New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

The Game Room
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No clue about the original game–we were talking about the Hyjal quests.

I did it while I was still on Korgath and yeah, it was pretty nuts. The server is fairly evenly balanced faction-wise (slightly more Alliance), and the Crucible kept changing hands back and forth. When we first flew over to attempt the quests, it was just blanketed with Horde. Any Alliance who attempted to land were eaten alive. We came back a couple of hours later and the situation had reversed. Which isn’t to say that some Horde didn’t still try to fuck with us in the middle of our fights. :smiley:

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Hopefully this hasn’t been posted yet: Raiding flowchart.

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I’ve found this one helpful as well: simplified cat DPS

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La la la la la I’ve been a bad player lately and busy with other things. I’m going slowly through, getting the Exploration and Loremaster achievements as I go through Cata, so I’m just going into Uldum and 2/3 of the way to 85. Happy that I don’t have to look at Therazane anymore! Plus i just tipped the ilvl so I can do the remaining 3 Cata dungeons.

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Woohoo! Exalted with Therazane on my main!

Soooo… was one of Blizzard’s ideas for Cataclysm to deliberately create an artificial resource shortage? Good grief, Whiptail available only along the riverbank in Uldum, and a small area of Tol Barad? Twilight Highlands virtually carpeted with Twilight Jasmine spawn points that never spawn? And likewise Heartblossom in Deepholm? Seriously, my herbalist circled Deepholm from 3:00AM to 4:00AM, server time and my real time, and came up with a grand total of 25 Heartblossoms. And Embersilk drops aren’t getting any better either.

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You know the vehicle quests in Cataclysm? Fuck 'em all. They’re not even vehicle quests, they’re quests where you climb a tree. The “vehicle” is an up button and down button. Lame.

Or when some machine asks you questions and the “vehicle” is a yes button and a no button. Lame.

Jesus Christ, I’d rather go out and kill ten boars repeatedly all the way to 85. Especially when I’ve Bartender’d the fuck out of my screen and can’t identify that there is a button for yes. So here I am emoting /yes to the machine like an idiot. Lame and lethal- twice.

And Ironforge was the best city in the game. Because Stormwind has docks, it also has the hearths and hearts of hundreds of Ironforge expats. Nerf Stormwind.

Shadow Priests, I’ve come up with an idea for an excellent new ability to join Mind Sear, Mind Flay, Mind Spike, Mind Vision, Mind Soothe and Mind Blast: Brain Fuck. It cleanses the annoyance of writing macros for different spells that all sound the same.

The glitter priests don’t have all their spells beginning Power Word: (blank) and only a couple Prayer of (blank)s. I just end up calling it Mind Purple-Laser-Thing.

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There’s one area in Deepholm where people only go for a couple of quests – a marshy area where you have to destroy giant mushrooms (not the daily, the huge ones); I gathered more Heartblossom than I knew what to do with in just 15 minutes. Twlight Highlands is horrendous, though, mostly because half of the Jasmine I find phase out by the time I get close enough to gather it.

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Nevermind – the area was called Needlerock Chasm, and it appears they’ve nerfed it into the ground.

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Thanks for the helpful guide, SFG – the baby war is now 25ish and still having a lot of fun.

On the other hand, I tried healing my first H on Arhiatlel. 5.4K SP, 2.2K combat regen, Mystic Mana pots, and using every CD ever. Still sucked out loud, and we called it on the trash before the final boss. Urgh. By that point, people were pretty fed up – we’re all still learning.

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So i finally tried some Druid healing in heroics over the weekend.

I gotta say that i like it. IMHO its a fun mix of hots & and Big Heals.

For what its worth, i did a lot of druid healing for BC, and almost none in WOTLK.

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Speaking of new healing experiences, I brought my new resto shammy up to 32 this weekend. It’s been hard to quest on him, because every time I do a dungeon he goes up a level and quickly outlevels the zone he was questing in. But anyway, does shammy healing ever get… you know, harder? It seems like my mana is limitless unless I spam Healing Surge (which I don’t have to do unless it’s a really, really bad pull). I don’t have many totems to choose from, and only two healing spells, so it’s the easiest class to heal with I’ve ever played. The only thing I have to pay attention to is whether I need to refresh the tank’s Earth Shield.

Yesterday in SM Cathedral the tank was pulling entire rooms and hallways full of mobs and it was not a problem (although he did need to use his Lay on Hands CD at one point).

Pro tip: making this guy an engineer was brilliant. When questing, 90% of the time I can pull a mob at range and have him dead before he reaches me, but when I get into trouble, target dummies are fantastic for taking the heat off me :slight_smile:

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Well, at 85 you’ll have Healing Wave, Greater Healing Wave, Healing Surge, Chain Heal, Healing Rain, Riptide, Unleash Elements and Earth Shield (and Cleansing Waters, sorta) so yeah, it’ll get more complicated. No idea how it before 80 these days, but base mana leaps up from 80 to 85, basically making you worse and worse healer mana-wise every time you gain a level. Overall I like it, though - tried some healing with my druid and hated it, but shammy healing seemed more like my style.

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My guild hit level 11 over the weekend, woot!

A guildie and I also sat down and ground out the end of the “Set the Oven to Cataclysmic” achievement, which is cooking 5000 Cata recipes, so now anyone Honored with the guild and at 500+ Cooking can cook that dragon feast reward recipe.

I’m also grinding away on my 83 warlock; we only have that class to go for the Stay Classy (one of each class to 85 and Honored with the guild) and the few 85 locks that we do have don’t play that often.

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Well, I’ve officially dumped Auctioneer in favor of Auctionator. I just finally had enough of Auctioneer locking up the game while it did its scanning on each and every auction I tried to post. I looked at the things SFG mentioned about it erroneously scanning everything in my bags, but this didn’t seem to be the situation in my case. At least not as far as looking at the numbers on the progress bars — the only number I ever saw there was “1”. Yet it continued to freeze the game for 1-3 minutes every time. I think the problem (for me, anyway) is that Auctioneer is just too feature-laden for my purposes. Each item I wanted to sell or buy was scanned and analyzed in every possible way, most of which I was never going to use.

Main things I like better about Auctionator:

Selling:

• Quickly identifies the current lowest-priced auction and automatically undercuts by a reasonable amount

and

• Generates a Starting Bid price based on the Buyout price it generated (as opposed to Auctioneer’s method of undercutting the Buyout and Starting Bid prices separately, which far too often resulted in it looking at two different auctions, so that I could get a reasonable Buyout undercut based on the current lowest Buyout, but then the Starting Bid would be ridiculously low because it was based on a completely different auction, usually posted by some noob/halfwit posting a single item with a 2c Starting Bid and no Buyout - too many stacks of my mats coming up with, say, a 50g Buyout and a 19s Starting Bid, which I’d have to manually change, or cancel my auction, run to the mailbox, and start over again because I clicked the “Create Auction” button too quickly).

• Posting one stack at a time and bulk posting multiple stacks use the same interface (vs. Auctioneer which had two different interfaces using completely different methods for calculating prices; I had to use the Appraiser tab to bulk post, and 99% of the time that interface returned the message, “Cannot match lowest price”, no matter how much fiddling I did with the settings).
Buying:

• Consolidates multiple auctions from the same seller and lets me buy as much as I want from that seller, one click per stack, with no separate confirmation click after each purchase

• Shopping Lists! It remembers mats I’ve purchased in the past and keeps them in a list on the side, so all I need to do is go to the “Buy” tab and click on an item in the list, and it automatically searches for that item

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Personally, I loved all of the quests, especially where they were doing new things rather than just “kill X of Y” and “bring me Z thingies.” Not really the game’s fault that you’re using a bar mod that couldn’t do what the default UI can.

Hoorah! Holler anytime you need more info or an update.

Hahaha, I’ve literally just made the opposite decision. I swapped to Auctionator for a few days because I was having scanning issues on Area 52, but there were just too many things I didn’t like about it. Interestingly, a lot of your issues with Auctioneer are things I’ve never even encountered (e.g., I have no idea what you’re talking about with having two different tabs for selling). Go figure.

What I Liked about Auctionator: The Buy tab was excellent for purchasing anything where I knew specifically what I wanted. I think its great that if you search for any term that has multiple items returned, it segregates the results by item (e.g., I don’t have to scroll past pages of cut gems if I’m looking for raws). The way that it sorts the returns for the actual item is also great, since it sorts them perfectly by price, showing you how they’re stacked and how many stacks are available.

**What I Didn’t Like: **No way to compare current prices to historical prices (i.e., no way to tell if an item is posted for a buyout that’s higher or lower than it should be): the only way you can consider auctions is how they compare to other items that are currently posted. Auction prices listed on tooltips are based on the cheapest buyout that was last active, not a moving average. No sort mechanics on the main search page, making it very difficult to, say, look for any JC recipes I haven’t already learned. There also isn’t an option to keep other windows from closing the AH when you have it open. When you’re posting auctions, you have to post an item twice if you want to post everything if your stack size doesn’t divide evenly among what you have. You’re also forced into a scan for the item every time you post a sale, even if you just scanned five seconds ago (e.g., when you’re posting the leftovers that didn’t fit into a full stack of the size of your other posted stacks). There is no way to cancel or pause any scan other than closing the AH/walking out of range of the AH NPC.

Apparently there’s a problem on Blizzard’s end that’s caused a lot of bugs with the fast AH scans on Auctioneer. I tried going back to the slow scan, and that’s working fine (it just takes forever). I really wanted to like Auctionator, but there are just to many missing features for me to be able to switch over to it. I was just reminded that there’s a shortcut for buying out auctions on Auctioneer without having to hit a confirmation dialogue for each one (IIRC it’s something like shift+rightclick), so that should help a lot.

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I didn’t like that one which starts you off inside the ship (the one that’s so hard to get back into?). For some reason I have trouble inside dark places (which is why I hate IF so much!), so I was glad that whenever I go back to that place (Vishnu or something like that?) I wind up in that smuggler cave. Much easier to navigate/swim out of/into.

Thanks

Q

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Vashj’ir (rhymes with “wash ear”). And yeah, the boat you start in as Alliance can be particularly tricky to work your way out of. Fortunately, there should be no reason for Wolkie to quest there unless you want to: he could easily move from Hyjal to Deepholm to Uldum to Twilight Highlands and just skip Vashj’ir entirely.

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Quasi, from here on out in that zone your quest hubs will mostly be underwater caves like that (edit: at least is was that way for Horde; maybe Alliance is different).

I will warn you that I found it really easy to get lost in that zone, I guess because you have to worry about your z-axis in addition to your north-south and east-west location. The caves can be hard to find, in my experience. So my recommendation is to pay attention to where they are on the map and look for visual cues to help you find your way back.

Maybe I’m the only one who had that problem.

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I definitely had the same problem. I started to notice towards the end, that the entrances to caves seemed to be marked with a lot of colorful coral… though that could all be in my head and not true at all…
My view of the zone can be summed up with one simple statement that i uttered in guild chat: “I’m sick of searching for the entrance to these stupid caves”

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That would be correct. Also, cave entrances: marked on your map.