New Matrix:Revolutions trailer, discuss. (Warning, Mega-Spoilers)

There’s a new Matrix:Revolutions trailer out today. I heard about on Slashdot. I recommend downloading BitTorrent and using that to get the movie because the Time Warner server was buckling from the Slashdot effect when I got it this morning and I could never grab more than 2MB before the connection was dropped.

Some interesting things:

  • Neo wakes up on the surgery bay table, but he’s wearing his inside-the-Matrix clothing.

  • His Matrix clothing is different now, it’s a suit. Rather depressing looking, but Keanu Reeves does say the third movie is about death.

  • My hypothesis is that Smith and Neo are somehow transforming into one another. Neo’s got new clothes. Smith, in the bit where he’s laughing maniacally in the Oracle’s kitchen, seems to have a slightly different face.

  • Smith’s enunciation of “Mr. Anderson, welcome back, we’ve missed you” and Neo’s “It ends, tonight” is different than in the teaser shown after Reloaded, suggesting this scene happens multiple times.

  • Though the teaser and the trailer show Neo and Smith flying away from each other after hitting each other, a publicity shot appearing in magazines shows them standing next to each other and Smith staggering as if from a blow.

I’m a bit sad to see the trailer doesn’t mention anything that relates to Fishburne’s assertion that Morpheus is like Darth Vader in the third movie…

Anyone know who the freakish looking dude with the long hair and bad teeth was in the teaser shown after Reloaded? I think he’s Thomas Anderson’s visitor from the first movie (to whom Anderson gives the illegal disk), but he looks as if he’s gone mad now.

UnuMondo

Well, I agree that it’s different, but I don’t think it suggests that at all. Just editing differences or whatever. The Warner Bros. site appears to be fine now. Here’s a direct link to the download page.

I have to watch this a few more times…

I’m not so sure. If it is the exact same scene, that would mean they’re using a new take. It’s very rare for a movie to show one take in the teaser and another in the trailer considering that the movie was already finished by the time the teaser appeared.

Even the camera angle of the shot of Smith’s face as he says “Welcome back, we’ve missed you” is different from the teaser.

UnuMondo

Okay, you may be right about that. I’m not ready to come to that conclusion, though.

I don’t know why you think that’s the surgery bay table. It could be any old surface, as far as I can tell. I think it’s probably within the Matrix, or possibly the Source, because we later see Neo (in the same outfit) hugging Trinity (in her Matrix outfit) in what could be the same room.

However, when he’s fighting Smith in the rain, and later when he jumps over Smith flying through a hole in the wall, he’s not wearing that black suit. Or if he is, he has another coat over it. That one scene might be the only time Neo wears the suit of black.

Is this voice we hear in the trailer the Oracle? It sounds like something she’d say. And whom do you think she’s referring to? “You are all that stands in his way. If you cannot stop him tonight, then I fear that tomorrow may never come.”

It could be the new Oracle. As the actress who played the Oracle died before shooting on Revolutions began, she probably isn’t in the third film. The game “Enter the Matrix” is canon, and it introduced a new look of the Oracle. Since she’s software, she can chance her appearance.

UnuMondo

Yes, in Enter The Matrix the Oracle is played by Mary Alice. She’s not credited for Revolutions at IMDb, though, and nobody else is credited for the Oracle. I didn’t play Enter The Matrix; is the voice from the trailer roughly what she sounds like?

Right around 00:20, there’s a quick montage of images. Two that I thought were interesting were: Neo taking off like he did twice in Reloaded, wearing what appears to be his robe from Reloaded, though I can’t be sure. And, Bane waking up.

Neo’s not taking off, he’s just jumping against the wall so he can bounce off and pound someone (like he did during the Burly Brawl). The teaser shows the entire backflip against the wall.

Neo only raises one arm as he’s taking off, in accordance with Superman tradition. :wink:

UnuMondo

I should mention I heard an interesting theory (maybe in the 10+ page thread here on the SDMB) that the disc Anderson gave to the visitor in the first movie may have had some key to it all on it. This could be why the gang heads back to the nightclub in the third movie.

Also, there was a magazine article a while back, before Reloaded premiered, that talked about an upcoming scene at a BDSM-type club owned by the Merovingian. The writer must have thought she was spoiling something from the upcoming second film, but it looks like this is a bit from the third!

UnuMondo

Yeah… you’re right. Okay, so that’s not so interesting after all.

Are you saying that the club that Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph raid is the same as the one where Trinity met Neo? I don’t have it on hand to compare.

I think so, and I’ve seen this conjecture at many other speculative Matrix sites.

Another interesting thing, look at the scrolling text at the end. It’s made up of mostly 8’s and 4’s in both Arabic numerals and Japanese characters. Could this mean something?

UnuMondo

Are the credits at IMDB reliable for a movie that hasn’t premiered yet?

UnuMondo

I don’t think so… the shots LOOK identical to me. My bet would be that Hugo Weaving did some more audio looping between the first and second trailer (hardly a rare occurrence), and the “we missed you” line is one that was changed. A pity, too… I loved the old version. The new one lacks the tone of menacing mockery that the old had.

Ah well.

Ooh, am I excited like a little girl. Well, maybe not exactly like a little girl.

Three things that stand out to me:[ul][li]Baddies appear to have the drop on Seraph in the parking garage.[]It seems as though the cupboards in the kitchen are thoroughly ransacked.[]The Oracle does not seem to be physically present.[/ul]These things, together with the tone of the Oracle’s apostrophe, suggest that my prediction in the big-assed Reloaded thread that Revolutions would largely be about rescuing an imprisoned Oracle from the Architect and his Agents is not far off the mark.[/li][quote]
And they have repaid me with all these wicked things, because I have believed in the light of the height; and they have made my power to be without light.
But when I was compelled, I sat in the darkness, while my soul was humble in sorrow.
And, O Light, concerning whom I sing praises to thee, save me ; I know that thou wilt save me, because I have done thy will since I was in my aeon. -Pistis Sophia
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(If the above quote seems like a total non-sequitur, see my embarrassingly voluminous posts in the big-assed thread about the influence of Gnostic mythos in The Matrix, which start here.)

Also, the room in which Trinity and Neo embrace has the word MOBIL---- stencilled on on the wall. Can anyone make any inferences about where they might be?

A great trailer-- lots of eye-candy, no significant spoilage.

Japanese 4 has connotations of death (shares a similar pronunciation or somesuch, thus “unlucky”). Relevant? I dunno.

Heya Larry! I for one enjoyed your posts in the other thread immensely, and believe you have found the key reference.

Perhaps revelent in that the third film is supposed to be about death.

An interesting thing about the trailer is that aside from Smith, there are no agents. Morpheus, Trinity, and Seraph are up against the servants of the Merovingian, but nowhere do we see the usually business suited sunglass-wearing agents. :confused:

Morpheus and Trinity are apparently going to rescue not the Oracle, but Neo. In the Super Bowl trailer, Trinity holds a gun on the Merovingian and tells him “You give me Neo or we all die right here right now”.

UnuMondo

I’m taking the day off of work when this comes out, and I’m watching the first two immediately before I go.

Anyone else doing the same?

No of course not. Sorry if I gave that impression. I was just looking for a clue, and that’s often a good place to find one. :slight_smile:

Someone posted in the huge 10+ page thread a couple of months ago about a Matrix computer game soon to come which takes place after the third film. The suggestion is that the Matrix still exists after the end of the trilogy. I really hope that the trilogy isn’t just to set up a franchaise that will milk consumers for years to come with no real resolution…

UnuMondo

I hope you don’t think that just because we don’t get a solid denouement, the trilogy is nothing but a moneymaking tool. It’s possible for a story to say a lot without a “real resolution”.

I thought she was referring to Agent Smith. It does show a close up of all those Smiths when she says “You are all that stands in his way.” Maybe the person she is talking to is Neo.