Yes, the hyoo-mans are highly illogical. In my many years observing them, I have noticed that they often say things that have no real meaning or that do not convey new information. It’s almost as if they were engaging in some grooming or social bonding activity. Very, very strange.
It appears to be new information to many people, or at least a reminder to some people that they seem to have forgotten this.
After all, if you truly believe that this is something you already know and hold true, there would be nothing in it that would upset you and you would simply agree with it.
Yes, that Ferguson. If you go on a burning/looting rampage that would be the wrong way to protest.
What “right way” do you think would have worked?
“What do we want?”
“Justice!”
“When do we want it?”
“Well, pretty soon, if its not going to be a lot of trouble…”
NOT rioting and burning the town.
I don’t think any of us think destructive riots are a good thing.
But if that is the only thing you can focus your anger on to the point of ignoring the horrible injustices and damage that was being done to the community, then you’re just looking for excuses to ignore those injustices.
Some of us think “Wow, that was bad. I hope their community gets their shit together and gets rid of all these asshole cops and judges that are causing this pain.”
Which is something very hard to achieve.
That is a chickenshit non-answer if I ever heard one, but not entirely unexpected.
Care to actually answer the question?
I hope their community gets their shit together and stops killing each other. Black on black murder is by far the biggest threat. It means there is a higher disregard for life and this behavior increases the likelihood of getting shot by the police.
The idea within the AA community that society values black lives less is likely influenced by the murders within their community.
So again, you’d much rather ignore all of the injustices black people suffer at the hands of a racist society and instead deflect the blame back on them for all their ills.
Got it. We know who you are. You’re just confirming it here.
A lot of Americans hate black culture and society and think it’s very inferior, and love to highlight disparate statistics that have a whole lot of history of brutality and oppression behind them, blaming the “black community” even though the vast majority of black Americans are peaceful and decent, as evidence of this supposed cultural/societal/communal inferiority.
This is very sad as well as harmful to this country, and certainly contributes to the widespread policies and practices that treat black lives as less valuable than other lives. It also, of course, regularly ignores facts like that about half of all black Americans, in polling, report that they personally have been mistreated by police, while only about 3% of white Americans report the same. If you believe that black people are inherently dishonest, then this is probably easy to dismiss – all those blacks reporting personal mistreatment by law enforcement are lying – but for those of us who believe that black people are just as honest and decent as everyone else, facts like these are extremely troublesome and indicative of a major problem in the country.
I did answer and it was a valid response. Do the opposite of theft and destruction.
And why would I answer your question when you respond in such a childish manner? What would be the point? Why don’t you tell us your solutions.
I don’t see how you can function from day to day believing this without it affecting how you interact with others.
I could not agree more. Going through life thinking this will negatively affect one’s life. Assuming people hate you will become a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Very good question – does your belief that black people as a whole in America (the “AA community” as you call it) are responsible for the relatively few who are violent among them affect how you interact with black people?
You: That is the wrong way to do it!
Me: What then is the right way to do it?
You: That is the wrong way to do it!
Let’s not even pretend that you had an actual answer in mind but since I hurt your feelings you are going to withhold it from us-That is the oldest excuse in the book.
What would be the point? To point out a way to accomplish what is needed, of course.
Pretending people don’t hate your culture and/or race makes it go away? What you are saying is victim-blaming at it’s worst.
You can’t blame black on black violence on racism. You can’t. This is 2018, not 1950. The problems in society are pretty basic. If you want to succeed then stay in school, learn a trade, and act in a collectively positive way with the people around you. If you want children then wait until you can afford to meet their financial and social needs.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
True, but the fact that blacks are disproportionately poor in the US can be blamed on racism (both current and past), and people growing up in poverty are more likely to run afoul of the law. So I wouldn’t go so far as saying that blacks kill each other at the rate they do because white people are racist, but racism is an important component in producing the current conditions in the US (e.g., high poverty rates among blacks) which in turns leads to higher crime rates. And since we live in a society that is, to a large extent, still segregated, it should be no surprise that the higher many of these crimes occur in the areas with higher poverty rates.
But this is a hijack of the thread topic, so I’m not going to pursue this argument any further. Feel free to have the last word in our conversation. I’m sure there will be other posters who are happy to continue the hijack if you are inclined to keep it going.
Many folks believe that today’s society is a perfect meritocracy, and things like racism and bigotry and oppression don’t exist any more. This makes it extremely easy to ignore the plight of the disadvantaged, since by this belief, any struggles and difficulties in life are one’s own fault.
This makes no sense. How is black on black violence victim blaming? And how is it a function of non-black people’s supposed hatred?
Pretending the failure within the AA community is because other people hate them does not explain the collapse in the education system. If the children don’t take it seriously they WILL fail in life. The social structure necessary to make that happen cannot be taken away or forced upon a child.
We had the national average of black people in my school when I was growing up in the 60’s and 70’s. To my knowledge not one of them failed to succeed as long as they put in the time and effort of their peers. “The Man” didn’t keep them down. We were not a rich community so the majority of kids put themselves through college or trade school because that was what was expected of them. It took me 12 years to get a 4 year degree while working full time. I hated it but I got through it.
It’s time you stopped listening to the politicians who destroyed your community with generational welfare and take back the opportunity that is rightfully yours.