[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Gazoo *
**
You tell me this halfway through an unproductive Jimmy Smith game 
? Anyway, I’ll start Horn in place of Ismail.
Sorry, just got on.
WTF? you post a question about your starters less than an hour before one of their gametimes and then gripe when you don’t get a johnny-on-the-spot answer?
Sheesh.
I’m just fucking around with him, I’m not mad at all. I’m actually happy with the game’s outcome, the other team started Brunell at QB and he was generally unproductive. Thanks for the advice though…
And if I sound bitchy, it’s because I had McCardell starting for me tonight. :mad: So I feel your Jimmy Smith pain. Wait a minute, I should probably rephrase that so it doesn’t say “I feel your Jimmy…”
Oh well, I should still be ok for the week when Ahman Green rips the Vikes a few new holes on Sunday.
Just looked at the play-by-play for the Jaguars-Bills game on espn.com.
And you thought the game three days day ago was bad. At least you knew that game was going to be bad; the Jaguars were supposed to play like an actual NFL team.
Sheeziz. How the hell did they lose this one? They could barely move the ball for most of the day, and were it not for a fortunate fumble recovery in the first quarter and a really boneheaded Bills penalty near the end (not sure what it was, but it moved them out of field goal range), it would’ve been even worse.
Well, that’s another team knocked out of Super Bowl contention. We’re up to, what, twelve now? And with the season less than a third over. Yeesh.
Oh, BTW, good call, Gazoo. You da man. (What the hell, I wanna take something positive out of this. :))
The Jags were outplayed by the Bills for a full four quarters, in pretty much every aspect of the game. But it was a very sloppy game: the Bills kicker hooked his first two field goal attempts and the Jags snapped the ball backwards about 30 yards on their first field goal attempt in what could only be considered a canny impression of the 1985 Buccaneers. I actually watched almost the entire game and I watched most of that mess on Monday night as well. The NFL is going to have to start paying the fans pretty soon. This season is getting uglier than my brother-in-law’s fourth cousin.
Nice pick, Gazoo! It only pains me because I had picked the game this way, then read your picks and said to myself, “WTF are we thinking here? The Bills have looked pathetic all season. Now maybe if Alex Van Pelt were starting…” Especially given Gazoo’s record straight up has been even worse than mine the past couple of weeks.
Oh well, never second guess a Master!
Thanks Omniscient and Gazoo. I think Streets is the better WR as indicated by his number. I think the inconsistancy is due to a lack of passes thrown his way. Like TO, he has great breakaway speed. I’m not sure what Stokes problem is, the guy just doesn’t seem to try very hard.
DKW If they’d done it right, I’d a gree with you. but our division (NFC West) is still stupid. WTF are the Rams still doing in the NFC West. They took one of your gimme games (AZ) and threw it to us, but now the NFC West will be a weaker division with the addition of AZ and Seattle.
And did I mention the Rams are still in the NFC west? Why because St. Louis is slightly left of Mississippi?
Sometimes I think the owners never looked at a map of the US.
Tomorrow’s headlines:
**VIKINGS BEAT PACKERS
bin LADEN SURRENDERS, DISARMS AL QAEDA, JOINS BOB GUCCIONE IN NATIONALLY TELEVISED “TRIBUTE TO WORLD PEACE AND TITS”
REP. GARY CONDIT RESIGNS, EXPRESSES OVERDUE THANKS TO SEPT. 11 HIJACKERS
MICHAEL JACKSON RETIRES, RETURNS BEATLES SONG RIGHTS TO MCCARTNEY: “I’M A SAD, RIDICULOUS MAN”**
Wow, another beating on the picks. I’m going to start on next week right now. Thankfully, I’ll more time to work on it this time.
Green Bay just tried harder to give it away than the Vikings did.
Um, thanks, I guess.
I just have to say, Gazoo I love your weekly football thread. Please keep them coming.
And for Weirddave, and I mean this in the most repectfull possible way,…NeanerNeanerNeaner. 
Sorry, it took us 5 games to win one from Art’s team and I enjoyed todays game immensely. But I do wish you well when not playing Cleveland.
Wow…upset central this week.
The Rams continue to look like the class of the league. One only wishes they would act the part. Martz may be a great football coach, but he sure acts like an ass.
The Packers continue to be an enigma to me. To look so good one week, and so…mediocre… the next. The Vikings were very fired up, but the Packers just seemed to come out so lackluster.
I will be very interested in tomorrow’s games. Can the Giants avoid the upset bug that spread like wildfire this week? Can the Eagles finally get over the hump? It should be good.
The top 5 shockers of Week 6:
-
Detroit is the last team without a win. Repeat, Detroit is the last team without a win. I have no love for this unit, as I’ve made clear last week, but I honestly never expected them to be this bad. This is not the worst-run team in the league by any means, and they actually seemed to improve after losing Barry Sanders (the “Ewing Rule”, which, personally, I find unbelievably perverse). Now they’re on the bottom and there’s not a whole lot of relief in sight.
-
Not one team in the AFC looks like a serious Super Bowl contender. The AFC East (which, thank goodness, will no longer exist after this season) will, as always, 1) be a dogfight for the entire season, then 2) produce up to three playoff teams 3) which do not win the Super Bowl. The “bottom five” teams in the AFC Central are virtually interchangeable; none look very strong right now. KC is just horrible, Denver looked very weak today and may not even make the playoffs, and Seattle has yet to win a big game. Pittsburgh, Oakland, and San Diego look good, but by definition a Super Bowl contender must have more than a snowball’s chance of winning the Super Bowl, something all three teams have disavowed themselves of repeatedly over the past decade. Things could change this year, but with St. Louis dominating and Green Bay making a resurgence, I doubt it.
If I had to pick the AFC Championship right now, I’d say Oakland at Pittsburgh. Which Pittsburgh wins, of course. 
-
There really are complete idiots out there who actually whine about opposing teams “running up the score”. Happened today after the Rams-Jets game, when the Rams went for an onside kick despite already having a big lead. Look, crybabies…this is the NFL. You’re not being paid half a million to get slaughtered by some upper-division powerhouse. You are upper division, and you’re expected to play like it. And for crying loud, what’s the friggin’ point in emphasizing the fact that you can’t compete? My god. Grab a blankie and quit bothering me. (BTW, the Jets were all playing way back on that onside kick and never expected it. That’s the situation that you’re SUPPOSED to go for the surprise onside kick in.)
-
There are actually serious arguments going on about what “style” the Rams offense uses or whether they’re “strong” or “finessey” or whatever. News flash…they’re 6-0. Who gives a crap what meaningless subcategory they are; it’s working.
-
The end of the Arizona-KC game. It went completely according to Hoyle for 58 minutes. Arizona builds a lead, but the other team has the ball last. Naturally, this means that their defense will suffer a complete meltdown and the opposing offense will burn them for the winning score. I’ve seen this happen a million times. Lo and behold, KC gets downed on the 1 after a punt and proceed to fly down the field. But with just 2 yards to go…IT’S AN INTERCEPTION!! Which means that not only do they lose, but if they had two more minutes on the clock at the start of the drive, they would have lost! To me, their astonishing failure to make Arizona throw away the game at the end proves, beyond any doubt, that they’re just awful.
Oh, and a bit of advice, Weirddave…don’t count your BZZZZTs before the judges have made them official. (I just crack me up sometimes… :p)
The announcers mentioned this during the game today. They said something along the lines of “If you’re the defense and you don’t want the score run up on you - Stop them!”
What do you guys think about David Patten?
Fluke? Will he get the nod when Glynn is healthy? Any NE’ers that can give me the scoop?
mouth, I had Patten for the bulk of the season last year and he was a total letdown. Granted he was on a bad Browns team without Couch. He’s said to be a big play guy, and he usually has a high average yards/catch. He’ll be streaky if he’s used this way in NE too. Last year he also had a habit of getting 70+ yards and never finding the endzone. He hasn’t been a possesion guy, nor has he been money in he redzone. Those are two things you need out of starting WRs. He’d be a solid backup I’d say, and he seems to be getting some good looks from Brady, so it might be worth the risk depending on who you have to drop.
Take all this with a grain of salt since I don’t get to actually watch many Cleveland or NE games in my neck of the woods unless they are in primetime.
OK, I might be the first guy to ever get more spreads correct than actual wins.
Looking at the teams I committed to in my synopsis my record is:
5-4 against the spread
2-7 straight up
What the hell is that?
Granted I didn’t actually committ to final scores, but I usually said who’d win and who’d cover. How often are you actually better against the spread than straight up? What the hell kind of week is this?
I will say that thanks to Mr. Batch the pot is going to roll over again…off to start research for this coming week!
I hereby retract the above. Oy!
Their defense is still tough against the run. There’s no doubt about that. But last year, everyone went in wanting to establish the run anyway. Big mistake. The Bears, of all teams, showed the rest how to play the Ravens. Spread the offense, especially on 1st and 2nd down.
Now, you’ve taken Goose and Adams out of it. You’ve got Lewis trying to play pass coverage, and their outside rushers just aren’t that great (Goose and Adams will stuff the middle, but they’re not much on Pass rush). Keep doing it, and the Ravens don’t know which package to put in.
The Bears, as I said, exposed it. The Packers exploited it. The Browns, well, they tried to exploit it, didn’t have the talent and got a couple of close plays that went their way.
The Ravens are still a good team. The defense is still solid if not “record-setting.” The O-Line and rushing game are worrisome. Grbac can’t get beat up every week and still be effective. He’s not that mobile. The WRs are suspect. They may need a boost from a mobile QB like Cunningham, who will hit the wide open receiver or take it himself if their aren’t any.
Just my analysis.