NFL 2023: Week 15

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It’s offensive player of the week, not passer of the week. His 71 rushing yards count as well. For most people, the Giants winning was the biggest surprise of those three games. That also counts.

I wish. And this three-game winning streak isn’t helping the chances they’ll draft his replacement next year as that pick gets worse and worse.

I’m thinking the next franchise quarterback for the Giants will be drafted in 2025. That would keep things on schedule for the Giants next Superbowl win in 2028.

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Yeah it’s a good story in the moment, but long-term it’s self-sabotage.

I used to be fully against tanking in all forms but I’ve softened on that. If your team is going to lose anyways, they may as well do it with purpose.

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Is that even possible? Trading a coach for a draft pick ?

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ICYMI

Justin Herbert of the Chargers is out for the season

Justin Herbert is out for the season: Here’s every quarterback with a season-ending injury (msn.com)

I’m definitely not starting him on my fantasy team this week

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Yep. Draft picks were exchanged when Belichick went from the Jets to the Patriots.

The agreement that brought Bill Belichick to New England 20 years ago | The Patriots Hall of Fame.

If Bill Belichick accepts and assumes a position with the New England Patriots, and reports to work on or before Monday, January 31, 2000 then, the New York Jets trade to the New England Patriots their 5th round pick in the 2001 annual NFL selection draft, and their 7th round pick in the 2002 annual NFL selection draft, and the New England Patriots trade their 1st round pick in the 2000 annual NFL selection draft (16th overall), their 4th pick in the 2001 annual NFL selection draft, and their 7th round pick in the 2001 annual NFL selection draft.

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Thanks for the reminder.

Christian McCaffrey, 16 carries, 145 yards.
Kyren Williams, 25 carries, 114 yards.
Drake London, 10 receptions, 172 yards.
Deebo Samuel, 7 receptions, 149 yards.

I’d support Devito for “Biggest Surprise” player of the week if that helps.

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Just this year the Broncos traded a 1st and 2nd for Sean Payton (and a 3rd back).

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Wow, I had no idea. Ignorance fought, thanks!

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It’s sort of starting to sound like you have sour grapes. “Anybody but a Giant!”

Did you bring the same energy when Josh Dobbs won the same award with essentially the same stats and for pretty much the same reason?

Dobbs:
20 of 30 for 158 yards, 2 TD 0 Int, 101.8 rating
7 rushes for 66 yards, 1 TD

DeVito:
17 of 21 for 158 yards, 1 TD 0 Int, 113.89 rating
10 rushes for 71 yards

Plus, I mean, come on, did the other quarterbacks you feel got robbed also complete 80% of their passes?

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Josh Dobbs shouldn’t have won the award that week either. Dak. CeeDee. Saquon. All were much more deserving.

So, can we agree? Neither Dobbs, nor Devito deserved their Offensive Player of the Week?

We could just rename it “Cool Story, Bro” of the week.

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I don’t recall you complaining about Dobbs at the time.

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Player of the Week (offensive, defensive, waterboy) is a participation award. No monetary value or even betting action (probably betting???, folks will do anything to get something on).

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Dont want to answer the question, huh. I get it.

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Zach Wilson of the Jets was named AFC offensive player of the week, which means that both New York quarterbacks were awarded the honor.

It’s obviously a conspiracy.

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No, I don’t agree. DeVito completed 80% of his passes. Name me a quarterback with a better completion percentage this week.

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Great! See, that wasnt hard. Personally, I think cherry picking one stat that suits your argument and ignoring other relevant stuff like depth of target (Devito’s intended air yards was 6.3, 27th lowest in the NFL), difficulty of throws (Devito’s 4.8 aggressiveness percentage was 2nd lowest), or the fact Drake London had more yards receiving than Devito threw for the entire game, isnt the best defense, but at least we now are debating the issue.

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Great! See, that wasn’t hard. Now instead of ignoring my question, at least we are now debating the issue.

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I feel like you want this, so here goes:

I aoologize for not following every Offensive Player of the Week award this year and expressing my opinion about it.

Feel better?

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If you’re going to complain about something, first make sure you’ve registered complaints for any similar situation in the past. Come on, this is SDMB-101, people.

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To piggyback on the above questions about trading a coach for draft picks, someone on Reddit had suggested that if a head coach were valuable enough, he could consent to be traded to another team for high draft picks in return for pay (so, for instance, the Patriots could tell Bill, “If you let us trade you to the Chargers for two 1st-round picks, we’ll pay you $60 million as a bonus”) - since there is no salary cap on coaches, only on players. Is this permitted?