NFL Week 17

This is hilarious. I like Marvin Lewis, he seems like a great guy, but it is time for him and the Bengals to both move on.

I’d never even heard of weck until this very minute. Sounds good, except for the au jus part (never been a big fan of that; I prefer my sandwiches non-soggy). So basically a prime rib sandwich.

It’s not served wet at all. It’s just a beef sandwich on a salt-and-caraway studded roll. Here’s a typical photo of it. It is damned delicious, though (and my favorite Buffalo treat.)

Wiki describes it as rare roast beef on the weck with the top half treated with horseradish sauce and au jus.

My personal qualification: the horseradish sauce has to be ground horseradish (marinated in vinegar) in sour cream and nothing more. I love that stuff; usually any other additive cuts the sharpness of the main ingredients.

There is some jus on it, I suppose, but it’s not what I’d consider a wet sandwich. When I think “wet” I think of an Italian beef, dipped, sandwich or a torta ahogada. This is just enough jus to add contribute flavor and moistness to the dish, without making the dish sloppy to eat. And the horseradish is a pretty straightforward affair at Charlie the Butcher’s. See here for a picture. It’s pretty much just straight prepared horseradish.

How have I never heard of or eaten beef on weck. It looks ridiculously good.

Also, my iPhone seems to have a personal grudge against the word “weck” and really does not want me to type it.

Although this is veering dangerously close to Cafe Society territory, “beef on weck” is short for “beef on kimmelweck (roll)”. Kimmelweck is a kaiser roll (S. Ger.:weck - roll), topped with caraway seeds (Ger: kümmel) and kosher salt. Origins of the kimmelweck are not well established, but it definitely comes from the Buffalo area, and it is a tasty bread. Beef on weck is “good eats.”

In completely non-eating news, the Packers have now fired three assistants, and booted their GM upstairs. It’s a wholesale house-cleaning, with only beloved head coach Mike McCarthy surviving, from the looks of it.

So, Green Bay goes 9-7, and cleans house. Cleveland goes 1-31, and the GM gets booted. Yeah, that’s gonna work for you. <smh>

This is what annoys me the most about this kind of stuff: too many times I’ve seen HC’s or other management staff blamed because their team had a bad year when half their talent was injured. Nothing and no one are going to compensate for the loss of Aaron Rodgers or T.J. Watt or OBJ, and it’s the coaches/GM who get blamed for it.

Granted, there may be other issues involved (witness the very public mishandling of the Giants’ personnel problems), but it sure seems to be a regularity.

Eh, the defensive side of the ball has been a pretty consistent weakness since the Super Bowl season. The wolves have been howling for Capers’ head for a long time now, and the front office seems to finally agree. Personally, the 7-9 season served more as cover as anything else. As for Ted Thompson, they’ve been grooming Eliot Wolf for YEARS, and he’s reportedly turned down GM positions elsewhere over the last few years. It wouldn’t surprise me if he finally said “Enough is enough, give me the job or I’m heading somewhere else,” and the Packers acquiesced. When you have a homegrown GM ready to go, why stick with the guy that mentored him and is only a year or two from retirement. Rumors state TT was forced out by the board of directors because of health concerns, so nobody knows the real story but the main players.

Hue Jackson deserves every possible shred of blame you can lay at his feet. Deshone Kizer may never be an All-Pro, but he definitely showed signs of being serviceable, with time and commitment (something the Browns NEVER show in their quarterbacks). Jackson’s in-now, out-now, in-now carousel had to screw with Kizer’s head more than I could imagine, and now you’ve got another dud at QB, with the Browns likely to draft yet another one. If they ruin Mayfield too, I’d advocate they take the franchise away from Jimmy, citing conduct detrimental. The lovable loser routine only works if they look like they’re trying to win. If the Browns organization, as a whole, is TRYING to win, I’d hate to see what a tank would look like.

The Browns didn’t have a lot of serious injury issues (and Haslam nonsensically kept Hue). But then their recent history is all about dysfunction anyway. They have the talent on paper, which leads me to believe that it’s about the coaches/staff in that particular case.

They’re still an expansion team, after all this time. Even the Bucs were able to lift themselves out of mediocrity within a few years of their inaugural season.

Mediocrity would be a step up for the Browns. They’ve finished last in the division all but 3 years since the realignment - in 2002.

To be fair, the AFC North isn’t the easiest draw in the league either. The Steelers and Ravens (and occasionally the Kitties) are tough opponents. But that’s at most only 6 of 16 games.

Looks like Football Johnny is signing with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. Maybe Manziel’s grown up a little and can work his way back up to the Browns.

I came across this WWE/Bills/Ravens mashup that a Bills fan made.

It’s pretty damn epic!

Awesome! The new Texas Rattlesnake.

If you ask me (I know, you didn’t :slight_smile: ), that was the golden age of pro wrestling. Gotta hand it to McMahon, he put together a helluva good group of wrestlers.

I feel really, really sorry for the football fans in Cleveland. They in no way deserve what’s been done to them.

I say this as someone who since 1970 has rooted for the Bengals (at the time, I felt the need to root for an AFL team to go with my even longer love for the Packers; little did the 10-year-old me realize that the leagues were merging!). I have been annoyed by the Browns over the years on many an occasion, as they interfered with the Bengals. But, as annoying as it used to be to go into the Mistake By The Lake and play them with their fans howling at us, I had to admit that they had some pretty damn good fans, loyal and loud.

Then, of course, their team gets stripped from them. They didn’t deserve that at all.

But the fact that they got their team replaced with the current edition of the “Browns” is the real tragedy. This team has done nothing in a decade and a half to justify their fans having any desire to be fans. If there is a worse-run team in the league over that time frame, I don’t know what franchise it is (though at times, the Bengals do seem to make a run at the title).

1-31. That’s worse even than the original Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I thought that sort of hideousness was never going to be replicated.

If I’m John Dorsey, I stick with Kizer and trade away the first pick to one of the QB-needy teams for a boatload, then work on improving their O-line.

But, of course, I’m sure that would make too much sense. :slight_smile:

Somehow I think you and I are the only ones that appreciate or even like this. It’s hysterical to me.

So why drop the Bengals now, when they need you the most?