Don’t worry. I know the difference. I ain’t mad atcha.
No, Luke. I AM your father.
Like someone else wasn’t going to say that.
So that’s where my twin sister name L’Annakisha’s name comes from.
As a Yellow Dog Democrat I’d still like to see conclusive evidence that “voting Democratic” and “things getting better” are synonymous.
So if I opened a thread trashing New Jerseyans as crass, loud, obnoxious, vulgar, half-literate dumbasses and layabouts, you would take no offense and feel no inclination to say “no we aren’t”?
We talk real funny down here
We drink too much and we laugh too loud
We’re too dumb to make it in no Northern town*
Ya’ll know the rest.
Rednecks video with audio. (Potentially objective lyrics for the irony impaired.)
Well I would say we aren’t, but I would not reply to the idiot* that posted such generalization by saying his region is fill in the blank. That is what I meant. I would probably go on in boring detail defending NJ and pointing out what I perceive our states real foibles are at the same time.
- Please be absolutely sure I am not calling you an idiot. I am answering a what if only. I am trying not to give offense.
You can honestly state that if the person trashing New Jersey, for the UMPTEENTH TIME, came from Alabama or Arkansas or Mississippi (which, incidentally, you rarely see “Northerners are inferior” pit threads- it’s not because Southern Dopers just take for granted northern superiority), you wouldn’t make note of the irony?
Please believe me, no. I would go after the poster, not his state. Am I that odd?
BTW: seeing your edit, you realize that even Cecil regularly makes jokes at the expense of New Jersey. There are probably as many jokes about NJ as the South and even my user name is a Joke about New Jersey that I embraced instead.
Jim
Even I make jokes about New Jersey, and I am of positively seraphimic virtue.
Nitpick: Reform Judaism originated in Germany. Reform Judaism first gained hold in the US in Charleston.
I stand chorrected.
I know I’m way late to the party, as usual, but lost amidst all the pomp and snarkumstance is that in the NYT map that the OP cites to launch his diatribe shows that a whole hella number of counties in the South voted more Democratic in this election than they did in 2004. Link here. Go to the map. Go to slide #3.
Arkansas, much of Oklahoma (not really Suthern, IMHO), much of Louisiana, and much of Tennessee are redder than in 2004. Nearly all of Virginia, NC, SC, a fair amount of Georgia, sizable parts of Alabama and Mississippi, much of Florida (not really Southern either, IMHO) are bluer than in 2004. Significant parts of seven of the 13 southern states voted more Democratic than Republican. Eight if you count Texas.
Other than racism, you could plausibly argue that people in the red zones are also gun owners and worried that Mr. Obama would be tough on the Second Amendment. You could also argue that people in the red zones are more rural and religious and didn’t much care for Mr. Obama’s quip that they desperately cling to religion.
Nah. It’s much more fun to poke at old scabs, think the worst about your neighbors, laugh at the poor ignernt rednecks, and villify a region based on some selective statistics.
So they responded to the assertion that they desperately cling to God and their guns by… clinging desperately to God and their guns?
I’d be interested to see how the numbers in the South broke down among younger voters. I noticed in my hometown paper that my old (rural north Georgia) high school held a mock election and Obama won going away.
My children’s school, located just outside Jackson, MS, had a mock election as well: the kids voted overwhelmingly for Obama, while the teachers voted with a slight majority for McCain. As a Obama supporter, I find that pretty darn cool.