I’ve read the original article and the OP is a bit confused. The casting call was for EXTRAS ONLY for the new movie, and it specified they should be of a certain size range (not very skinny), but with a ‘lean, dancer’s body’ and no breast implants please. I assume this has a lot to do with the period costumes and corseting in these films - breast implants, especially saline ones, do not work so well with corseting.
Keira Knighly being too ‘old’ for these movies at a youthful-looking 25 is a rumour and ridiculous. I’m sure she just wants to move on from this tired franchise.
I think you’re kidding yourself if you think that this indicates a move away from an unrealistic depiction of female beauty. The women are still going to be beautiful beyond the comprehension of average people.
True enough. It’s like Hollywood’s current embracing of Gabourey Sidibe indicating that from now on, they are going to cast all sizes of women in all kinds of roles. Yeah, right.
I dunno. If fashion magazines and advertisers started hiring models that look like they’ve actually had a meal recently, I think the public would adjust/accept it as normal.
On the fake boob thing—I don’t think ginormous boobs do much to enhance a woman’s attractiveness. If she chooses to do it because she wants to have a massive rack, so be it, but if she asked me for an opinion, I’d likely vote against it.
The following is a strange pair of sentences to find together:
“Women shouldn’t think they have to artificially change their body just to make themselves look better to others. And fake breasts are ugly!”
What, so, women should keep natural breasts just to make themselves look better to others?
IMO women should try to make themselves look better, or not, as they themselves choose. There should be no judgment passed on them for this. Meanwhile, some people like breasts that are fake, others like breasts that are natural. There’s no judgment to be had here either–it’s a personal matter. Getting a boob job to become better looking then, can be a viable strategy for some women looking for men in some demographics, and I can see no reason this can serve, in itself, as a grounds for making judgments about that woman’s character or intellect.
I can see how someone might criticize the general practice of judging beauty by breast shape, sort of. But I can’t see how someone can criticize the general practice of judging beeauty by breast shape–and then immediately judge a woman publicly concerning her beauty in terms of her breast shape by saying her breasts are ugly because artificial. That seems like hypocracy to me.
I know a gal with a big set of fakers. They look silly to me, but they make her happy. She really enjoys showing them off and being trailed around by drooling morons.
I’d find that creepy, but It’s her call.
I think you’re kind of missing the point; the size of a woman’s breasts shouldn’t be so important, and neither should her looks, either for her to judge herself or for others to judge her. Yeah, I know we get into these never-ending loops of judging woman who do get breast implants, etc., but I would be happier if we saw the rates of cosmetic breast augmentation surgery dropping instead of shooting up like they are.
How am I missing what point? Many in this thread have thought it appropriate to register their aesthetic opinion about fake breasts, thereby judging women’s looks based on breast shape and size. I commented on that. What’s the point I missed?
Yes, as I was saying
Why? Why does it matter to you whether some person places silicone into her breasts or not?
I can think of a few possible answers. Is it because you find such breasts aesthetically displeasing? Is it because you think she’s harming herself? Is it because you think women shouldn’t care what others think of their breasts? Is it because you don’t think people should care about women’s breasts? Is it because you think women are factually incorrect when they estimate that fake breasts make them look, on average, better to average (or their own chosen demographic subset of the population of) men? Or did I not think of something?
If there is a debate here, and there may not be, I suppose it would be the question, “Can exploitive media like British tabloid newspapers and Playboy play an important role in improving the self0image of women? Ought they to?”
I’m SO sick of the “oh you’re being judgemental” attitude about women who’ve had plastic surgery. I’m sorry, but so many of them have really deep seated emotional issues and are buying into majorly superfical values.
I don’t get it. I just don’t get it. It’s like they’re stuck in 8th grade at the height of superfical narcissiticism.
But actresses don’t depend solely or even mainly on the appearance of their breasts. Hopefully a lot of them depend on their acting talent. Strippers and pornstars - that’s where you find nearly everyone has implants, because they do directly depend on their appearance when naked.
I think you’re conflating two different opinions that are on the same side of the “debate”.
Some people hate implants because they think they are ugly. These people, presumably, would be okay with implants if they didn’t look/feel fake and plastic-like.
Some people hate implants because they think it’s sad some women are pressured to have surgery just to fit in with society’s idea of beauty. These people presuamably, would be against implants even if implants perfectfully simulated natural breast tissue.
Some people are a mixture of both, but I don’t there is any inconsistency there. You can be mad that women go to such outrageous lengths to be beautiful, and be vexed when the outcome actually detracts from you believe is attractive.
Fortunately, the marketplace is a wonderful aggregator of public opinion, much better than abstract discussion of What People Should Like. If it’s uneconomical to hire pretty starlets, then homelier ones (perhaps with better acting talent) will be cast. This happens not to be the case.
I think you can look at the process to know how people get there - breast augmentation surgery is expensive, painful, and dangerous (as with all anesthetic surgical procedures, there is a risk of dying from it); logic tells me that people don’t undergo this because they have a healthy opinion of how they look before surgery. And yes, it is my opinion about other people’s bodies; I think people look just fine without surgical procedures.
For the record, I understand that my opinions on plastic surgery are fairly far out on the radical edges; the only plastic surgery I really support is reconstructive surgery or surgery where there is an actual medical need. Does it help at all to know I was raised in a Mennonite community?
