Indeed sir. I’d say you have quite a grasp of the druid class.
Anybody know how to do a Wowhead (or wherever) search to determine where I can find quests that give Gnomeregan rep? My nelf hunter has finished “Exalted Champion” of Darnassus and Stormwind, having already been Exalted with both cities before starting the Argent Tournament stuff. Then yesterday, he finished Champion of Ironforge and then headed to Loch Modan and did enough quests there to get up to Exalted with IF.
So now he’s almost to Exalted with Exodar, but he’s just barely into Revered with Gnomeregan. I’d really rather be taking the bag of gold from those other Argent Crusade dailies instead of the rep token thing if I can help it, so if I can find Gnomeregan quests… I talked to that gnome in Loch Modan (over at the hunter’s compound) while I was there, but his tooltip says he’s Ironforge faction, not Gnomeregan.
My draenei paladin finished up Badlands last night, and I was running him around to get the last couple spot for the Explore Badlands achievement … good lord, there appears to be absolutely no way, at-level, to get credit for “discovering” Bloodwatcher Point (Horde Reliquary encampment) without aggroing the level 85 NPCs, dying instantly, and getting flagged for PvP. I approached it from several different directions, getting killed three times in the process without getting credit for the “discovery”, before I finally said “fuck it” and just mounted up and ran straight through the middle of the camp :mad:
Then it was off to Searing Gorge, where that pacifist ogre, Lunk, made me laugh my ass off! Geez, while he was accompanying me, he even yelled at me for killing “critters” like Fire Beetles and the tiny spiders. But watching him body-surf on the backs of the big spiders was a riot 
Go to WowHead, click on Quests under Database. In the filter dropdown, choose “Increases reputation with…” then choose “Gnomeregan” in the box that appears. You’ll get a list like this that you can sort through.
Also, you can get Gnomeregan rep by wearing the tabard while running dungeons.
Even easier, you can just search for Gnomeregan, go to the faction page, and then check out the Quests tab on the faction page.
And yeah, tabard + dungeon is probably going to be your best bet anyway. Even solo-clearing low-level dungeons should do it.
I can just see getting Exalted with Stormwind by running Stockades 20 times. “I killed the hell out of everyone in there.”
Thanks 
I discovered that the Stockades are not the place for a solo hunter, even at level 80. Not that he was in any danger for his life, just that he’d one-shot the first mob and instantly have 14 more on top of him before he could get a second shot off. It’s just tedious and no fun at all as a hunter having to melee your way through a dungeon (while getting no credit at all for mobs killed by your pet).
Put a Frost Trap on the ground between you and the mobs. That way, when they all start running toward you, you have time to get a DOT up on all of them before they get into your dead zone. Then you can unleash your pet on anything that’s still alive, since the damage will have tagged it for kill credit for you.
Similarly, Explosive Trap should do a solid job of mowing down low-level NPCs.
Alternatively, using liberal use of Misdirection (with the glyph that resets it’s cooldown if used on your pet) should pretty much keep all of the attention on your pet.
If you’re one-shotting the mobs though (which for Stocks you obviously are…) I’d just race through, grab a ton of them (maybe all?) and drop an Explosive Trap under them, then turn my pet on to tear them up.
Frost Trap has a DoT? I thought it was just a Slow effect…
Actually, the biggest issue for a hunter is Stocks is the short passages and so many corners - you just can’t get any kind of range on the trash mobs. You’re either right on top of the mobs, with them at the minimum firing range, or they’re just around the corner and out of line-of-sight. So you have to get so close to begin with that, even with Frost Trap slowing them down they’re still on top of you before the timer lets you get a second shot off.
Basically, that’s one of the reasons I abandoned my tauren hunter so long ago. The above-mentioned problems in cramped, twisty, underground areas were further exacerbated by his size; trying to back up to range ended up with his back against a wall and his shoulders filling my entire screen.
No, the Frost Trap slows them so you have time to use another ability.
I was thinking the densely packed mobs in Stockades would be ideal, but I was admittedly thinking of my priest. HolyNovaHolyNovaHolyNovaHolyNovaHolyNovaHolyNovaHolyNova
Even even easier - if you download the wowhead client, use the add-on, and upload the data you can filter the Gnomeregan (or whichever faction) quests even further by eliminating quests which your character has already completed.
Ok, this is just an observation of something that seems counterintuitive to me regarding the pvp in Tol Barad.
I’m using only my pve gear. My Ret Pally is a killing machine. I’m not bragging here, but my pally seems to survive virtually every fight…out of 6 battles (which we won every single time), she’s died a total of 3 times. One time while defending a flag, we were outnumbered about 7 vs. 14 and I ended up as the lone survivor. Something doesn’t seem right here…not one point in resilience and I’m surviving against others with resilience? (assuming that they are actually using pvp gear) Is resilience overrated? My dps is about 4500, which I’m not sure is an accurate gage of what’s going on here; sometimes I’m not the one with the highest dps. Maybe the other team is focusing on healers too much and I’m taking them out quickly without them realizing it until it’s too late? Have I found a secret niche in the pvp market of HKs?
Now I am gonna brag…One of my deaths was quite awesome…I was the only hordie left in a sea of red nameplates at ICG, about 14-17 of them. In my pve gear…I survived for about another 45-60 seconds against the alliance! Of course I popped whatever cooldowns I had, and alternated between an offensive attack followed by whatever heal I had at my disposal, but I was able to tie up these clowns for quite a while while the rest of my team secured WV and Slag. I can see 3-5 enemies being incompetent enough to tie up that long, but 15?
Something is not adding up here. My story here is a true account of what happened last night. I did some pvp with Bird last week and pretty much the same thing happened at Gilneas, but on a smaller scale.
Maybe the alliance are really that bad.
Not sure about your particular experience Yeti, but I do know that Ret is pretty strong in PvP right now. That said, with zero resil you should go down very fast with even two or three trained on you. I’d guess that at least some of that was you being ignored.
I do know that in a battleground or Tol Barad, if I’m taking a node guarded by a Ret Pally, some other DPS, and a few healers, you will likely be the last person I kill (not because I don’t fear Ret, but because it’s not worth wasting time just to have you bubble). Healers and casters are just more important kill targets, IMO.
Also, on Cairne (where Alliance outnumbers Horde 2-to-1, IIRC), Tol Barad is FULL of very poorly geared Alliance toons. It’s quite likely that many of the people you were up against had as little resilience as you, and likely less PvE gear as well.
Not to belittle your experiences at all, just offering some possible explanations of seemingly unlikely events (surviving being trained by 14 in particular seems almost impossible).
As to whether resilience is over-rated, many would say that in Tol Barad it is (for DPS). The reason being you’re either zerging or being zerged, by and large. Small-scale skirmishes just don’t happen that often. If you’re being trained by a zerg, you’re going to die resil or no. And if you’re zerging you don’t really need survivability because the kill targets will be the healers, not you. More burst is worth more than survivability.
So yeah, for TB I’d stick to PvE gear if it’s working for you. On the other hand, for smaller-scale BGs and for Arena especially, zero resil is a recipe for much sadness.
That makes sense. But in Stockades, I’m so close already (no choice - it’s cramped) that the mobs take one or two steps in my direction and they’re inside my minimum shooting range, slowed down or not, and I can’t shoot them.
Yeah, hunters don’t have a lot of AoE - they’re pretty much the definition of “one target at a time” 
I repeat, Explosive Trap!
Run down the hall with the pet on passive. When you have enough mobs (enough varying on the level of the dungeon - for Stocks it’s basically the whole damn place), fire up misdirection on your pet and drop an explosive trap at your feet. When the trap goes off put your pet back on defensive to clean up whoever survives the trap (casters will still have to be mowed down, but will be trivial with multi-shot).
All good points. So, until I sense that pve isn’t working for me, then I will pretty much do the same, and I will definitely gear up for Arena (whenever I get to it) in pvp gear. I don’t have any problems at all with the dailies in either the north or south, I can usually get it all done in an hour, plus the bonus dailies after a victory.
Another bonus is that the crocs in Tol Barad make it easy to accumulate the meat (for the +90 strength buff). No flying around the river in Uldum anymore!
I quit my 10-man today. I hope my raid leader doesn’t get upset; I’ve enjoyed the group, but I haven’t been enjoying DPS lately, and putting aside a couple nights a week just doesn’t seem worth it.
I’ve leveled my priest from 50 to 66-and-counting, though that’s going to be slower now because I’m trying to say synched with a couple of people who are also leveling. I’ve also brought up my pally a few levels as heals; disc priest and holy pally look a lot a like from the outside, but man, it feels like the play differently. I’m enjoying healing way more than DPS, so I might go with that for a while. I figure it’s a game, so if I’m not having fun, I should switch.
And snakes. And the pet on passive or dismissed.
I finally bought a couple of PvP pieces last week, but I’ve been busy with irl stuff since so they’re still pristine. What I’d like to know about PvP is:
- why are there so many people hitting my pet? Not that I mind, but do they also have problems breathing and talking at the same time?
- why is it that sometimes I can pretty much take out a stool, perch myself on it and start sniping at the first healer-possible I can see (bonus points if I can verify it’s an actual healer), then the next, then the mage, then the shammy who’s back, then… all without leaving my spot and others when everybody who’s not trying to gangbang my pet is on my ass? There doesn’t seem to be a relationship with my actual performance, it’s not a matter of someone suddenly realizing the short redhead has been stewing the cows.
- there have been a couple times I’ve been at the Strand of the Ancients and grabbed one of the guns, and the dude on the gun at the other side was shooting at me, not just a couple of times but the whole time until the door got breached and I left. Is there a logical reason to do that, or is it someone who can’t breathe and pump blood simultaneously?
- what part of “hit the goddamn healers!” do so many people not understand? I mean, “the one in the skirt first” is a pretty ancient motto.
1.) Ret Paladins tend to be pretty strong in PvP (Plate + damage + heals + defensive CDs + other utility).
2.) The other players probably didn’t have any PvP gear, either.
3.) If you were spending most of the fight doing damage instead of healing, you may have been considered a low-priority target (kill healers first, then casters in cloth, then the leather and mail crowd, and only then bother with the plate melee).
1.) Who says you have to shoot them in the rooms? The hallways are nice and long.
2.) You just need to put more thought into the synergy of your abilities. As observed, you don’t need distance at all if you use MD + a fire trap.
The pet dies faster than you do, and depending on the type it might have obnoxious abilities. Or they’re stupid.
Somebody looking to faceroll their way to Honor, probably. Maybe even botting.