New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Yep, I looked at your Armory just now and we’re very similarly geared. I’m at 47.7K unbuffed, and close to 70K raid buffed. I can hit 80K with Vampiric Blood up. You’ve got me by 6 Gearscore points. :smiley: (Damn rassninfrassin’ Black Heart that I can’t seem to get rid of–when I cheat and put in my 277 Corpse Tongue Coin I can really boost the ol’ score, but that thing is crap.) :stuck_out_tongue:

You guys should have no trouble at all two-tanking at your gear level, which frees up another DPS for a faster kill. :slight_smile:

Wow. The last fight in H OK is a lot harder to heal than I would have thought - walked into it with maybe 2/3 of my mana and I ended up using shadowfiend plus hymn of hope after the first insanity - and barely managed to get the tank and others healed up before the second round of insanity started.

It shouldn’t be all that tricky unless the tank is poorly geared. The damage is nominal during the standard phase, then in Insanity you as the healer just focus on keeping yourself alive while the DPS and tank kill their images so they can help you out.

Granted, that’s a fight where being a Holy Pally comes in useful. Plate armor + Sacred Shield = laughing contemptuously at the feeble little images. I usually lay down Consecration and have them all down to half health by the time a teammate steps in to help.

Maybe I should have just concentrated on keeping myself alive - probably would have saved some mana that way. Psychic Scream probably would have gone a long way. Instead I mind seared the crap out of them and ended up helping out the DPSes.

Yeah, that’s definitely the way to go. It may feel like you’re not doing your part, but if you die trying to fight them off the rest of the team will be hurting afterward, and I haven’t run with a team yet that can kill him before two Insanities go off.

I ran it once on Nahren and had read a strategy where a resto druid could go into bear form and tough it out that way. That didn’t work and I died hard. The next time I went in with Nahren, I focused on keeping my own health up and everyone came out of the fight alive. Healers are very hard to kill (most of the time), and the phantoms really don’t do that much damage.

Yep. Whenever I’m in there on my priest, I bubble just before Insanity finishes casting (to reduce the length of time Weakened Soul is up). Then I Renew myself, wait until the images are more or less within range, and scream. Sometimes I’ll run closer to the casters before Psychic Screaming and running away as much as possible. Some of them will resist it, but the more you can grab, the better.

Keep yourself bubbled and hotted up, and don’t stop running. I generally only need to scream twice before one of my group pops back out to help. Although I think I’ve generally had two Insanities, but I don’t think I’ve gotten to 3 for a long time.

:)Next stop: HP. :slight_smile:

Thanks,

Q

Who trains skinners after 300?, because we’re in HP and killing boars and not getting credit.

Oh and BTW, we’re dropping fishing. Too impatient, I guess. :slight_smile:

Q

Re Insanity: Shield, Scream, HoTs. I do try to hit everyone with PW:Pain though just for fun.

Go to Jelena Nightsky in Honor Hold for Master Skinning. Also, at that level, you may have to skin two or three animals to get the point. It’s not 1 for 1 anymore. It never gets as bad as fishing, but it can be frustrating if you don’t know it’s going to happen.

Don’t drop fishing. Having it still there doesn’t hurt anything and if you decide later that you want to keep it up, it’s going to be twice as painful leveling it up again.

Last I checked it wasn’t even possible to drop fishing(or cooking and first aid), so in this case I don’t think we have to worry about Quasi making a mistake. :slight_smile:

Ah, ok. I never tried to drop a secondary skill so I wasn’t sure if it was possible or not.

Quiet raiding night yesterday… So to speak. :stuck_out_tongue: We just downed LK and then called it. (The GM just got a new job and wanted to head out to celebrate, and the other RL wasn’t online.) I grabbed myself an ICC10 PUG–hilariously, we one-shot everything up to Gunship… which we then wiped on. The only time I’ve ever, ever wiped on Gunship. I toggled Heroic for it, but of course it failed to drop the damned shield I wanted. Sigh.

Things got less quiet during Saurfang–literally. With probably about ten percent to go, I suddenly hear a piercing “EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.” It’s coming from the smoke/etc. alarm in my room. I scrabble around, trying to figure out what’s going on, popping back to my desk every few seconds to manage the last couple of tank swaps. As soon as Saurfang is dead, I tell them sorry, but I have to AFK to figure out what the hell is going on.

Pulling the battery out of the alarm doesn’t do anything to stop the noise. I grab my purse and open the door–only to see all the alarms in the hallway flashing and also screaming that lovely, loud, high-pitched drone. Sigh. So I head down the stairs and out the door to the courtyard by the firepit. I call my friend Joe (my pocket healer), tell him what’s going on, and ask him to please let the RL for my ICC10 run know what’s up and that I have no clue when I’ll make it back in, so they should feel free to try to replace me if they can.

Walked around outside for a while, talking to Joe. I’d heard sirens shortly after leaving the building, and I found them around the front when I walked that way. I stood out there to see what would happen, and the firefighters told it was safe to go back inside in fairly short order. (I don’t think I was outside for more than 15 minutes.) However, they apparently were unable to shut the alarm off. So while I was gratified to see that my raid hadn’t kicked me while I was gone–they just started clearing Plague Wing trash–I had to stuff in a couple of earplugs to cut down the terrible alarm squeal. So I couldn’t hear anything on Vent, and I sure as hell wasn’t about to hit my PTT and subject them to the sound of it. Hahaha.

We killed Festergut with no problems, and then decided to try Rotface on Heroic. There were a few kinks to work out; unfortunately, on the second attempt, one of the DPS somehow thought the RL had told him to pull, and I wasn’t ready yet, which meant that RF ripped through half the raid before I even had a chance to try to pick him up. Two people immediately ragequit, a DPS and a healer, which pretty well screwed us for getting much else done. We managed to fill the slots (and nine-manned RF on regular, since one of the original DPS went AFK and we got sick of waiting), but by the time we got to BPC, I decided to bow out after two attempts. It was clear that we’d be able to kill them if we had the time, but it was a quarter to midnight my time, and I needed to get to bed.

What’s your other trinket? If you don’t have an ICC HP-based one, I’d expect you to be running with the Frost badge trink and either regular or Heroic Satrina’s Impending Scarab. I can’t imagine you don’t have the badge trink at this point–are you running ToC/ToGC25 every week to try to get the Scarab to drop? (Wouldn’t be too surprised if you were but had just never seen it–took forever to get it for me, and I’ve never even seen the Heroic version.)

Woohoo! It sure does feel good to hit those profession bonus milestones. :smiley:

Fishing is a huge PITA to level, it’s true. :smiley: A couple of things, however:

1.) Once you’ve learned the secondary professions (Cooking, Fishing, and First Aid) you can’t ever un-learn them. You don’t have to level them, and they don’t hurt you at all by being there.

2.) Although it’s still tedious, Fishing isn’t as hard as it used to be. There are two reasons for this:

-You can fish anywhere in the world, regardless of your Fishing level. The only difference is that if your Fishing is too low for the zone, you’ll catch trash instead of fish or other useful things.

-You always catch something, and you get credit even for trash. (You used to get “Your fish got away!” messages at least part of the time, which meant that the cast didn’t count toward your next point.)

Fishing can be something relaxing to do when you just want to kill some time, and there are even achievements associated with it. If you fish in the Dalaran sewers, you have a chance to fish up a pet rat. If you fish in the Dalaran fountain, you can fish up coins–fish up all of them, and you’ll get an achievement. If you fish in any school of fish in Northrend, you have a chance to fish up a turtle mount that goes at a walking speed on land but fast in the water.

Dunno if this is helpful for you, but my feral tank-druid runs with the Frost trink (Corroded Skeleton Key) and the Triumph trink (Glyph of Indomitability). Now, druid tanks do get a bigger bonus from the latter due to their armor-boost talent, but it’s still an option.

Also, if you catch something at least once in each of a list of fish schools (and debris patches), you get an achievement, also. I think there are separate achievements for fish schools in Outland and Northrend, and a combined achievement for floating debris overall.

I had to look that one up. Darn Alliance and their weird names anyway. :slight_smile: No, I don’t have Juggernaut’s Vitality. I don’t run ToC/ToGC25 much anymore because our guild doesn’t run it and 25-man TOC pugs make baby Jesus cry. My other trinket is the Corroded Skeleton Key. Black Heart is actually a pretty amazing trinket for its ilevel–Rawr shows it as being pretty high up there for my gear set. So I’m not complaining so much about the trinket, but rather about the fact that it really plays hell with my gear score.

Ferret Herder, Glyph of Indomitability wouldn’t be much use for me, unfortunately. Especially given that I have the 277-level Corpse Tongue Coin, which is pretty much the same thing only better. CTC is considered a bit of a joke in tank circles–it’s really sad that Blizzard crapped out on the ICC tank trinket (this is the only one available except for one that drops in 10 man and I’ve only seen that drop once).

I don’t remember the stats on that, but the fact that I don’t remember the stats probably means it’s a downgrade compared to what **winterhawk **already has (Stam über alles). If the main stat is straight-up Armor, that’s good, but still not *as *good as Stamina, especially for anyone who isn’t a Feral Druid, since Armor only helps against physical damage.

Blah, blah; get a *real *faction. :smiley:

There are still BIS items, especially trinkets, in ToGC25–I’m a little surprised your guild isn’t running it at all, even on off nights. If you can find a GDKP run on your server, you might get a better quality of player. Or you can start a PUG yourself and pre-screen everyone. (Bonus: You could reserve the trink for yourself.)

When I saw CTC drop, I didn’t even bother to roll on it. That’s how much avoidance trinkets blow.

I seem to recall that there’s a good one off Sindragosa–something like Stamina and magic resistance? I yet again curse my inability to look anything up from here. And what’s the one with the stacking Stam buff?

I have just 3 words to say

Cold. Weather. Flying. :smiley:

1/2 way to 78 now. Also have a rogue up to 23.

Woohoo! The best part is that you never have to go without flying in Northrend again, since now you can buy the Heirloom CWF book. (Of course, if the alt you want to give it to is on another server, you still have to pay the cash to transfer a mule. But IMO it’s totally worth it.)

Armour isn’t that awesome for ferals either, the bear form multiplier only apply to the base armour on leather these days.

Congratulations, almost there. :slight_smile: