So, someone who doesn’t figure out that you need to enable positional audio to get any sound at all is an idiot? Figuring out that something that looks like an optional extra feature is in fact a requirement when the faq only tells you that if you don’t get any sound it is because there is something wrong with your settings is an idiot check?
Whoo, interesting night pugging. I grabbed a guildie and in we went as heals and rdps to try my hand at heroics. I never did the new SFK, mind you, not even on reg, but that’s what we got.
Tank 1: H SFK. Troll pretending to be a bear bot with world’s worst tanking. We were too busy staring at it to realize until after the first wipe that he had less health in bear than my undergeared *mage *guildie did. Everyone drops party. We requeue.
Tank 2: H SFK. DK with appropriate HP. I breathe a sigh of relief. TOO EARLY. Dude charges into pulls like he’s in H ICC25 gear in Wrath. Doesn’t wait for dps, hold much aggro, or use tank CDs. When I politely request CC due to his squishiness, his first comment is to call *me *a bad. :dubious: Guildie snaps back with snark, and somewhere in there we get to Springvale with me healing my undead tits off. Final straw for the excellent dps is when he pulls again after I’m only at 40% mana post-dirt nap on the kitchen boss due to his not picking up the add.
When the tank skips Springvale and goes barrelling into the next trash pull without us again, the dps (with one very grateful priest) have collectively had it and stage a sit-in. He survives the pull with DK selfheals, but the dps boot him the second they can. Then one of the group proceeds to: sub in his Cat H raid geared tank and a guildie from his server. :eek: He then gets us Springvale and the achievement [To the Ground!] in quick succession. I half-jokingly thank him for not calling me a bad, and the rest of the run goes well. His guildie got a Chaos orb out of the deal, so all’s good.
Tank 3: Reg GB because guildie needs a few more JP. Another DK and I get ready to wince thanks to the so-recent experience. But this one starts in by laying down the law that only he gets to pull, and he is by gum marking for CC, got that? I practically kiss him and come back with “only if you let me get mana and wait to pull until I’m in the same room with you.” Whee!
I may try my luck again tonight with the same guildie just for the lols.
Any hints on where to farm volatiles? I can get waters without any problem by fishing, but I only occasionally get any of the othes by skinning and I want to farm them on my non-skinner.
Sorry, Skammer, the only one I get easily is life and that’s due to herbies.
If you have an engineer, they can craft a device that gives a chance at collecting volatile air every time they gather something (mining, herbing, skinning). This requires the engineer’s 2nd prof to be gathering, as it requires engy skill to stay active.
Herbalists get a ton of volatile life.
Miners can get everything but volatile life from elementium and pyrium nodes.
I remember fishing up volatile fires from lava, but I don’t remember if it was specifically a pool fire (end area of Hyjal, where you initially see Ragnaros arise) or if it was random open-lava fishing.
Elemental monsters, though it can be slow and frustrating (Twilight Highlands has a few viable areas). If you’re a miner, you can mine earth elemental and gyreworm corpses for an additional chance at volatile earth and ore.
I’ve gotten as many as 6 volatiles off elemental corpses in heroics, but that’s not farmable.
If you have a level 85 that can do engy/mining, that’s what I would do – get the extra-air device and go mining during off-peak hours. Excess ore goes to the prospector or AH. And if you mine up the mini-geode noncombat pet, that’s a good 20-25k on the AH 
Yeah, my main has a ton of volatile earth from doing Therazane dailies, especially since there are usually a buncha gyreworm corpses sitting around mineable from the other 5 people doing the dailies.
My miner/engineer is only 44, so that’s a long way off. Neither do I have an herbalist - so it looks like my best bets are fishing/lava fishing, or killing elementals. I might be better off raising money another way and buying what I need.
My mage is 85, and working on gear. At the moment I’m at ilevel 326, just below the 329 minimum for heroics. Question–why is there more PVP gear with +hit than there is JP gear with +hit? I’m well below the hit cap…about 9% atm, so I’m thinking getting hit capped should be my first priority…but to get +hit, I’m looking at PVP gear…
Consider reforging, gems, enchants as well. I just switched a trinket yesterday, losing a couple % worth of hit, and a bit of reforging and two gem changes had me back on track.
8/12 now: Conclave of Wind down. Yet another fight that went very easily with a competent group. Spent the rest of the night on Al’Akir and got a bunch of really solid attempts in (got ph3 on an early attempt, and one or two other times, but spent most of the night mucking about in ph2). We just need to work on ensuring everybody stays alive–we really can’t afford to be down any DPS or healers in ph2 or we’re just not going to make it. We also need people to be paying more attention to when they’re DPSing the adds to properly stack Feedback; there was a lot of people pushing too hard and killing them too fast, or not switching fast enough and keeping them up too long.
Yes, our assumption is generally “if you can’t pay attention enough to follow simple instructions, you probably are going to *really *suck.” Not that the ability to connect to Mumble means you’ll be uberpro. 
Easy-peasy: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
Future reference, if you ever lose the link: it’s the top of the Google returns for “mumble.”
Ooh, me me me! I guess you must have just missed the times that I’ve talked about it. Probably because my poor Mage has been neglected for months.
No clue what you’re talking about there–I don’t recall having to enable any weird feature to get it to work. Was it something that started enabled that you disabled without knowing what it was? Regardless, our general concern isn’t settings like that (i.e., where someone could connect and then not hear or not speak). I’m truly talking about people who:
1.) Repeatedly try to connect to our Mumble server using Ventrilo, despite the fact that we make it explicitly clear that we use Mumble and not Vent.
2.) Can’t figure out how to download a program even though we provide the download link.
3.) Can’t plug the server information into the right slots, because it’s organized slightly differently from Vent, even though they’re clearly labeled.
We seriously hold people’s hands through the whole damn thing, and there’s even a macro to explain how to set your PTT key (even though that shouldn’t be hard to figure out on your own). You’re massively underestimating just how stupid and incompetent some PUGs are.
I really hope this isn’t a requirement (from SFG’s post later it sounds like it isn’t). I’m kind of trying to get our guild to switch to Mumble when our current Vent subscription expires in June (our former GM/Vent administrator left the game and I’m the new Vent administrator) but I’ve read in various places that the positional audio thing might actually violate Blizzard’s TOS due to the fact that it accesses WoW’s memory somehow. I’m not sure exactly what’s going on or even if this is true (or if it was at some point but isn’t anymore) but I certainly don’t want to encourage the swap to a system that requires something that might get people banned.
I suspect that, given the number of guilds that use Mumble now, this is a non-issue. But I’ll need to track down the definitive word before I encourage any further.
BTW, I assume that there’s no problem with running both Vent and Mumble clients on the same box, right? I’m thinking about getting a small Mumble server for myself and trying it out with some friends to see how well it works before I try to pimp it to the guild.
The volatiles have to be fished from ‘schools’ in the lava, they look like circles of flames on the surface of the lava and they only have a finite number of volatiles before they disappear. I think Find Fish works for them but I’m not sure but worth looking out for I get at least 6 volatile fires fish and often more. Two areas are in Hyjal as discussed and one in Twilight Highlands where the final quest chain takes place, there is a small lava moat with a named mob in the middle on a rock.
I see no reason they’d conflict.
Reminds me of my IRC days and the number of mIRC users I encountered who seemed to believe that mIRC was the network, rather than just a client to access a pre-existing network, and couldn’t comprehend that a lot of the people they were talking to were using different clients that didn’t have all the same features that mIRC had. Though the Vent/Mumble is exactly the opposite (different clients with different networks), these people are making basically the same mistake.
Similarly, some years ago I was briefly subscribed to an e-mail discussion list dedicated to the topic of “erotic spanking”, and I was always amused by the number of AOL users (it was always people with @aol.com addresses) who would sign up for the list and then two days later start sending panicked posts begging to be removed when all these sexual e-mails started showing up in their inbox. It became obvious that these were the people who thought AOL was the Internet, and were oblivious to the difference between a chatroom and an e-mail list 
Massive increase in the RDF buff from 0% to 15%. I think it was pretty apparent to people experienced in other communities that the dungeon difficulty needed to be toned down in order to prevent the community from poisoning itself. Having players drags others down just breeds resentment and without a way to silo players based on skill, Blizzard’s only choice was to eliminate the difficulty problem. Should be a huge improvement to the game’s atmosphere.
Further bonus: there’s a concrete benefit to filling at least one slot in a guild run with a PUG. Given the especially tossup nature of PUG Heroics lately, I know I’ve pretty much been refusing to even queue unless we have at least three, and preferably five, guildies. Which then sucks for the people who don’t have guildies to run with but who don’t suck.
It’s an option in Mumble, if I uncheck it, Mumble goes silent. Not sure if it’s enabled by default but I had some issues with my microphone so I wanted to keep the number of features at a minimum when I first installed it. It’s possible that it’s just something that’s specific to my computer but I spent a fair amount of time and lots of foul language trying to get it to work.
Anyway, if you encounter people who have the kind of issues you mention here, then yes, I can see why you consider it an idiot check.
I don’t play WOW but I have a question. Can any of you give me some zones to youtube for good background music? I’m curious about the music in the game
Oh man, so much great stuff. Really, I’d suggest you just “borrow it from a friend” (wink wink, nudge nudge) and then buy it if you like it. Certainly tracks to check out as starting points are the themes for each game: “Legends of Azeroth” for the original game, “The Burning Legion” for the first expansion, “Wrath of the Lich King” for the second, and “The Shattering” for the current expansion. The one criticism might be that they’re designed to specifically call back to earlier themes as the expansions progress, so you might not get the best feel for the broad range of music you encounter in the game.
“Searing Gorge” = “George Shearing”?
I bet there’s a lot more clever 'word play" in WoW, huh? 
Thanks
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