New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

The Game Room
10382

Here’s something which doesn’t make sense to me:

You’re out there (say on the glacier, which is where I farm my frostweave cloth) on a daily and one of the loot items is “frost encrusted bracers” or some such shit which wouldn’t protect you even against a level 3 NPC.

So you look at it and check its properties and it’s worth maybe 1 g and it is recommended that you sell it to a vendor. Okiefine, but then you look near the top and you see that if you want to wear this piece of garbage you have to be a level 72.

Huh?

So if you have to be that high a level, why should I put it in the guild vault?

My low level new players can’t use it till they’re 72, and when they’re 72, they wouldn’t have the piece of crap?

I guess my question is, if it carries hardly any armor or any other properties, why assign it that high a level to begin with?

I know: I’m talking all around the answer, aren’t I? All I had to do is reach out and grab it, and I wouldn’t have had to write all this shit, but I just don’t get it, so I’ll have to do one of these :smack: when someone answers me.

Doesn’t matter, though, I :smack: myself numerous times a day. One more ain’t gonna kill me.

Thanks! :wink:

Q

10383

The term for it is “vendor trash”. Anything with that greyed-out name (Frost-Rimed Plate Bracers, etc) is there as decoration, and intended only to be sold to vendors.

I suspect the mininum level / ilevel are attached to the piece because the game automatically determines the vendor sell price based on level and other stats.

10384

Grats on the drop! It sucks that the gleaders aren’t happy for you. Especially since you help out with food mats. Do you guys use some sort of point system for drops? I haven’t ever been in a guild that does. My current is need/greed system and while I’m sure the gleader wanted theSho’ravon, Greatstaff of Annihilation, I got it! It’s all mine! hahahah
It seems to help that we have ~12 core group, so anyone getting an UG helps the whole group. (And no one’s in danger of bailing on the group) In fact, I’d probably be the most outsiderish of the group. (Probably why I’m #3 on the legendary quest collections)

10385

Hey, it’s a *cute *giant rat, okay! I swear mine hasn’t tried to bite my face off. (Yet.)

I… I don’t think I want to jump in that fountain anymore.

Oh, speaking of the Dalaran fountain, one of the funniest things I saw in Wrath happened there. When they first added the extra island to the Argent Tournament, one of the dailies was to use chum to summon and kill sharks. (Un)Fortunately, they forgot to put a zone restriction on the chum… and some bright spark figured out that you could use it in any body of water. Including the fountain.

So imagine, you’re walking through Dalaran (yes, walking, this was well before flyers there), only to see… sharks. So many sharks. Swimming DOWN THE STREET, all around the fountain. It was hilarious–all I could think of was the classic SNL “land shark” sketch. :smiley:

I do, too! My trick is that if I get turned around, I just open my map, and that helps me figure out where I am and where I’m going. The problem is those tunnels look almost identical, so it can be pretty easy to get confused about which side you’re on.

I actually got mine pretty quickly, without farming at all (it just dropped during a daily). However, it’s just RNG looping back on me again after Mr. Pinchy, which took an almost impossible number of casts.

How *many *casts, you ask? Well, let’s put it this way. Furious Crawdad was the reagent for my buff food in TBC, and I’d go through a lot of it when wiping in raids.

What a bunch of dicks. It’s a fucking trash run, for chri.

Yup, gray items are just intended so that we have something less tedious than looting nothing but gold: it’s just “flavor” for the game. Although some people actually turn grey equippable items into outfits to wear for fun, around town, especially on roleplaying servers. Personally, I equip all of my bank alts with a Sharpened Letter Opener, a gray-quality dagger that requires level 2 to equip. :smiley:

10386

My bank alt wears a full tuxedo and monocle and carries a diamond-tipped cane. :slight_smile:

10387

Put in a night worth of attempts on Ragnaros last night with my guild. Whew, that phase transition at 40% is a doosy. Our best attempt was 38%, but we never really got the 40% sons of flame down.

Pretty fun fight though.

10388

Screenshot, please, Skammie!

Thanks
Q

10389

What they really need is a moneybag (complete with big green “$”) as an offhand…

10390

but then we would need a black & white striped prisoner’s outfit…

10391

Yesterday, I was tempted to jump into the fountain and run around in it (I don’t think one can submerge oneself) in an effort to show my frustration and evoke a laugh, but as there were 4 anglers other than me who had lines in it, I decided I had better not do that, as it would have distupted their boober signals.

Speaking of pets, I have a little sandcrawler who pops up whenever I fish. Cute, but sometimes I don’t want him there. Do I always have to manually dismiss the little frigger?

Okay, understood about the Vendor trash, but what about Abandoned Greatsword or any other weaponry? As long as there’s no grey border it can go in the vault, right?

Right now, both vaults are filled with fish primarily, so it’s a good thing, the other players can’t see me or smell it when I open the vault. I kept those fish which have health for lower level players, but as I’m a one-man guild, I think I’m going to sell them so I won’t have to buy any more bank pages.

I do have a little armor in there as well as some axes, a tiara, and a bunch of other edibles, and scrolls, scrolls, scrolls.

About getting out of the sewers: when I get tired of looking for the regular way out, I just find the place which has an opening on the other end and just fly out onSilka. So far, I’ve not forgotten to mount! :slight_smile:

Q

10392

You can actually submerge enough to be swimming. I know this because I have a trinket that turns me into a fish (from winning the Booty Bay fishing tournament), I have to be swimming to use it, and it works in the fountain.

Sounds like you’ve got an addon that’s automatically summoning a pet for you. Not sure which one it is–the one I use is GupPet.

I’m not sure about borders–I’m talking about the color the name of the item is in.

Purple: “Epic.” Amazingly good for its level.
Blue: “Rare.” Very good for its level.
Green: “Uncommon.” Good for its level.
White: “Common.” No extra stats; probably an item used for a quest, or it may be an outfit to just wear around town.
Gray: Trash designed to be gold with some flavor.

If there are no stats on the sword (e.g., +1 Stamina), you can safely sell it to a vendor.

Unless the fish give a buff, there’s not much point in keeping them. So unless the fish says something like, “If you eat for at least 10 seconds, you will gain 10 Stamina for 15 minutes,” you can sell it.

10393

In re: Quasi’s want to jump into the fountain.
Often if there’s only one or two people fishing, my gnome will jump in and swim around, then say, “Rar! I’m a big scary crocolisk! Rar!”
I usually get a laugh from the fishers. :slight_smile:

10394

I’ll try to remember to take one tonight :).

10395

Ha ha we theoretically have a core raid group listed on our guild website, but they’ve never done a single boss in Cata yet. All these raids are just put on the calendar with open signup. It’s kind of like the inner circle of officers is about 12 people, but we’re a mature guild, so chances are only 7-8 of them can be on at one time, which is where people like me that are quick on the draw sneak in to round out the group.

10396

Is there a way to make your rider animal roar/whinny or bleat? Silka does that, but I don’t click anything. Reason I ask, is because I inadverdently got in some guys way and he was riding a dragon. Was it coincidental or did he have a macro or what?

Thanks

Q

10397

Ok. That gray item is crap. It’s far inferior to anything else you might find in that zone. Why put a minimum level on it?

Twinks.

If you haven’t seen the definition, a “twink” is a low-level character decked out with the best equipment, enchantments, and accouterments conceivable for a character of such a lowly level. They’re a freakish specialization for PvP; being geared with the best of the best is disproportionately effective in PvP at low character levels.

How let’s look at a typical WotLK gray weapon: a Corroded Blade It has a minimum level of 74, but let’s pretend that isn’t there. It’s a one-handed sword that does 120-224 damage per swing, with a 2.2 speed. WowHead calculates its effective base DPS as 78.2 dps.

Now look for any other weapon which can be wielded by a level 14 twink warrior. (Why 14? that’s the highest level allowed in the lowest bracket of Warsong Gulch.) This WowHead search gives that list.

The highest DPS output in that list is a measly 15.3. And that’s for a rifle. The nearest melee weapon lags well behind at 13.2 dps. And it’s a blue. For Alliance only. For Horde, it’s quest green at 12.5 dps.

So, if I, Johnny Twinkboy, were allowed to wield any gray item I’m capable of, I’d be farming gray drops from the highest level zones my max-level alt can farm and fit myself out in a complete set of overlevel gray items.

And that, Grasshopper, is why gray items have a minimum level requirement.

10398

For ground mounts, just press space (like you’re jumping) while standing still. Air mounts don’t have that animation. Also, motorcycles don’t (but then again, motorcycles don’t bleat. :smiley: )

10399

Motorcycles do have an animation when you hit the space bar. It pops a wheelie and the engine roars.

10400

I’ve often wondered what that term meant. Okay, now I understand. Thanks, gnoitall

Q

10401

And more to the point, it’s essentially the same animation if the motorcycle is in motion; in other words, it’s part of the animation of a motorcycle jump. This is how it differs slightly from, say, a talbuk or kodo. With these, if you’re in motion and push the spacebar, you get a jump. If you’re standing still, you get some kind of thrashing or rearing animation, and a bleat or roar or snarl or whatever’s appropriate for the critter.

(I like the riding wolf one: the head turns back to the left side and the wolf snarls and snaps at your ankle. It’s like “Don’t yank on that rein or I’ll take you off at the knee!”)

And none of this applies to a flying mount, since if you press the space bar, you leave the ground and enter “flying mode”, whether stationary or in motion.