New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

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5081

A friend just sent me an email with a bunch of cross-faction communication stuff. Note that technically this is against the TOS, so using it could get you into trouble, especially if you do it a lot or in particularly annoying or abusive ways. This is a lot of text, so I’m putting it behind a spoiler.

[spoiler][Orcish]

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a g l l a n l n g ka haag ha ag ha ag no ag ha ag ko ka ko ka ko ka mu ka ko il no gi no gi nogi ha gi no gi mu il mu il mu il ko il mu ko ag ha ag ha

5859 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 8283 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104105
ha ag ha ka ko ka ko ka koil ko ka il no gi no gi no gi ha gi no no il mu il mu il mu ka mu il kaha ag ha ag ha ag no ag ha gul zug zug zug kaz kaz

109110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145146
kaz nuk aaz aaz aaz mog tarmog gul tar tar ogg kaz zug kil kil kil kaz lok kaz kaz kil ruk gul gulogg ogg ruk tar ruk gul aaz kek lok nuk lok nuk kek

Orcish: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Common: g g o l o a o o l n l n a o l n g n n l l l a n o g

Common: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Orcish: o e o y y e o y o e o o o o y u e y y y y y y y o e
[Gutterspeak]

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o e y e e e y y e ti

D a p Ee bb = you lose
D a p Xxx b Ss = you bore me
Ss Ee oo D a p A fff jj ss = Me love you overtime

an pp
any pp d
anyone pp d a zz
bore xxx b
borne clear
bury ggg d
ever b fff
every b fff d
everyone b fff d a zz
eye b d b
far hhh
loan ee pp
loose ee a bb
lose ee bb
love ee oo
me ss
mean ss pp
mere ss aa
mod eee
mode eee b
never zz fff
one a zz
over a fff
re aa
reverse aa fff bb
see bb b
severe bb fff b
tie jj b
time jj ss
use p bb
value cc hh b
very fff d
you d a p
erase b ddd b
evil b ppp
fare hhh b
hire bbb b
lover ee fff
meantime ss pp jj ss
overtime a fff jj ss
retire aa jj aa
reuse aa p bb
verse fff bb
vile ppp b
yeti d b jj

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
o e o y y e o y o e o o o o y u e y y y y y y y o e

aa bb cc dd ee ff gg hh ii jj kk ll mm nn oo pp qq rr ss tt uu vv ww xx yy zz
re se va ko lo se re lu re ti va ru va se ve an re se me lu an ti re ru re ne

aaa bbb ccc ddd eee fff ggg hhh iii jjj kkk lll mmm nnn ooo ppp qqq rrr sss ttt uuu vvv www xxx yyy zzz
gol hir hir ras mod ver bur far bur nud nud hir nud ver mod vil vil bur wos lon gol ras lon bor wos nud

aaaabbbb cccc dddd eeee ffff gggg hhhh iiii jjjj kkkk llll mmmm nnnn oooopppp qqqq rrrr ssss tttt uuuu vvvv wwww xxxx yyyy zzzz
odesuden odes odes ador vohl vrum thor thor thor vrum vohl odes thor thornuff goth vrum goth goth ador vohl ador vrum uden thor

[Taurahe]

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a i e e a n e n i o po te ni ba ta ne tu wa lo ta wa

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
i i o e o a o o e n e n a o e n i n n e e e a n o i

aa bb cc dd ee ff gg hh ii jj kk ll mm nn oo pp qq rr ss tt uu vv ww xx yy zz
no ne lo wa ta no ki ne ta wa ki no wa po ne po ni po ta te ne ne ni wa no tu

aaa bbb ccc ddd eee fff ggg hhh iii jjj kkk lll mmm nnn ooo ppp qqq rrr sss ttt uuu vvv www xxx yyy zzz
alo zhi zhi paw paw zhi paw paw zhi paw alo alo zhi zhi paw awa paw alo paw alo paw paw alo paw alo zhi

aaaabbbb cccc dddd eeee ffff gggg hhhh iiii jjjj kkkk llll mmmm nnnn oooopppp qqqq rrrr ssss tttt uuuu vvvv wwww xxxx yyyy zzzz
manibalo mani mani shte awak halo a’ke a’ke a’ke halo awak mani a’ke a’keshne tawa halo tawa tawa shte awak shte halo balo a’ke

[Troll]

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n m u e n o u h e u di fu so yu yu ju fu yu fi fu fu

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
m n j e h n a h j u a a m a h n o h h s e e e h j u

aa bb cc dd ee ff gg hh ii jj kk ll mm nn oo pp qq rr ss tt uu vv ww xx yy zz
fi wi fu is yu di so im ju ir fu is so ir fi yu fi im yu is fu is fu im fi wi

aaa bbb ccc ddd eee fff ggg hhh iii jjj kkk lll mmm nnn ooo ppp qqq rrr sss ttt uuu vvv www xxx yyy zzz
han han mek han mek wha mek han han fus fus wha wha han han fus tor han mek tor fus han tor wha tor wha

aaaa bbbb cccc dddd eeee ffff gggg hhhh iiii jjjj kkkk llll mmmm nnnn oooo pppp qqqq rrrr ssss tttt uuuu vvvv wwww xxxx
riva cyaa duti duti riva worl yudo riva cyaa skam cyaa riva ting worl iyaz skam worl iyaz worl riva riva cyaa cyaa ting

Amuse Me = G a j t d A d
Jesus Is a Shaman = I d t z t Dd G T e g m k f
Jesus Uses A Summon Oh Noes = I d t z t Z t u t G T z m m q p Q r P q u t

A = G
Ahem = G h d a
An = G p
As = G t
Amuse = G a j t d
Die = Ff u
Ha Ha = H g H g
Hoe = E q d
Human = E j m g b
Iris = Jj ll
Ires = Jj u t
Is = Dd
Jesus = I d t z t
Me = A d
Oh Noes = Q r P q u t
Semen = T u m u b
Shun = T s z p
Shaman = T e g m k f
Some = T q m u
Summon = T z m m q p
Use = Z t u

Alright, if you’re a horde, follow these instructions:

You type this: :This appears:

101 101…Zug Zug

UO UO…HA HA

27 11 11…mu ha ha

D F Z…L A G

U G U…L O L

As As As…Ha Ha Ha

aw…no

d e d…l o l

And for now, if you’re alliance, follow these simple instructions:

You type this:------------------------This appears:

h i…y o…

ss ee oo p…Me love u…

D a p Ee bb…You Lose…

b ppp…evil…

zz fff…never…

Fff d Ss pp…Very Mean…

Ss B ppp…Me Evil…

D a p aa B ppp…Youre Evil…

D a p aa Ss pp…Youre Mean…[/spoiler]

5082

Well, Tenacity pets are certainly more durable than Ferocity pets, but pet hp in general got buffed through the roof, and with a %-based Mend Pet + glyphed Misdirect non-BM pets are actually useful as tanks.
Just tested it and my bear generates about 3k tps on his own, while not enough to hold aggro if I go all out, it’s not like it used to be where a MM hunter had to stick to auto shot with Aspect of the Viper on to avoid drawing aggro.

5083

I’m still not clear about how FoF benefits FFB, other than from Frostburn which I’m not used to factoring in because I’m not 80 yet. :frowning:

Also, I forgot to mention that Deep Freeze was critting for over 10k. I see why so many people prefer DPS; it’s satisfying. :stuck_out_tongue:

5084

SFG, some people just have way too much time on their hands!

I also figured out that you kind of have to treat the elemental invasion like a pvp battleground…my survivability went up dramatically when I found a large mob of player toons fighting the elementals and just stuck with them the whole event.

5085

It gets better–I haven’t been watching my numbers since 4.0, but in pretty mediocre gear (Conquest-badge level) I was having DF crit for over 20k at times. :smiley:

To comment on the synergy between FFB and FoF, I’d have to check my spec, since I’m not sure exactly what my talents are anymore, but it used to be the case that your damage was increased against frozen targets (and that’s what FoF does–considers your targets to be frozen).

ETA: And jayjay’s definitely right about how to deal with the invasion. If you go off on your own, or with a small group that’s anything but very well geared and balanced with healers/tanks/DPS, you’re going to get creamed. Stick with the pack.

5086

Yeah, that’s Frostburn, the Frost Mastery skill. +20% damage with an additional 2.5% per point of Mastery. What confuses me is that FFB consumes FoF charges, but I thought I heard that wasn’t WAI?

5087

AFAIK FFB is intended to consume FoF. Are you sure about it only being the Mastery now? There isn’t anything that affects your Crit chance, e.g.?

5088

My Deep Freeze crits for near 30K in full T10, rocking 5700+ gear score. I’m really liking the frost spec, haven’t played my fire spec much at all lately. Of course, I’m playing the Druid most of the time now to gear him up, but I did take the mage on a run at the fire boss last night.

On a different note–

My druid is having a lot of trouble pulling aggro, and I really don’t know why. He doesn’t do huge dps yet, can hit about 3k on a aoe trash pull, but mostly under 2500 on boss fights. I’m using farie fire, insects/moonfire, Starsurge, and Star-something–the long casting nuke unless eclipse procs, and then I pound wrath until ecclipse wears off again. I do refresh the dots as they expire, but otherwise I’m not doing anything special. My mage almost never pulls aggro, even doing about twice as much damage on bosses…

I’ve pulled aggro on the druid when I wasn’t even the top guy on the DPS meter…sometimes even when I am as low as third place. Any ideas?

5089

I don’t know if it’s a bug per se, but my mage’s Invisiblity seems to be working differently since 4.0.1. Specifically, I can actually see other players/mobs while invisible, where before I couldn’t see anybody else. I hope that’s deliberate; the “you also can’t see anybody else” part of the spell made it feel rather useless to me. I mean, what’s the point of going invisible and trying to sneak around people, when you never know what’s going to be on top of you when you reappear?

They’ve also changed the “drunk” effect - instead of the world waving in and out and back and forth, everything goes blurry now - the drunker, the blurrier.

5090

Hmmm. I think I misunderstood what Fingers of Frost did. I thought it just allowed you to treat your target as frozen in general, but it only works for Deep Freeze, Ice Lance, and if Brain Freeze is talented FFB when it’s instant, and it consumes a charge for each.

I had the idea that as long as FoF was up, the target was considered frozen, so I could for instance spam Frostbolt for several seconds, getting Frostburn damage on each shot, before consuming FoF with Deep Freeze. I see now it doesn’t work that way.

On the upside, that means that a Deep Freeze to stun/freeze a target followed by Ice Lance spam will do monstrous damage. I can already kill most non-elites before the stun is up if I open with DF, and I don’t even have Frostburn yet.

5091

Yes, that’s what I’m talking about. My toon fades, but everything around me stays the same.

Honestly, I’ve barely paid attention to Mage stuff since 4.0. Since I don’t raid on Smarati, it’s not a priority for me, so I really have no clue how any of the changes work or what the synergies are. I might take a look tonight to see if I can puzzle some of it out, or find more info on EJ. 'Cause now I’m all annoyed that I have no clue. :smiley:

5092

Well, what the hell good are you then? You’re supposed to be a know-it-all!

I’m pretty sure I’ve got it now, though. Fingers of Frost only interacts with Deep Freeze, Ice Lance, and instant Frostfire Bolt. Only those three spells can get the Frostburn Mastery bonus on a target that’s not frozen when you have FoF. A target that’s ACTUALLY frozen will allow you to apply Frostburn to all spells you cast against it.

We knew it already, but this just reinforces the fact that Frostbolt is no longer the primary damage dealer; it’s just what you cast when you have nothing better to do, and given the way things are proccing right now you usually do have something better to do.

ETA: And of course FoF counting as frozen isn’t just for Frostburn; it allows Deep Freeze to actually stun or do OMGWTFdamage and it allows Ice Lance to do 2x damage. This is basic, of course, I just wanted to put it in for completeness.

5093

You must have some horrible luck, the events are only happening for a small fraction of the time. I’ve been trying to catch one all day without any luck myself.

5094

To be fair, they really SEEM like they last forever. Especially if you’re not able to fight them, whether because of level or gear or just not knowing what’s going on. Galloping around to catch all the elementals with the giant mob of toons I found last night, it took about twenty minutes or so to close all the rifts, but it felt like an hour. The elementals just keep spawning!

And playing on my trial account Alli toons (all very low-level, obviously) it seemed like every time I tried to enter Stormwind to grab Elmore’s quest (from the breadcrumb quest giver in the Goldshire smithy) the invasion was on and I kept getting one-shotted.

5095

We got 7 more people the Kingslayer title last night. (Although unfortunately my hunter still wasn’t one of them… sigh)

So we’ll be starting to pick at heroic modes in earnest next time we start raiding, and then LK on normal. Our guild’s at 7/12 HM technically since we did H Fester one time, but in reality we’ve only done 2 (Fester and lootship). It’ll be interesting to see how we do.

Hey, out of curiosity, when other guilds do LK, do the healers call out plague on players? Our people are generally good about running but a lot of the time they’re a second or two slow which makes me twitchy. (As the holy priest, I’m the assigned dispeller)

5096

If people aren’t doing something important, even if it’s something they should be able to keep track of themselves, you should call it out. Otherwise, if you take the high road, it’s their fault, but you still wipe. Sometimes, it’s better to just hold their hands and kill the boss.

5097

We found that calling didn’t help because of vent lag (although maybe it’s just our vent server). By the time you actually heard it it was often too late. I’d say as a healer just do the dispel at the right time - it’s better than having the person die and hopefully the new host will realize and react appropriately. Obviously if someone is consistently having problems then it needs to be addressed.

Really once you’ve done it a few times (at least on normal) phase 1 is a non-issue, and more annoying than anything. It’s P2/P3 that can still get a little crazy. :slight_smile:

5098

Yeah, it’s definitely better to dispel when they’re in the wrong place than to keep waiting because they didn’t run out and have it kill them. Unless, you know, they really suck. :wink:

5099

We usually have people keep a Power Aura set to show them when they have the plague. Mine is a bright green and purple skull that flashes across about a quarter of my screen, in the middle. If I miss it, I’m unconscious.

Good news for me: My mage finally got HLK10 last night. Better late than never, I guess. I’d be happier about it, except that the Cataclysm raiding situation in my guild is in the process of going in a direction I’m very much not happy with. I hope I don’t end up having to find a new guild, because I like these guys. I’m afraid I might, though.

5100

/envy

My main still hasn’t gone 11/12 yet, either 10- or 25-man, because my guild lost interest before all the non-core members got through. From the perspective of the guild core members, I can understand: they’ve got their LKs. Some of my guildies are kinda thick, the “OMG Don’t stand in the (ooze|fire|frost)!” types. I’d seriously think of rage-quitting if I had to teach those folks Put or LK strategy. But basically, the guild ground down to a halt months ago. So my only shot at LK now seems to be pugging, and you never really get to continue on your raid after the first night. Furthermore, with the 4.0 “one raid” stuff, I don’t get distinct shots at 10- and 25-, so I’m burning my raid lock for the week on either one or the other. And the last 3 ICC runs I’ve been in have broken down over loot rage (hidden reserves, ninjaing, etc.)

So I’m frustrated. Pretty much giving up hope on LK. Nearly giving up hope on even getting Ashen Verdict exalted (6,000 to go).

:frowning: