New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

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When I checked - an hour ago, it told me I had a two hour and 5 minute wait till the next battle. You must have joined the one that was in progress at that time, Rik. Well, if you had fun in there, I oughta be able to get a handle on it, since you’re used to mor difficult stuff.

Also, (thinking ahead) I’m not going to be staying in WG forever, right? Will the next easiest raid be pretty much the same strategy (stay with group, etc), or will I be asked to take on a more important role, such as gasp, tanking?

Thanks

Q

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Well WG is pvp, staying with the group is a viable strategy for any pvp you want to do. Raids are a different animal, if you are a tank spec you might be expected to tank.

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Quasi–raiding and PVP are two very different things. In WG, your team is called a “raid group” because it’s easier for the software to deal with stuff that way, but it is not really a raid in any other sense.

You can join any of the battlegrounds and do much the same as you’re doing now–stay with the group, get in there and mix it up when you find Horde. You can even crank up Immigrant Song so you’re " …to fight the Horde, singing and crying Valhalla I am coming". (I have a macro with those lyrics that I use in BGs sometimes).

I think the easiest next step for you would probably be Warsong Gulch. It’s 10 vs 10, capture the flag. I don’t really care for WSG, but some people like it. First team to capture the other flag 3 times wins. To capture, your team has to go into the Horde base, steal their flag, and run it back to your own base, and retain control of your flag at the same time.

Arathi Basin is 15 vs 15 I think, and it has 5 locations that must be captured and defended. Each location awards points to the team that controls it as the game progresses. First team to 1600 points wins.
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Eye of the Storm** is sorta a combination of Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin. 4 locations to capture/defend, and a central flag to capture for bonus points. First team to 1600 (maybe 1500, not sure) wins.

Alterac Valley is my favorite of the older battlegrounds. It’s a large map, currently 40 v 40 players. Each side has a “king”, and if your king dies, you lose. There are also other NPC bosses to kill. You protect your bosses, kill the Horde bosses, kill Horde, destroy towers, and capture graveyards. Also, each side has a limited number of reinforcements. Having your own towers or npcs killed reduces your reinforcements, and when your team runs out, you lose.

Strand of the Ancients is one of the newer BGs. I like it a lot. You start out either attacking a fortress in a D-Day style beach assault, or defending the fortress. The team attacking first has a time limit in which to break into the fortress and destroy a relic. When the time is up or the relic is destroyed, the game restarts with the roles reversed. If the first attacking team succeeded, the second team has to do the same thing faster, or they lose. If the team attacking first fails to destroy the relic, the second team just has to destroy the relic within the time limit to win.
Isle of Conquest is sorta like a combination of Alterac Valley and Arathi Basin, with a hint of WG/Strand of Ancients in the mix. It’s a good sized island, and each side controls a fortress with a king. There are resource locations that can be captured and controlled for points and other advantages…vehicles of various types, even access to a blimp that circles the battle and can be used to bomb the other side or parachute into their fortress before the gates are destroyed. First team to kill the other king wins, or it can be decided on points, I think…not sure about that.
You are really not ready to try raid tanking yet. Before trying to tank for a raid, you need to learn how to tank for a group in dungeons. Since I don’t think you’ve done many dungeons yet, I’d recommend you start by queueing up as a DPS for regular (not heroic) 80 dungeons, or even some of the higher level 70 ones. SfG can prolly give you some basic warrior tanking tips. My warrior is under level 20, and only tanked Ragefire Chasm a couple of times more than a year ago.

You could try some raidng now, if you wanted. Easiest raid out there is VoA, which is available anytime Allies control WG. Again, que as DPS, not as a tank. You may get rejected from a few groups because your gear score is probably too low, but some groups may take you if they’re just filling out spots in a raid, knowing they have the firepower to down at least the Frost guy.

You may want to read up on the battlegrounds, VoA, or level 80 dungeons before trying them. You can watch a lot of the boss fights on YouTube to see how things go. Also WoW Wiki and similar sites have walkthroughs and strategies for pretty mcuh everything in the game.

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So WG is not a raid? IIRC, it is referred to as such in a drop down menu from one’s portrait where you choose different attributes, such as the colored symbol, etc?

Excuse me if I got that wrong. I’m trying to absorb as much as possible before going back in, so I may have some terminology confused…

Thanks

Q

ETA: Posted before seeing Oak’s detailed explanation. Please disregard.

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Ran out of edit window. I misspoke above…you do not que for raids. You get invited to join raids by other players organizing them, or you organize your own. You will see things in trade chat like “Looking for 2 mdps VoA 10”. This means the person speaking is organizing a raid on VoA, 10 man version, and needs two melee dps players to fill out his raid roster. Usually you send a tell to that person with your class and gear score. Since warriors can be tanks or dps, you’d want to specify that you are dps.

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Okay. Looks like that may be a little later in my warrior “career”, because I don’t think my gear score is all that good. Matter of fact, I got a wsp a couple of nights ago stating, “your gear is for shit”.

Question: Do y’all think that the addons Lightheaded and tomtom would be beneficial? I keep seeing “coords” on Thotbot and I wrote myself a post-it telling me what each number’s direction is, but if it’s ingame, wouldn’t that be better for me to find a particular quest area?

Thanks

Q

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I’m a total noob to this game in every respect (in fact I haven’t even played it yet), I have been wanting to play it but am unsure about getting into it so late in the game’s evolution cycle.

That said, on Yahoo’s front page was this: http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/113-warcraft-fan-schools-games-makers/

What do you guys make of that? Is this game buggy? Can anyone crystallize the experience for me? What type of game is it exactly?

I normally play FPS games on my PC like Crysis, COD, The Fallout series, Left For Dead, etc…would I like this game? Should I get it now or wait for a newer version?

Help!

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And while I ramble on (guitar riff…yeah…getting the Led out tonight)…ramble on…

In the battlegrounds that have vehicles, warriors make good drivers. I think their armor/hitpoints increases the same stats of the vehicle, and you don’t have much of a ranged attack anyway. You drive and operate the vehicle weapons…maybe a ranged attack and a close range trample-like ability also useful in battering down walls. Some vehicles can also carry passengers. (demolishers and siege engines in Strand of the Ancients and Isle of Conquest, dunno about WG) Ideally, you want to load up the vehicle you’re driving with 2 casters or hunters, so they can use ranged attacks on Horde trying to destroy your vehicle.

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I can’t help it…but everytime I see that video from now on…I’m gonna think of Der Trihs.

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I’m not a lore guy, so I don’t really care either way. But there are lots of players that do.

WoW is an MMORG…massively multiplayer online roleplaying game. It’s like AD&D on the internet, with live action animation, and no one “right way” to play. There are multiple fantasy races and classes to choose from…spell casters (like Gandalf, but actually worth a damn in a fight) Warriors (like Conan, or Sir Lancelot), Rogues (like Gord of Greyhawk, or the Grey Mouser–sneaky melee fighters), etc.

You create and control a character, and have a virtual world to explore and/or adventure in. You can fight glorious battles, roleplay, complete quests, earn treasure, and interact with thousands of other people doing the same thing. You can team up with others to do harder tasks…or fight others to see who’s the best. Or just because you’re feeling stabby. The more you play, the more rewards you earn…extra powers, better equipment, mounts, pets that do nothing but look cool. There are dungeons to loot, mountains to climb, rivers to swim, bars to get drunk, food to cook, trade skills to learn, sales to negotiate, fish to catch,dragons to slay.whatever you want to do in a fantasy environment is probably represented in some way.

If you like FPS, you might like the PvP aspects of WoW. Lot of twitchy fights, only with swords and spells instead of automatic rifles and grenades.

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So female Worgen dance is revealed to be provocative Lady Gaga dance complete with boob and crotch groping. People are shocked and somewhat appalled that a sexy dance goes with the female wolf.

In other news, amazing amount of WoW players have never heard of furries.

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Not the ones with tauren toons…

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Taurens are probably the Horde race least likely to be hit on, from what I’ve seen. Of course, I probably just haven’t run into a furry in-game yet…

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I was just annoyed it wasn’t the Bad Romance dance. That would have been a lot more fun.

Eheh.

I’d say that honor goes to the orcs, really.

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Erm, that should have been “no noticeable damage…” :smack:

When Cataclysm (the upcoming expansion, coming Dec. 7) arrives, that will be a perfect time to start playing the game. They’re completely revamping everything (well, from levels 1-60 anyway), so you won’t be behind the curve - it will be just as new for everybody else.

That’s awesome :smiley: The thing there is that the game world has a massive, detailed history/backstory, with hundreds of characters for the writers to keep track of. Some players (myself included) really enjoy that aspect of the game, and mistakes like that are really glaring (though I wouldn’t have noticed that particular error).

I’ll just say it’s the kind of game I’ve been waiting on since I started playing video games about 30 years ago. I always preferred story-based games (so never really got into FPS games, or really, any “blow stuff up” games), but one problem with story-based games is that they tended to be very linear, putting you on railroad tracks through the predetermined storyline. In the mid-1990s I found a Mac shareware game called Escape Velocity, a single-player space trading/semi-RPG game. I became completely hooked because it didn’t have a predetermined storyline. You started out with a tiny, poorly-armed shuttlecraft, and got punted out into the big galaxy to make your way. From there it was explore the galaxy and decide what you want to do with yourself. Work for the galactic government? Join the rebellion? Become a pirate? Try to get rich as a trader? You could do pretty much what you wanted, and your actions determined who was friendly or hostile toward you. It was simple, but I think it was ahead of its time. It was a proto-MMO (there were constant pleas to make it into an online, multiplayer game).

Anyway, MMORPGs in general (and WoW specifically) really expanded on the idea. I can create a character and do whatever I want to do. Love it.

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Nah, orc gals can have halfway decent faces, and pack some major booty, plus can dance like no one’s business. Tauren girls are big and hairy, and they line-dance. My husband and I, per our informal survey, believe that most tauren female characters are played by real-life women. Probably because they’re not cyber-bait.

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Concur, but that only serves to make them more interesting. :smiley:

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WoW is like campaign L4D with all of the junk TF2 gained in the last year thrown in and everyone is the dumbest pub ever, but it’s okay since you’re on normal instead of expert.

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There’re several options for player on player, but from what I hear, the pvp factor is a little less challenging than some other MMOs. We have a tournament season with 2v2, 3v2, and 5v5. We also have battlegrounds with teams from 10-40 people bashing away. We have open pvp servers where anything that’s red is free game.

You can also do things like engage in economic pvp with other players (each server has its own economy, a lot of which flows through the auction houses), pick flowers, explore a truly massive world with thousands of quests, chains, easter eggs, and lore. Oh, and you can kill dragons and demons too. :slight_smile:

I agree with Rik that Cata is a good time to start playing since you’ll be able to start with a lot more people at the same level.

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Here’s a video-plea for Blood Elf Druids. Cute dark haired gal, nice voice, and pointy ears.

I, Oakbrow Farwalker, Legend in my own Mind, formerly of Surefall Glade, presently of Darnassus, and most loyal servant of Karana, do hereby endorse this plea. Any world always needs more hippie chicks with pointy ears. So mote it be.