So I’ve been trying to gear back up my mage (Currently at ilvl 349) and man, either I’m getting old, or my skills at playing these games are just really going down hill. I find that I’m having trouble keeping up in heroics sometimes (A SFK run yesterday, I could barely manage 9k…on the AOE pulls). I couldn’t tell if it was the damn 380 + Geared hunter doing 25k that made it impossible for my dots to tick, or what, but it was painful to me. I did still manage 13-14k (with 3 stacks of the random dungeon buff) on bosses where I got to do my rotation at least, but ouch. Maybe it’s time to stick with the single player games.
Whaa? I know players can’t get kicked in the beginning of a run or right after a fight, but I never heard of anyone becoming immune to kicks because they’ve been kicked out of other groups a lot recently. Is this really a mechanic?
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Whaa? I know players can’t get kicked in the beginning of a run or right after a fight, but I never heard of anyone becoming immune to kicks because they’ve been kicked out of other groups a lot recently. Is this really a mechanic?
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I’ve never seen immune either, but I have seen 2 and 4 hour kick timers on people which I guess would basically make them immune. Usually if the player is that bad people will ask around if anyone else can kick him.
Grrr I hate Lord Ryolith (Roflstomp). Last week we 3 shot him, this week we spend an hour and a half wiping because he decided to either activate a volcano behind him, or a volcano all the way on the other side of the platform. Such a terrible fight for everyone. I’m glad we’re going to work on Alysrazor on Thursday, I’d much rather dance with fire tornadoes than kick Ryo in the shins again.
If the Mage is attacking things that are on the Hunter instead of the things that are on you, the Mage is *also *doing it wrong. Any time I’m DPSing and go after mobs that aren’t on a tank, either (a) I fully expect to be able to handle them myself or (b) things have gone to complete shit and I’m trying to keep someone else more fragile–usually the healer–alive.
It is never too early for people to firmly associate in their minds that attacking mobs the tank doesn’t have aggro on = death.
My main is a Mage, and I agree completely. I’ll sacrifice myself to save the healer if needed, if I can’t sheep whatever is eating the healer, but otherwise I’m dpsing tanked mobs. The huntard is on his own. He’s got traps, feign death (at mid level, I think), and a pet. If that ain’t enough to save his ass, then it’s just cyber-Darwinism in action.
“I kept hitting Cure Disease, but it evidently does not remove the stupidity debuff.” - said to the random rogue who kept breaking the hexes and solo attacking the Plaguebringers in Tol’vir. A shame in a run that should have been chuckaliciously easy with a rogue, shaman, and mage for the dps.
Reminds me of one I ran the other day. I was with guildies except for the healer, on my DK who’s normally a tank but was playing DPS that run because the tank, who was not nearly as well geared as my DK, wanted to practice tanking (and I wanted to practice DPS since I don’t get much chance to do it). A couple of weeks ago our guild’s best frost DK gave me a castsequence macro for DPS, and ever since then my DPS has been way better than it ever was before. So anyway, we pull the first group of mobs in heroic Stonecore, I hit my macro (which basically consists of mashing one button unless one other one lights up, and hitting a third one if neither of them are lit up) and suddenly I’m ripping aggro off the tank right and left. I try to back off but DKs don’t really have aggro dumps. Fortunately my DK’s DPS set is as good as his tank set, so I manage to kill stuff anyway and nobody dies. The healer says “This would be a lot easier if I just had to heal the tank.” Sheepishly I reply, “I’m sorry…my fault. At my gear level with this macro I’m using, I feel like a 9-year-old driving a Ferarri. Tons of power and no control!”
Everybody laughed (fortunately the healer was a good sport) and from then on I made much more of an effort to keep control and not pull aggro. It didn’t always work, but…yeah. 
That’s pretty fuckin’ mean-spirited, I must say. Maybe one day, I’ll remember to not pay attention to the stupid chat-window.
That’s it
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Quasi, just remember every time you see something like that: the people who do it are almost invariably teen- and twenty-something repressed nerds with no social skills, and they do it because it helps them to justify their sad little internet-cool-guy existences. Then laugh at them because you’ve done so much more and accomplished so much more than they ever will that you aren’t even in the same zip code.
Then put them on ignore. 
This times eleventy billion.
Well, what happened was I saw it mentioned in the comments section of that article. A couple of respondents discussed it among themselves and I thought “Ah-hah! I’ll have to remember that little acronym.”
Then yesterday I was going after that Dal fishing quest “A Dangerous Catch” over near the Valiance Landing area in Wintergrasp and got pulled into a battle with the Horde over there, and that is when I began seeing LTP in the chat box, addressed to me, and , well hell, I don’t know - yesterday wasn’t a particularly “good” day for me anyway, and it felt like I was having rocks thrown at me (just like my namesake! :)), so I left the group.
I know about /ignore ______, but all that gets me is that I can’t ignore any more people, and that other /ignore (all) function never has worked for me, so I thought fuck it, I’ll wait till after midnight.
This sounds like I’m whining, doesn’t it? Well, as I said, some days (are diamonds) I can deal with it and some days (are stone) it makes me want to destroy something.
An all-adult server or 2 would help a lot, I think. I think we talked about me moving to an all RP server, but that just seems like I’m running away from the problem.
Maybe I’ll just make up my own little acronym: LTSMD!!! “Learn to suck my dick!!!”
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Ha! That made me laugh. You should make it a macro.
And if you want to be *really *“l33t,” make it “L2SMD!!”
You don’t need a tank in the low level dungeons if you have decent group coordination. So long as you have a healer in BoAs you can just zerg 'em. That’s not a style I enjoy. I play tanks in part because I like to set the pace. If people want to go faster or slower I figure they should roll their own tank. Or make their own groups and leave me out.
As a Rage tank it’s annoying when others aggro mobs. They aren’t hitting you so you don’t have Rage for your special attacks to get threat to make them hit you. Prot Warriors are a lot less dependant on incoming damage for Rage than a druid tank but only after you get Battleshout and Warbringer. In the Caverns it’s me doing the wailing when I get Rage-starved by overeager DPS.
That crap generally pisses me the fuck off. When I’m tanking on my pally alt, I call the shots…no one else. You do not fucking pull unless I ask you to…and I’m probably not going to ask you to pull. We move at my pace. I’m setting the pace primarily by looking at the healer’s mana–with consideration for dps mana as well. DPS is cheap. Huntards are disposable. Tanks are hard to find. We do it my way, or we get new DPS. As a Tank, I get insta-queues. As DPS, you’ll be lucky to get a group in 20 minutes. Behave or be gone.
Note that the above is my expectation. I generally don’t even have to say anything with a good group, and the first time I need to say something, I try not to be an ass about it. I start to get grumpy when somebody does the same thing over and over again.
Bwahahaha.
Penny Arcade summed up the problem pretty succinctly a few years back: Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Fuckwad. The problem is especially big for people in their tweens through their early 20s, which is why a lot of the stuff you’ll see in public channels is obnoxious and rude.
Yeah, unfortunately there’s a cap on the number of people you can ignore–a very small one, given the size of the game. I know there are addons that will effectively expand that list, but I can’t search for them from work. Can anyone else help?
Hahahahahaha!
You realize that your suggestion is now an improvement over our normal alt experience, right?
This is amazing. I really wish I had this when I was in ZA the other day and this DK decided that he was going to tell every single person in the group how to play their character. We kicked him right before the last boss so we could maximize his time wasted and maximize our satisfaction. “LTSMD” would have been a perfect parting shot, though.
At this rate, even if it weren’t a compulsion, I’d keep looting everything forever, just to annoy you.
My Alliance DK tank is now in Northrend. Somehow he managed to get through all of Outland with the starter DK pants. 
Lemmetellya, good thing the Dance Studio wasn’t implemented because a giant undead male draenei ecstatically dancing around waving his new pants would have been interesting.
For the most part, his pugs have been about as expected (UK and once, Nexus). Nobody’s died so far, so I guess that’s good. (Although I’m still shaking my head over the holy priest whose top heals done in that order were Renew at 5.5%, Echo of Light, and then PoM. Protip: When the tank has to keep popping every selfheal while your blue bar stays full, that’s not how you do it.)
On the other hand, my mage got Sunken Temple with a prot war and a resto druid. Zone in and we find out we have THREE mage dps, which you really don’t see much. One of each spec, collect 'em all! 
That was a lot of fun, blasting the place down with mage-induced death. We actually went on to run upper BRD twice, which meant I got a level and half out of the deal.
Isn’t there some way to unignore people? I don’t have anyone on ignore so I’ve never messed with that feature. If there is could’t you just delete all the people you put on ignore back when you were level 15 or so. I doubt someone who was annoying you back then has kept track of you so they can annoy you some more once you’re past level 18 or so.