Haha, sorry about that!!!
Oh gosh!
No, no, no, it happened to me before on another board.
Until the moderators proved I wasn’t. But be my guest in asking the board mods if you want to waist your and their time. Jeez-Moneezious!
Redboss,
I know you anticipated me to say no thank you BUT…
No thanks.
I HIGHLY appreciate your post though… Man or not, it’s still flattering!
tmwster said:
"And I would take a short guy with brains and an engaging personality over a tall guy any day."
Well, that counts me out… :smack:
But Thanks!
Damn, there are so many of you that like shorter men, do you have any idea how ‘kickass’ that is for me?
Broomstick, Broomstick, and everyone else… I’m so glad I wrote this!
andymurph64,
Wow. I feel the same way. I know this sounds silly, but one thing I do notice is when I’m walking with a group of friends, I’m always end up in back. When I make a conscious effort to lead, they seem to pick up pace. Maybe it’s that my legs are shorter ;), but I think it’s that my friends (deep in the back of their minds) see me as a kid of sorts, just trailing behind.
Although I would never wear elevated shoes, unless maybe it was more for experimental purposes, I think I would notice a huge difference if I did. In a way I would feel like it would be deceiving to a potential mate; but then again so would heels, push-up bras and maybe even makeup. Although I find most women a lot more attractive without all of that, many men are into it, and it’s common.
I think it’s pretty cool that you stood up for yourself like that. I think I should be more like you, in expressing the: “If you don’t like me for what I am, then fine” attitude. Did you get upset with her, or did you just say: “Ok… see ya”? I would think a person would be more likely to reconsider their attitude if you acted like you didn’t give a shit, and that you didn’t want to be with anyone like them. You are right, it’s very serious, it greatly effects lives. I’m lucky because it just doesn’t seem THAT bad for me.
Just another note, It’s not as if it’s a bad thing for people to have standards. I just hope peoples standards are their own and not conditioned by our society. Where my friends think Heidi Klume Is one of the best looking gals in the world, I think Emily Watson is (you can see her here http://us.imdb.com/Name?Watson,%20Emily). They think I’m crazy, not so much for thinking she’s cute, but one of the best looking in the world!? Haven’t/isn’t there times and places where women on the ‘thick’ side were considered beautiful because it showed that they had the wealth to be well-fed? I mean, there’s no set standard for beauty, is there? Can anyone think of anything else that other cultures, maybe in other times, find sexy that we don’t?
One last thing, I’m sorry for all the writing mistakes I’ve made in these posts. I read the last 2 over like 5 times, (you should have seen the first draft). I have a difficult time writing, but I hope you gather enough of what I say to understand it’s not my thought process that’s flawed, (not really) just my writing.
Short and Dyslexic make a dangerous combo!!
What the flyin’ fuck are you wasting your feeble brain cells on? You’ve provided additional evidence that you are, indeed, rather quick react defensively. Get the damned chip off your shoulder and maybe someone would like you regardless of your stature. It’s ain’t your height that makes you a little man.
Um, wasn’t being defensless.
I may have the first time in a way, but it was hardly a big deal. If you read my last post that way, I’m sorry… but no one who says “jeez-moneezious” should be taken seriously. :rolleyes:
And why the fuck are you acting so defensively!? If I suck so much, why are you even waisting your ‘feeble brain cells’ on me??? Ignore me.
Ok, wait… I read your first post wrong.
You are right in the context to you post, it may come across that way. Maybe.
I’ve a hard time with my attention lately. I thought your first post was implying that I was blowero. The fact is, no one was. It’s my bad. I didn’t to come across that way… but I did read you post wrong. That being said, I didn’t think I handled the situation offensively if you were, in fact, claiming that I was blowero. But you weren’t.
I need to get more sleep.
But I do apologize!!!
Man, stop being so nice. If a woman would not chose you soley based on height, who cares if she’s ‘deceived’? Just make sure you have sex before she finds out. 
Get off this ‘nice’ kick. One of my first posts here was about this. I’ll try to find it.
It’s really nice that you are so nice, but it really, really is not what women respond to and so you need to stop and start being concerned about your own needs. Women don’t care about your needs so you need to.
You need to stop taking shit. Women are people and you don’t need to take shit from people.
She commented about why I was much shorter than before and I told her why. She seemed annoyed that I deceived her this way, which is understandable but I told her that, in my experience, women seemed to find me more attractive taller and so that is why I did that.
She made another comment and I told her that if it bothered her so much, then she should find someone else to be with and if she commented again, I would have nothing to do with her. A week later she dropped a comment again and I dumped her on the spot.
About 2 weeks later she called me up and apologized. She has never brought it up again. If it had been a ‘normal’ woman, I wouldn’t have taken her back but she had/has many very good qualities about her.
Don’t know if I agree with this first part, but the rest…
You go, boy! At first when I read your post, I was kind of thinking “Well, he did deceive her after all”. But then I thought about it, and I concluded that deceiving a woman about your height isn’t really any different than a woman making her breasts look bigger or wearing makeup. LOTS of women do that stuff, but if a guy got pissed because he found out his girlfriend was wearing pads or a Wonderbra, he would be thought quite shallow, I imagine.* So I think the way you handled things with your girlfriend was just fine.
*[Just for the record, if anyone cares, I personally like any size of breast; I just used that for an example]
Diff T, the rest of the SD community would like to apologise about Homebrew - there’s always one, y’know.
cheers,
Redboss
Actually, I did read his post wrong. My attention span almost completely abandons me at times.
So… shrugs, oh well.
I’m a five ten chick dating a five eight guy. Funnily enough, my real name is Sue:) No kidding. Anyway, he’s so clever and funny and he has the best body I’ve ever seen – Redboss would love his rear – and I’m in luuurve with him.
Occasionally, less sophisticated people will make a crack about how we have sex or how we dance. Fuck them, lonely bastards.
I feel that I can sympathize with shorter men, in the fact that there’s a lot of men who have no interest in dating me…I’m too tall. I remember one of the first things I thought when my five eight guy asked me out was “My God, this man has balls the size of grapefruits”. It was a turn-on. It still is.
So to the bitch who dumped you (she who brings shame to the name of “Sue”), you rude pathetic cow. How sad are you that you cannot take a few hours out of your day to get to know someone shorter than you.
I’m 5’8", and I’ve only had two girlfriends my whole life: one 5’10" and the other 5’11". One I met in an art class, and the other I met in a math class where she stole my textbook and I chased her until we eventually fought for it on the floor. Later I found out both of them were taller than their dads. Does anyone else think that only tall girls who are taller than their dads tend to like shorter males?
Recently I had girls pat me on the head and mess up my hair like I was a little kid and say “awwww, you’re cute.” Gah! I’m 21! That’s one of the main things I don’t like about being short. Almost everyone treats you like a little kid. Nobody takes you seriously, except maybe in math class when you demonstrate that you are a smart short kid and thus fulfill a stereotype. Diff T, I do think you should go easy on your friend. They couldn’t have known their friend hated short guys so much. My only advice to you is to find somewhere where you can interact with girls in a way completely unrelated to dating. If they get to know you as a friend they will be more likely to be attracted to you despite your height.
Is 5’8" considered short?
I thought it was about average.
5’8" is short blowero.
Believe me.
Speaking as one of the 5’8"ers, let me just say, yep. It’s particularly galling when someone shorter than you rejects you because you’re not “tall enough.” And it does happen.
Oh yes, you’re all doing him a favor by coddling his ego instead of pointing out where he could use improvement. I’ll agree that the girl who wouldn’t even sit through a movie with him because he is short is stupid. However, the fact that he reacted so poorly to a slight criticism by his best friend, who obviously knows him better than we do, and then responded so negatively to comments in this thread - first to TheWatcherInTheWater then to me - shows that he tends to act a little reflexively defensive.
I was doing him a favor by pointing out how his reactions were perhaps at least partially responsible for the way people interact with him.
In fact, I’ll tip my hat to Diff T for acknowledging in his last post and a previous one that he understood my point.
I’ll thank you not to offer apologies for me. I am quite capable of apologizing when it is necessary.
I’ve always given a second look to shorter men (there’s rarely someone shorter than me, though). I find it attractive. My husband is 5’10" though, which makes sense when you consider that I always considered shorter, slimmer, dark-haired men the most attractive, and I married a man on the tall end of average, with light-brown hair and the shoulders and chest of a pro football player.
Homebrew was not out of line. In his haste, Diff took on a rather emphatic “how dare you accuse me of…” posture in response to what was in fact a compliment. It was a display of defensiveness that disproportionate to the circumstances. Brew was simply stating that Diff may wish to re-examine his best friend, Joanna’s observation that he may have been over-reacting. (Sue was a total bitch, by the way.)
Again, in his haste to read the post, he became overly defensive to Brew’s message and responded with a “well, if you don’t believe me ask a Mod!” He believed that Brew was also accusing him of misrepresenting himself. Again, this was not the case. If he’d taken time to consider what Brew was saying rather than jumping the gun and getting upset, he may have understood.
Homebrew may have become impatient (and a touch snarky), but he wasn’t off target. Diff’s series of posts do clearly show that in his haste he was misunderstanding what other people were saying and he was displaying some hyper-sensitivity. To an extent, I agree, Diff seems a little quick to draw negative inferences when the intnetions were quite the opposite.
Homebrew was tying to point out that Joanna may have been trying to communicate: “hey, dude, calm down a little Sue’s clearly out of line, but it’s not malicious persecution against you!” However, her comments weren’t nearly so diplomatic.
FWIW, I tend to prefer shorter guys. I’m only somewhere between 5’2" and 5’4" and I feel awkward when I have to stretch my neck like E.T. to kiss a guy on the cheek.
The fact taht Sue didn’t even want to be seen in public with a shorter man indicates that she is Grade A Pure Fuckface!
Add me to the list of women who are particularly attracted men shorter than average. I’m about 5’4", my first love was 4’6", and I still associate shorter men with him. He had it really rough at that hight, thank god he had a good sense of humour (being mistaken for a primary school kid when you’re a university student can be a humbling experience or a lot of fun, depending on how you work it)
We’re a rare breed, us women who prefer our men small, but we’re out there. I also like slimmer, less built men.
The whole standardized appearance expectations really suck. Men have to be tall and buff, women aren’t supposed to be either of those things. Mention it, and you’re being too sensitive, but most tall women avoid high heels and sit or slouch, and most short men know full well they’re expected to not approach any woman taller than they are, lest they violate the proper order of things. It’s so ridiculous.
It’s a real jerk who rejects even finishing a blind date based on any appearance factors, though. You’re better off knowing this up front. I’d be easy on Joann unless she sets you up with another short-fearing woman.
I just looked it up. You’re actually only an inch and a half off the average. The fact that that is considered “short” kind of shows the real extent of the bias.
http://www.geocities.com/deardocgreen/stat_hei.htm
“The average male is 177 cm (5 foot 9.5 inches), and 90% of males are between 167cm (5 foot 6 inches) and 185 cm (6 foot3 inches)”