New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Ahaha, he’s like a hobo with no taste! Perfect!

Could be it’s one of the new Human models that were added with Wrath. It does look pretty smooth.

ETA: What always makes me laugh is that they don’t do anything to disguise your mounts. OH NO, DON’T MIND ME, I’M JUST A HUMAN RUNNING AROUND ON A TALBUK… OR A RAVEN LORD.

And then there’s the question of what they think of the Death Knights running around. “Die, Undead Scourge! Excuse me while I summon a ghoul to fight alongside me.”

Or Shamans of any stripe. “What the–DIE, DISGUISED HORDE SCUM!”

One thing that was mentioned in one of my Dungeons & Dragons books is that the average person in the game world really can’t tell one class of magic user from another. Maybe they can tell the difference between “priest/cleric” and “not a priest/cleric” (what with priests/clerics likely displaying a holy symbol and/or wearing recognizable clothing associated with a particular deity), but other than that they’re all “wizards” of one stripe or another. A similar concept could easily apply in WoW.

The thing that cracks me up the most about CoS is right there at the beginning with the NPCs just inside the gate- the fact that it takes four soldiers with swords and two mages something like ten seconds to take down an unarmed, unarmored, fleeing Stratholme Citizen :smiley:

Shamans are pretty distinctive. What with the totems and all.

Gotta admit SFG has a point there. Blue glowy vase things versus wooden posts with horns. :smiley:

Somebody over in the “help sum nubs” thread mentioned finding the auction house intimidating, especially when using an auction addon, so I decided to throw together a little…

Very Basic Auction House Guide

Getting the AH Addon

Download the Auctioneer suite of addons and install it. For the purposes of this guide, you can delete or disable Beancounter. Otherwise, you can play around with it on your own.

Enabling Enchantrix

Log in to your character. The one line command you’ll need to use to get full utility out of the suite is /enchantrix load always. For sure, you should do this on your auction toon, and probably on your other ones, too. (Dunno why, but Enchantrix starts out unloaded by default, and this forces it to always load.) Enchantrix is part of the addon that tells you (a) what a given item with magical properties will Disenchant into and (b) what those materials are worth. Invaluable for deciding when to sell an item as itself versus as chant mats.

The Browsing Tab

This is what your main auction window will look like. You can do all your searches here as you normally do.

AH Scans

The important addition to draw your attention to is the extra buttons across the top of the window. See the one that looks like a fast-forward button (two right-pointing arrows), the one that’s blue in this screenshot? That button will be your best friend. Clicking it will perform a super-fast scan of the entire auction house–total time required being probably somewhere between two and five minutes. When you click it, you’ll get a warning dialogue (which can be disabled), then you click it again to scan. If your computer is slow, your connection is bad, or your server is very crowded, it won’t work–but the worst that will happen is it disconnects you.

If you get disconnected when you try to run the speed scan, you’ll be stuck with the normal version, which you can launch from the play button (single right-facing arrow). The downside to the normal scan is that it can take a long time–anywhere from ten minutes to upwards of half an hour.

The ability to perform scans–and therefore build a historical database of prices–is far and away the most important capability of any addon. Every other process it pretty much just speeds up; but to maintain your own DB of auction prices and track them over time would be almost impossible. You should scan at least once a week; once a day would be even better; and every 12 hours, while slightly insane, would give the most accurate results.

The more frequently you scan and the more data you have over longer time periods, the more accurate your projected prices will be. Remember that your first scan is just a snapshot of the AH as it is at that moment–it will take at least few days before you really start seeing patterns, as opposed to any fluke auctions that may be up at the moment.

The Auctions Tab

Here is where you keep an eye on any auctions this character currently has posted. Any auctions that had been won (but the money not yet delivered because of the one-hour delay) would be listed at the top of the window. You can see the bid price (in gray because no one has bid) and the buyout price for all of the auctions I have running. If you screw something up and want to cancel an auction, this is where you go.

The Appraiser Tab

If you use Auctioneer, this is the tab you should be posting all your auctions from. When you click to the tab, you’ll see a box where you can drop the item you would like to auction–here, I’ve selected a Forest Emerald. You can either click on an item from the list on the left (it automatically populates from your bags), or you can drag an item in manually from your bags.

The first slider bar under the item is for “Stack Size”: how many items do you want each auction to consist of? I have this set to 1, because I want each auction to be for one gem.

The second slider is for “Number”: how many total stacks (of the size specified above) do you want to post? I have this set to All.

Under the Duration slider, you can set your auction to 12, 24, or 48 hours.

Across the bottom of the screen, you’ll see a listing of the most recent prices for the item. If you haven’t just run an AH scan, you’ll probably want to refresh the data (the market can change pretty quickly). Just click the Refresh button at the bottom, and you’ll soon have new data, specifically for that item.

Now that you can see what other people are selling their items for, you can set your own price. Personally, I like to set all my prices manually. Note that my interface is currently set to “Bid per item” and “Buy per item”–by clicking either button, you can change that to “per stack.” Personally, though, I like to look at everything on a per-item basis. Be sure you’re paying attention to how you’re assigning prices if you’re posting with a stack size of anything other than 1, though.

Over on the right-hand side, you’ll see a sidebar that gives a summary of information for the auction as I’ve set it up so far, including the deposit costs.

Once everything is to your liking, click “Post items” in the very bottom right-hand corner of the window, and Auctioneer will split all your items into stacks of the specified size, and post the specified number of stacks.

Item Tooltips

Here’s what a mouseover tooltip looks like when you’re using Auctioneer and Enchantrix. After the standard UI tooltip, there’s an extra window.

You can see that this item has a 99% chance to DE into one Dream Shard and a 1% chance to DE into one Abyss Crystal. The Disenchant Value lines give you information on the potential auction value of those chant mats. The Market Price line tells you (a) how many auctions of this item you’ve seen (more auctions = more accurate data) and (b) the going rate for the item, based on those auctions.

Note that the Enchanting-related lines will only appear for items that can be Disenchanted.

Totems, period. There were no Draenei Shamans at the time of CoS because there were no Draenei… not on Azeroth, anyway. The only Shamans at that time were Horde Shamans.

And even then, they only had purge, lightning shield, and bloodlust.

Okay, y’all: I’m right where I’m supposed to be, but no drake. Does he just magically appear?

Also I know I’m supposed to “talk” to him before he’ll let me mount, but what’s this stuff about “stun” and buttons 1 and 2 they speak of in thottbot?

Is it something I should have on my action bar or is it on the drake itself?

Thanks

Q

Ah, but how many shamans has the average resident of the Eastern Kingdoms likely seen at the time of CoS? IIRC, Thrall was among the first orcs to return to shamanism after they rid themselves of the demonic influence in WCIII; few, if any people in EK had ever seen a tauren, and I don’t think there had been much contact between humans and trolls in a very long time.

Or a giant protohuman blue-skinned chick running around on a chopper too small for her ass…

If you’re stood looking at the Thane’s tower, the drake is off down the path to the left. The stun button etc is your vehicle action bar that you will get when you mount the drake.

You recall incorrectly, sir. While that may have been true at one time, now both WW and the elixir will allow you to mount. Casting WW as a Shaman will dismount you, but you can re-mount again right after.

Last time I was mounted and drank the elixir I think my toon stayed mounted. Even if I’m wrong on that, again, you can re-mount right after you drink it.

Noob Internet-use mistake leads to Onionesque headline: ESRB Unintentionally Exposes E-mail Addresses of People Who Complained Over Blizzard’s Real ID System. Someone fails at using BCC…

Got my perky PUG yesterdayy. I presume this was for the have grouped with 100 random players achi?

Yup, did you read the letter that came with it? It says “we see you like PUGs, so have one on us!” (rephrased, of course)

Now there’s a good point. I’d forgotten that when they were Ye Olde Horde, they wouldn’t have had any Shamans.

We’re talking about instances in the Caverns of Time, where every non-Human race is disguised as Human. That disguise happens in the Storm Peaks, and the blue ladies are so damned huge that it would make perfect sense for their motorbikes to be tiny. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, we figured this out already. I was thinking of Levitate.

Reminder: Burning Dog Legion takes another swipe at Kael’thas tonight. 9:00 server, or earlier if we can fill a group out before then.

Talk about coincidence! I just got this quest on my Druid and tried it out last night (remembering how much I hated it on my other toons).

It’s still pretty damn hard… rather buggy and rather annoying. I’m gonna try just flying up there and killing him without the dragon next time I decide to play with the Druid.

If you do use the dragon, the general idea is to use your 2 and 3 abilities whenever available, and use 1 to fill the time between.