GO-He finished #2.
Wow - so unless I’m wrong - I guess the Packers ended up getting screwed in the end by the replacement-refs clusterfuck at the end of the Seattle game? Not to hijack this thread, but had the Packers won that game, they’d have gotten the #2 seed (and the ‘bye’) correct?
No argument there. I don’t think the single-season rushing record will ever be broken and am amazed that Peterson came as close as he did. And a class act too during the on-field interview.
I went into this week not really caring since Denver was already in and didn’t think they could do much to improve their seeding. Thanks to NFL RedZone, I spent most of an afternoon watching a week of football that I didn’t think I would be watching since it turns out more was up for grabs than I realized, especially in the later games. And I think I may have won the SDMB Salary Cap league, especially with three touchdowns by Peyton, two to Decker.
I was pretty sure that last field goal was a miss, too, I was excited. Over the upright. Just saw a replay, still looks like it might’ve been barely outside to me. If Peterson doesn’t win MVP this year, it’s kind of a joke. Well, more of a joke than it already is.
Peterson is 2nd. Jamal Lewis was #2 with 2,066 in 2003. Now he’s 3rd.
Nm. Doublepost.
Why should he win MVP for almost breaking a record? If he had been replaced by any of a dozen running backs, the Vikings may or may not have squeaked into the playoffs, but nobody thinks they’re going to do much, even now.
On the other hand, thanks to Manning, the Broncos have a week off and home field advantage throughout the playoffs, and IMO it will be an upset if they don’t win it all. He has made a tremendous difference to his team.
Peterson may be the better athlete, and he may have had the most impressive season of anyone this year. But Manning was more valuable to his team.
He should be MVP because he was the only offensive weapon (well, half the season with Percy Harvin) on a bad team that had no one else to carry them. The defense was keyed in on him every play and yet he still put up monster numbers week after week. The idea that any back could’ve replaced him is pretty ridiculous - Minnesota is a 3-4 win team without him, and they’re in the playoffs with him. Who can make a better case than that? Denver got to the playoffs with Tebow, they’d have gotten to the playoffs with any of the top 20 starters at QB in their lineup, but you couldn’t say the same about minnesota and their RB.
He’s MVP even without the injury story.
“Most valuable player” doesn’t mean “best player on the best team”, it means the player that makes the most difference to his team.
An excellent precedent. Lewis did exactly what Peterson did this year – almost broke Dickerson’s record, and got his team into the playoffs. For that, he was awarded Offensive Player of the Year, but not MVP.
They should do the same for Peterson.
Lambeau in January. High in the mid 20s next weekend. Minnesota is an indoor team. That is what I call a real longshot.
OJ had the best season, then Dickerson, then Peterson.
This is true.
Jeez, ask me a hard one. Indy did worse than the Vikes last year, and they did better than the Vikes this year, even with the unexpected loss of their head coach during the regular season.
But Andrew Luck isn’t going to be MVP, even though he arguably made a bigger difference than any other single player this year, including Peterson and Manning. Why? Because the difference he made was not enough to make his team a Super Bowl contender.
Indy is going nowhere in the playoffs. The Vikes are going nowhere in the playoffs. Denver will be heavily favored to beat everyone they meet in the playoffs, with the exception of New England, whom Denver will only be mildly favored to beat.
MVP may not mean best player on the best team, but it sure doesn’t mean best player on the worst team. It means the player who’s made the greatest contribution to his team’s great success. If you make the greatest contribution to a mediocre team, or even one that got into the playoffs by an inch, that isn’t good enough.
It may have ultimately screwed the Bears too. Had Seattle lost that game they’d be tied with the Bears. They obviously won the head-to-head so it might be moot (not sure how that works for Wild Card tiebreakers), but the Bears and Seahawks would have ended up with the same record and same conference record. Ironic.
Incidentally, which tie-breaker has the Vikings ahead of the Bears? Divisional record? If so, it seems weird that that matters in the Wild Card.
I have a feeling the voters will give it to ADP. I think there’ll be a nostalgic effect in seeing a truly transcendent RB season in this era. Plus I think his injury comeback is more impressive than Peyton’s which also could be a tiebreaker.
There’s certainly a case to be made for Peyton due to his teams overall record and the inherent value of a QB to his team’s fortunes, but the fact that none of his stats were league leading and the fact that the Broncos were a playoff team last year will make it tough to argue for him. If Peyton wins the MVP it’s basically a statement that the MVP can never be anything other than a QB on a winning team. In the literal sense of the term that might be true, but I don’t think voters are quite there yet.
You think MVP means most valuable to his team. That’s not the only definition. If it means the most difficult to replace, I think that’s a different question and I think there are 5 or 6 QBs in the NFL that could have done what Peyton did this year. There isn’t a single one that could have done what ADP did.
QBs are the most important player in professional sports. There’s always a case to be made that the best QB in the NFL should be the MVP. That said, statistically Brady, Rodgers, Ryan and RG3 all can make a case to be better this year.
However, Peterson just stamped his ticket to the Hall of Fame and pretty much locked up the title of “best RB of his generation”. There isn’t much more valuable than that.
I must have missed this. Little help?
It has something to do with a coach pulling out the red flag and throwing it on the field to challenge a call, even when the call is already under an “automatic challenge from the booth” because it’s either a score, or a turnover.
Something crazy happened during a Lions game (on Thanksgiving?) and a similar thing happened tonight.
I don’t even begin to understand the “spirit” of the rule, so I won’t bother explaining the intent. All I can figure is that you royally fuck yourself as a coach if you throw the red beanie, when the call is being automatically reviewed.
Why the refs don’t just pick it up, hand it back, say “no need boss, we’re already reviewing it”, I have no clue.
Gotcha. I take it McCarthy threw the red flag and wasn’t penalized when he should have been?
As Enginerd said, Burfict is an absolute STEAL as a UDFA. The guy has been playing extremely well, especially for a rookie, and I look for him to take over from Maualuga at MLB next season. He’s a great story, too, the way he was projected as a first round pick, tumbled out of the draft due to weight, personal fouls issues and a poor pro day and wrote letters to every NFL team to give him a chance, which the Bengals did.
And so the Bengals will play Houston in the first round again. I am a lot more confident in their chances against the Texans this go around than I was last season.
No, they Packers were penalized. But, it was also reviewed, which was correct because the ref said the buzz to review came before the red flag was thrown.