Now wait just a minute… there’s no Relic Chamber in Isle of Conquest… are you sure you’re not the terrorist plant? :dubious:
I will level my dps pally to 85, and my son’s abandoned pally (lvl 51) as well (to level up mining and herb gathering skills), and then maybe roll a new goblin toon, but not sure which class yet.
I was quite disappointed to learn that to even use the Spirit Beasts you need to be in BM spec. I thought you only had to be BM to tame them, but could call them in MM or SV. Alas, I have not played with Gondria too much because of that.
I’m going to level my hunter and then I’ll decide if I want to re-roll or work on an alt. Depending on how the holiday budget goes I might move my main over to Cairne, just because any Hordies I make will be on Cairne for the BDL and it’ll make heirlooms easier. RealID lets me chat with my one friend now anyway, ha ha ha.
Man, I still can’t decide to play a Warrior or Mage.
My plans are:
- Get my mage to 85 and ready to raid ASAP, optimally within a week.
- Level my mage’s Enchanting to max as fast as possible–our guild is going for Realm First Working as a Team (all tradeskills to max) and the various designated profession-levelers will have the full resources of a rather large guild behind us, so I expect that will happen very fast. Unfortunately there are some other large or larger guilds on our server, so who knows if it’ll be fast enough?
- Get my DK to 85 and ready to raid ASAP, optimally within 2 weeks (though I plan to at least try dual-boxing them–if it makes things faster I’ll keep it up; if it doesn’t, mage first then DK.)
- Finish leveling my BE warrior to 85 (I started him a little more than a week ago and he’s just shy of 67 now) and see about maybe doing a little light raiding with him, time permitting.
- Start a goblin (probably a hunter) with the spousal unit and level them in a leisurely fashion together.
- Level my paladin to 85 along with the spouse’s paladin.
#s 1, 2, and 3 are by far my highest priorities, though.
My plan is to sleep through the 3am launch time (In my nice, warm bed), have a delicious breakfast, then head off to Vashjir. My warrior will be pushed to 85 as soon as possible so I can gear him up for guild raids, after that I plan to roll a Goblin warlock and leisurely level up my other 80’s.
Spent the weekend getting 450 cooking on my hunter and paladin, which I had been neglecting, and running H CoS for the Bronze Drake on my paladin since he still doesn’t have epic flying and I want to save as much gold as I can.
Since the last patch I’ve been having a really nasty 3-5 second lag spike every now and then, which may mean I won’t be able to raid in Cata. I’ve updated all my drivers, tried the Latency fix thing, reset all my settings back to recommended/default and no luck. It’s really frustrating to go through some dungeons with no lag, then in the next one I get 2-3 spikes. Happens to me anywhere, in Org, out questing, dungeons, fishing, just standing around, I can’t figure it out. I was lucky enough to be spared a lag spike while tanking OS3D, but I lagged during the drake roll. I’m going to cross my fingers and hope that it goes away on its own or I doubt I’ll be doing any raids in Cata.
I’m a little confused–the bronze drake doesn’t give epic flying. You still have to pay the 5,000g before you can even use it. I guess I must be misunderstanding what you’re saying here, unless you just mean that you’re saving yourself the money you’d have to spend to buy another mount.
And with the new mount changes I don’t think you even need to buy an “epic” mount anymore. They all go at whatever speed you’ve trained. So plunk down the 5k and suddenly everything goes 280%. Buy the next tier (dunno what it costs) and they all go 310%.
The next tier is 5,000g as well.
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And with the new mount changes I don’t think you even need to buy an “epic” mount anymore. They all go at whatever speed you’ve trained. So plunk down the 5k and suddenly everything goes 280%. Buy the next tier (dunno what it costs) and they all go 310%.
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Huh, didn’t know that. Oh well, at least I have something other than my ugly wyvern to choose from now.
Word. I’ve been gritting my teeth and enduring Sparklepony on my Mage until I could get a Bronze Drake because I absolutely refuse to ride a wyvern.
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The next tier is 5,000g as well.
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Depends on your rep I think. I paid (IIRC) 4250 in SW for my one and only level 80 to get the ability. You don’t need a purple or epic mount anymore though, since every flying mount will go the same speed.
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Some people “suck” out of ignorance, as you indicate. The game itself has no tutorial or even practical guidance in “optimum play”. Not everyone knows about the unofficial off-line (with respect to the game itself) resources available on teh intarwebz. I mean really, if you need it, why isn’t it in the game?
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I ‘suck’ for a variety of reasons that you’ve given here. First, I only recently started playing again after quitting for over 2 years. I go into a random dungeon now (which is a really cool feature and still amazes me) and I have little or no idea what’s happening or what people expect me to do. They all seem to be working from the same plan, having played ground through the same dungeons dozens or even hundreds of time for all I know.
I don’t have optimal gear…mostly I have quest gear with some dungeon (non-heroic) gear and some stuff I’ve bought at the AH. I also don’t have whatever mod people are using to optimize their shot/spell rotation to the nth degree and maximize every drop of DPS they can squeeze out of the game. To me, playing like that is more a Pavlovian experience more akin to work than to having fun.
I’ve been called a lot of names because I ‘suck’ by players who have zero patience or tolerance for anyone who doesn’t know everything they know, or do everything exactly to some script I don’t have (the most confusing dungeon by far for me is the one with the dragons…I simply can’t follow what I’m supposed to do and generally end up losing the group as the tanks charge from one kill site to the other and I’m trying to loot the bodies). In general I simply don’t bother with PvE dungeons or PvP anymore, simply doing the quests and enjoying the novelty (for me) of flying around and seeing all the cool sites. I’m one of your ‘tourists’ in that respect, as well as one of the sucky players who is there to have fun instead of optimizing my damage and gear and seeing how rude I and obnoxious I can be. C’est la vie. 
-XT
I can relate. 
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PS: Thanks, SFG for the training dummy tip. I had forgotten about them.
Also could it be that those one of a kind items (green and blue, some of them) aren’t selling because they’re being listed by a level 11?
Thanks
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Tell people you’re just getting back into the swing of things. Trust me, I know the ‘I have no idea wtf is going on here I’m just following people around’ feeling. People are a lot nicer if you tell them and will often give advice. And if they give you shit, well, you’re probably never going to seem them again on the RDF, and you can always give the flippant answer ‘yeah, sorry, I’m too busy working and banging my SO to keep a talent tree calculator around’. 
Nope. Nobody cares who lists an item. A lot of people have lower-level bank toons that do all their auction business for them.
If they’re not selling, you’re either charging too much or people just aren’t interested. I’ve found (and your mileage may vary) that the only way I can sell greens is if I price them fairly low (people buy them either to disenchant or to outfit low-level alts). Blues sell sometimes if they’re good (I actually got a decent price for a couple of blues this weekend) but especially level 80 blues don’t sell well because epics are so easy to get. I suspect this will change in Cataclysm, since epics are becoming a bit harder to come by again.
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Tell people you’re just getting back into the swing of things. Trust me, I know the ‘I have no idea wtf is going on here I’m just following people around’ feeling. People are a lot nicer if you tell them and will often give advice. And if they give you shit, well, you’re probably never going to seem them again on the RDF, and you can always give the flippant answer ‘yeah, sorry, I’m too busy working and banging my SO to keep a talent tree calculator around’.
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I’ve tried to do that. I don’t think that a lot of players even read the group chat anymore…they seem to completely ignore it except to throw out insults after they get frustrated. Several times I’ve typed into party chat the fact that I don’t know a dungeon right at the beginning, only to have someone say something like ‘Hey huntard…you are supposed to be standing over there and doing this, not standing where you are and doing that!’.
Mostly I can fake it well enough to not be noticed except by those who feel the need to constantly spam the party DPS and percentage everyone is doing after every fight, then tongue lash me because I’m only doing 18% of the total party damage instead of the 29.7% I SHOULD be doing if I knew how to play, etc etc.
-XT
Thing is, carrying a player who doesn’t carry his own weight isn’t fun for the rest of the party, so your fun comes at the expense of four other players, that hardly seems fair to me. Do what you want on your own, but please don’t expect complete strangers to be happy to carry you.
I’ll grant you, for much of Wrath people have overgeared the dungeons by so much that having an under performing player or two in the group hasn’t been a problem, and a lot of people have a rather, ah, inflated, notion of what acceptable dps is, so you might be doing ok, without knowing the exact situation I have no way of telling, but when I see level 80 warriors plod along at 700 even I start to wonder.
If I had better gear I’d be more than happy to use it. Unfortunately, I have the best gear I’ve been able to put together. I’m not a big raid player, and don’t have multiple level 80’s to send me back stuff, or give me heirloom gear (I don’t even have sufficient JP’s for a single item yet). I don’t know if this is ‘fair’ or not, but it’s reality.
No, I suppose not, especially since most of the parties don’t even seem willing to communicate what they are doing or what they expect. It’s all (seemingly to me) about getting through each dungeon in the quickest, most efficient way possible. Tanks rush in without any preparation..heck, a lot of times they don’t even bother waiting or checking to see if the healers are medded up or if anyone else is with them.
I don’t even know what ‘plod along at 700’ means, to be honest. I downloaded a mod that tells me the percentage of damage my guy (a hunter only recently level 80) does. I seem to average somewhere between 18-23% of the total party damage, which is seemingly low based on what people are telling me. Part of that is that I generally have my pet on passive and manually send him in (this stems from when I used to play WoW lo those many years ago and was repeatedly told that I should have the pet on passive or even summon it for engagements).
-XT
A percentage? Weird.
Look at it this way. Yeah, you’ve got 5 people in a group, but the tank is doing limited damage and the healer usually isn’t doing any damage at all. You’ve got roughly 3.5 people’s worth of damage being put out. That means you should expect to be doing anywhere from 25-35% of the total group damage.
I’d call that an exploit, yeah. IIRC, you had to dismiss your pet while it still had the debuff, which almost no one would do legitimately.
I’m really sad I wasn’t around for that, though. Ever since I first heard about it, it sounded so epic. The one thing I really wish they’d change about WoW is to bring in more world events. That’s why I loved the zombie invasion so much, and why I think the Cata lead-ins were so disappointing. The Breakfast Topic was Wrath vs. Cata launch events, and as of when I posted this morning, it was about 80%/20% Zombies/Elemental Invasion.
Yeah, I really wish there were some sort of autokick that would happen if someone is underperforming for X amount of time, that would spawn a vote dialogue (i.e., so if you’re in a group of all friends and chose to bring someone undergeared/inexperienced you can keep them in).
:smack: Strand of the Ancients, sorry. All of the newer BG names just run together for me. WSG? It’s a gulch. AB? It’s a basin. AV? It’s a valley. But ask me to tell an isle from a strand…
When you think about it, it makes sense. You have to have Fury with Titan’s Grip as your active spec in order to equip two 2H weapons, too, for example. Otherwise, people would constantly be getting end-of-tree talents and then swapping to another tree to get its talents on top of those. It would ruin the entire balance of the game.
Have you posted to the official WoW Technical Support forum? (Don’t forget that the old forums are read-only now and you need to go into the new community site. The old forums should have an FYI thread stickied with a link to the new ones, if you don’t have the link yet.)
Besides the fact that all mounts scale now, 280% flying does follow rep discounts, so if you can buy it from a faction you’re Exalted with, it’s “only” 4,000g.
Your Mage isn’t a Tailor? There are a variety of lovely carpets available to them.
1.) There are loads of resources out there for every instance. Check out Wowhead or WoWWiki for articles on boss abilities.
2.) If you don’t want to read up on everything at once, just start asking for help when you get into a group. Speaking personally, I have no problem stopping to explain what people should do–but it’s your job to open your mouth and ask. That holds true for everybody else I know, too. Make a macro that says something like /p I’m not familiar with this instance. If there’s something I need to know for a boss, please explain it to me before we pull. Thanks! Then all you have to do when you zone in is hit the macro.
3.) Most five-man content sub-80 can be brute-forced through. As a DPS, you pretty much just have to follow everybody else around and hit what the tank is hitting.
Nobody expects you to produce world-top DPS. You’re just expected to meet a very, very minimal barrier for the content: i.e., the point above which the group needs to perform as an average in order to progress. This is, to be blunt, not hard to do, and absolutely possible in quest gear with a handful of dungeon pieces.
If you cannot meet the minimum DPS requirement for Heroics, which is 1500 DPS on a single target, don’t queue for them until you figure it out. If, at 80, you cannot put out 1500 DPS on a single target, it’s almost certainly because of one of three things:
1.) You’ve selected Talents that do not help you put out damage, possibly including Talents that are designed to be mutually exclusive (e.g., the aforementioned Titan’s Grip and Single-Minded Fury).
2.) You are selecting gear that has stats that are suboptimal or useless for your class or spec.
3.) You are using a suboptimal rotation/priority list, e.g., one that doesn’t take advantage of synergy between abilities.
All three of those things are ones that people in this thread can help with, and are happy to do. It’s entirely impossible to make your character perform better, even for solo content, without being a crazy min-maxer. It’s entirely possible to have a build that’s designed mainly for solo questing and still do respectable (if not chart-topping) DPS–I know this because I’ve done it on alt after alt. (I tend to enjoy playing these “utility specs”–my Mage is Frost, my Hunter is BM, my Rogue is Subtlety–and they’ve always performed very well in instances, despite not being specced for maximum damage output.)
No. Nobody looks at who’s selling–just prices. Greens are almost always going to be bought by Enchanters looking to Disenchant (DE) them. A better bet than selling them would be to find an Enchanter to DE them for you, and then sell the mats that come out of them.
Lower level blues (anything sub-70, especially anything sub-60) tend to sell pretty well as-is. However, higher-level blues, especially blues for 80s, usually don’t sell well at all, except as more fodder for Enchanters.