NFL 2024-25: Week 14

Probably deserves its own thread, but I think the ‘new’ kickoff rules are stupid and should be abandoned.

It should have been 70, the Bills’ defense was that horrid.

Yeah, the sneak with a minute to go was indeed dumb even if not doing so only increased their chance of a win from 5% to 10%.

I have no reason to dislike the Chiefs and they seem like they’d be a lot of fun to watch but for some reason I’ve grown resentful of their never ending luck in close games and now I’m kind of this.

Chiefs do it again. Last second field goal that doinked off the left upright and went through. Nine straight division titles.

YES! This time it’s not an opposing team bad snap, or fumble, or botched kick… it’s a “hey, wow, look at that, shitty kick went through.” :roll_eyes:

The Chiefs earned six of their 12 wins at best. Imagine the same winning outcomes they got. Bears would be tied for first. :grin:

Not to worry, these kinds of super-lucky teams have a bad tendency to turn into pumpkins at the worst possible time. I am just much less sanguine now that the Bills can be the team to defeat them in the AFC playoffs, but if they get to the SB the Lions or Eagles will likely manhandle them.

From the Obscure Stats Department, the Chiefs became the first NFL team in history to win back-to-back games by the score of 19-17.

Watched Falcons / Vikings yesterday, just to root against the Vikings. Nothing personal against the fine Minnesota Vikings organization; I’d just like to see a little more daylight between the Lions and Vikes in the standings.

Alas, was not to be-- the Falcons hung in there for awhile- tied at 21 at the end of the third quarter. But the Vikes owned the 4th quarter- 42-21 Vikings. Still just one game back from the Lions-- the January 5 Lions/Vikes last regular season game could be for the division.

Question-- if the Lions and Vikings end up with the same regular-season record, I know division winner goes to who has the most division game wins, but what if that’s also a tie, which looks possible? I think it’s most overall points, right? In which case the Lions should come out on top.

Here are the rules:

https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures

  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory in all games.
  6. Strength of schedule in all games
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss

“Most overall points” isn’t even a consideration, nor should it be, because that would always favor offensive performance over defensive performance and could allow objectively worse teams to get in over better ones.

Here are the divisional tiebreakers, copied from the NFL website:

To Break A Tie Within A Division

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs

  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory in all games.
  6. Strength of schedule in all games
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss

You can find the tiebreakers for 3 or more clubs at the same Link.

Thanks!

Yeah, what I really meant was “most overall net points”, not just win points with no consideration for points allowed.

Is there any reason the Browns are holding onto their kicker?

And we got a Scorigami - Dolphins 32, Jets 26

All right!

Like many such situations, I’m guessing money.

If they cut him, that’s a lot of dead cap to absorb. He just signed a contract extension before the season. It’s a bit better if they cut him after June 1 and a whole lot better if they hold on to him through at least next season.

If this season is lost, might as well wait - replacing him now just costs them more without helping the team out in any real way.

Some guy (I think in Kentucky) bet $3.1 million on the Birds. I’m sure he had to change underwear after that last-minute incompletion that would have been a touchdown if the receiver held on. He ended up winning somthing north of $400k.

In which case that’s a consideration but a low one; only #10 out of 12 and only 2 above a literal coin flip. But yes, it’s a potential tiebreaker eventually.

You could get tickets for the Giants game yesterday for $1. So at least they haven’t resorted to paying people to attend.

Is that one Danny Dollar, so it costs ten Danny Dimes?

Interesting as I thought most of the ticket apps set floors as to how far the prices can fall.

Selling for a dollar sounds like some of the exercises I used to do in economics classes about sunk costs.