of anyone laying a hand on them, either before or after death, turns me into a rabid mama grizzly bear.
They’re my children. Touch them, and you die.
Saying one thing is worse, is not saying the other is OK. Try to grasp the idea that even though some are saying it would have been worse if she was alive during the ordeal, they do not mean that after death isn’t also horrific.
I guess if I had the choice of preventing one of these two things :
(a) Someone molesting a child’s corpse
(b) Someone molesting a live child
Then I’ll press the ‘B’ button, no question. I’m sure anybody would.
But in a completely different way, sexually violating the body of a dead child is a hundred times worse. I can’t quite articulate why - I’ll have to think about it some more - but there it is.