No, I don't have 'Short-Man Complex'... YOU have the complex!

Hey Diff T (and blowero) How you doin?!

I still don’t get the anger directed at Joanne. The OP refers to her as a friend. That being the case, do we believe she said to herself:

a) “I’m going to fix Sue up with this interesting guy that I know. Even though he is shorter than her, it shouldn’t matter and I think they’ll hit it off.”

or

c) “I’m going fix Sue up this short guy I know.

I suppose she could be guilty of being shortsighted, but I don’t find the malice given the small amount of information here. Yes, I saw her admission that she knew her friend preferred taller men, but again I assume she thinks highly of the OP.

But that’s just me. The OP might want to tell Joanne that she owes him a vigorous screw since the date didn’t go anywhere. But that is just me as well.

Hell, that’s me too!!!

You’re 5’5"? That’s not short. Not to me, anyway. But I’m only 5’1". To me, everyone’s tall.

But if I were you, I wouldn’t be angry. I’d be completely relieved. Relieved that you didn’t have to waste an evening with such a pathetic loser.

I could see maybe being shocked if you…oh, I don’t know, maybe had two heads or something. But hell, the outside just doesn’t matter. As long as both of your heads had really nice brains in them, I’d be okay with it. :slight_smile:

But ditching you like that because you’re three inches shorter than her? Please. That’s just stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Wait, how tall is your friend? Do you really look down on her? :smiley:

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

I’m NOT blowero… you probably shouldn’t make accusations like that. If you need proof, why don’t you go to a Moderator. Isn’t there a way to figure out if their IP is the same or something? It’s not cool to assume things like that, with out anything to back it up. If that’s what you were doing.

Thanks everyone for the support. If I gather anything from the responses, it’s that it’s ok to be pissed at Joanna, but not forever.

I don’t plan on letting her go as a friend, she’s my best one and that counts for something. I will never believe that it wasn’t, in part her fault. I know I said I complained to her that she set me up with an ass, but that was only often the fact that she told me she lied to Sue. And I didn’t really complain that much about her setting me up with a woman like that at all. In fact, now that I’m thinking about it, I’m not sure if I EVER said anything bad to her about her poor judgment. I might have asked why she lied about my height (not in a “WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO THAT!!” sort of way). I did however tell her how humiliating it was, and how much of an asshole her friend must be. Then she said the Napoleon thing. I also don’t know why she didn’t AT LEAST stick up for me. She’s the type of gal who ALWAYS wants people to feel great about who they are, but in this case she didn’t at all. I think she REALLY felt guilty, and every time I would bitch about Sue, it hurt her feelings because deep inside she knows she’s a little (lot?) to blame, and she lashed out placing the blame on me. I didn’t even bitch that much either. I bitched to you guys more than I did her. I didn’t want to do it in the first place, but she said it would mean a lot to lonely old Sue if she had a guy friend.

It was humiliating, I already bought the tickets too. I was WAY too shell-shocked to see a movie ALONE. That was one of the worst experiences I’ve ever had. I told Sue on the phone (talked to her once for about 5 minutes at Joanna’s house after Joanna handed me the phone, that I didn’t want to it to really be a “date”, just a friendly thing. The girl couldn’t even be a friend with someone like me!?

I totally take responsibility for not giving you the whole story, it was eating me up inside, and I didn’t want to go to work that pissed. So I rushed a post.

One thing I did wrong was pay for her ticket. I should never have done that… It’s just that she was late, and I thought I was doing us a favor. I would never have anticipated that to happen.

Like I said, I didn’t give you guys all the info, and that’s my bad.

To all the women posters who like/date shorter men, God bless you sweet-sweet souls! Because of your posts alone my next few days are going to be a lot better, thanks, even if you can’t help but love us little fellers.

:eek: :smack: :smiley: :wally

I don’t think Joanna should’ve set the two of you up if she knew that her friend was a shortist.

(rereading my post)

Sorry I’m such a dyslexic fool! :slight_smile:

If you ever want to , um, explore your options, give me a call. I’m a guy whose VERY keen on short men. Well, men shorter than me (I’m 5’ 8")

I have fond memories of blokes whose nice snug little butt fitted very comfortable into the palm of one hand…

But I feel your pain about that unthinking Napoleon Syndrome crap. It hurts so much more from people you consider friends, doesn’t it?

Redboss

A crass idiot insults and rejects even casual companionship of someone on the basis of height, and there’s somehow a question? I don’t THINK so. Your friend, even if a bit misguided, was possibly misled into believing the wench was capable of conducting herself somewhat politely in mixed society.

Fortunately, anybody this crude and selfish probably picks her nose at the table and you ain’t out nuthin’. Even the most casual date/set-up is just a chance to get to know another person. Not a fast-track to life time vows, just, y’know, socializing. Even if the hidden, hopeful “what-ifs” don’t transpire, at the very least you’ve had the chance to meet a friend. Most dates don’t end with the One, but that doesn’t mean free rein to blow off everything “less”.

I’m 5’11" barefoot and the absolute sexiest, funniest, toughest, best company guy I ever dated punched in at 5’4". Any woman who cries “Height!” is just as shallow and stupid as any guy who cries, “Fat!”

Don’t waste another minute of your time even thinkin’ about the loser, Diff T.

Veb

Are you sure that’s what that meant? I thought she was hitting on us.:smiley:

blowero is correct. Diff T - “How you doin?!” is what Joey from Friends says when he’s hitting on someone.
I was going to just say it to Diff T until i read all of the posts and saw that blowero was also 5’5". Sorry about the confusion.

The Economist had an interesting article about this and other issues faced by those who are not terribly tall many years ago, reproduced here:

http://www.shortsupport.org/News/0106.html
I can understand a woman not wanting to date someone shorter than themselves. I think it is close-minded, but I sort of understand it. (I also understand a man would not want to date someone taller than themselves, which is also close-minded.)

The ones that kill me are the women who only look at guys who are a certain number of inches taller than themselves. It’s particularly funny to read through the personal ads in any major newspaper or online, where you see ads put in by 5’4" women who are looking for someone kind, sensitive, loves animals, honest, straightforward, into the inner person, and 6’0" or taller. I mean, WTF?

Maybe your friend is on to something. You’ve come across as rather hyper-defensive with this response.

I’m 5’8" tall.

I have suffered discrimination all my life and I’m not ‘that’ short. I can’t imagine the hell a guy 5’6" or less must suffer.

I’m kind of on the edge. I am almost taken seriously by women. Almost but not quite. I estimate that about 2/3 of eligable women are unavailable to me because of my height. Now that I’m married, it doesn’t matter but when your single it is hard enough to find someone when you have near 100% available to you instead of 1 out of 3.

I think it’s hard for most people to understand the systematic discrimination there is. You really are perceived as less mature, not taken as seriously and so on. I am positive that I had to quit one job because I wasn’t promoted mainly because of height. I didn’t seem to be taken as seriously as others.

I took this idea seriously enough to do something about it on my next job and to try on the opposite sex when I turned 30. I found myself elevator shoes and items that increased my height to seem about 5’11". I don’t think it was my imagination. I really was treated differently. Raises and promotions seem to come easier. My ideas seem to be treated more seriously. However, the most dramatic difference was the way women reacted to me.

This did cause problems when I met my future wife. It was bound to happen that she would stand next to me without clothes on. It appeared to really bother her and so I challenged her on it. I dumped her. We got back together but if I had detected even a whiff of her being bothered by it, I would have dumped her permanently.

This has a hi giggle factor to it, but if you are a short guy, it is not funny at all.

The youth pastor at my church is shorter than his wife by a good two or three inches… obviously, height isn’t / wasn’t the determining factor in their relationship. :slight_smile:

And as for me, I’d have trouble finding a man that’s shorter than me… really. I’m only 5 feet tall (on a good day), so you can imagine.

That said, you should really think about what happened with you and Joanna and Sue.

F_X

I prefer shorter guys. The hottest guy I ever met was about 5’5". I’m only 5’3", so he wasn’t taller than me, but I just wanted to let all you short guys out there know that there are some of us who like little guys.

Wonder why poor old Sue is so lonely?!?

You have all my sympathy, Diff T. It’s hard enough to go on a blind date without your friends setting you up with jerks.

And I would take a short guy with brains and an engaging personality over a tall guy any day.

Raises hand

I think guys my height or shorter are hot.

I’m 5’3"

Sorry, already taken.