No sympathy for you, people who keep getting suckered by internet schlock

Well, If in fact at no point did she solicit donations, I’ll go along with **monstro **on this one.

OK, my hypothesis is that here **curlcoat **is being so ironic there’s a potential for multiple whoosh injuries…

Maybe she’s on a free wifi network somewhere. Everyone has some amount of time for relaxation or creative expression. That doesn’t mean that their complaints of not having enough time or money aren’t valid.

Or maybe she’s lying. But it’s frustrating when someone complains of hardships to see responses of “Oh yeah, well why are you spending [meager amount of time and money] in a way that’s not absolutely required for survival!?”

Which I didn’t say. What I did say was one of the first things that would tip me off that she isn’t as poor and/or time strapped as she says would be the fact she can maintain a blog. As in, I would wonder about it.

I skimmed the article and didn’t think the woman was claiming to be particularly poor. Very poor people don’t own cars. (She used past tense for many of the poorer claims. Admittedly she called herself “poor” in present tense, but it is true that middle-income Americans no longer enjoy a “middle-class” lifestyle.) Nor did she seem to solicit donations until after “going viral.”

Put me down as Pitting the morons that sent her money. In many cases, I’ll bet, they’re the same morons that want to cut food stamps to defend the taxpayer from Welfare Mama.

I have been single male poor which is not bad. i live with my sis and her husband and 3 to 4 kids now. They were and are poor and still are. I helped a lot for the first year and a half but am unemployed now so now we are all poor.

It is easy actually. With as she said WIC or EBT as most call it now food is not a problem. Frozen burritos or Totinos pizza’s do not make a healthy diet but you can throw them in a few times a week with a salad and veggies (radishes are cheap as hell) for the totinos or a salsa with the burritos (onions cheap, jalapeno cheap, tomatoes in summer or canned in winter with an orange) and there you go, a cheap meal that may be salty and fatty but has all the groups you need. Milk is till cheap, and actually is even cheaper at 7-11 than grocery stores for a gallon.

I live in Portland…supposedly a model in America for public transportation. If you have a car with legal tags though and don’t bother with insurance then that is way cheaper than a day pass. 5 dollars for a day pass with only a few bucks break for a monthly. Get a wreck that has all the lights and tags for a couple or few hundred buck and pray you don’t get in a wreck and as long as you follow the laws while driving you will be fine.

Weekly motels are fucking expensive. It would be hard to impossible to rent with no permanent address and even if you had that you still need first and last months rent after you pay the 40-75 non refundable background fee to even apply for an apt. The same with a bank account. When I was 22 or so and got my first real job, after my fast food, gas station, 7-11 days I found out I had messed up and was blacklisted. I was unable to get an account at any back until I paid Washington Mutual the $221 I was overdrew an account when I was in high school. I went to US Bank, Key Bank, And there was one other, Wells Fargo took it over eventually but can’t remember what it was.

Two jobs though…two minimum wage jobs even in a state with a low minimum is about where a living wage is. Sure no time, no entertainment, no free money and poor but poor is not really bad.

Isn’t driving a car without insurance illegal?

And she addressed that point specifically in her post. Namely, that the idea of spending long amounts of time not enjoying even the smallest of pleasures just to be able to make one Big Purchase somewhere down the line (which in the grand scheme of things won’t even mean shit anyway) is utterly devoid of meaning. To her, it’s an existence not worth living.

She may have been bullshitting all along, but the sentiment is rather easy to relate to. Sacrifice is well and good, but if all your life is Sacrifice, might as well cut it short and save yourself the trouble. Not everyone gets to marry into money then secure a financially secure existence with such a productive and important job as breeding lapdogs, you know ?

It’s only illegal if you get caught. :slight_smile: When you are poor, you sometimes have to take some stupid and illegal chances to be able to get things done. As he said, if you obey all the traffic laws and hopefully don’t get in an accident, you’re golden.

You’ve made my brain bleed because … well, given the general R activity with regard to welfare, Planned Parenthood, and abortion this is a great big rhetorical question that begs for “YES!”

But I am a high-ranking moron and know nothing of such things. As for the spirit of the OP, I’m totally behind it. Getting taken in when the e-scams were new, like over a quarter century ago, is almost forgivable. But not anymore.

That’s a **curlcoat **vintage. He/she is of the opinion that the poor should not reproduce, period, and as such should rush to abort any wayward sperm they don’t have a sound financial plan set up for well in advance.

I blame childhood trauma, and possibly Dick Cheney because why the hell not.

Of all the illegal (and, in my opinion, immoral) gambles that poor people take, I think driving without insurance is one of the stupidest ones.

I agree that it’s stupid, but think about it from the poor person’s perspective. It’s something that you don’t use everyday and therefore is an unnecessary expense. If you hit someone and get sued, what are they going to do send you to debtor’s prison? No, they just rack up another judgement on you to add to the pile you probably already have.

And the person you hit is fucked, but so what?

The problem with the person who wrote the article mentioned in the OP is that it is too easy to assume that the next person who says she is poor is lying too.

Regards,
Shodan

That’s right - if you’re poor, you’re supposed to spread the bad around, I guess.

I wouldn’t know.

Nor would I know what it’s like to think I deserve to have luxuries when I was living hand to mouth. What I did know what it was like was to live within my means and work my way up to living middle class. You know, sacrifice some now to have a better life later? Or is that passe now?

Republicans don’t force anyone to get pregnant nor keep babies when they don’t have the money to support them.

Of course, I haven’t said that but hey, whatever floats your boat.

I really don’t get folks like you tho. Supposedly, you care about poor people and you care about children, but you don’t see anything wrong with people who are already poor making sure they’ll never get ahead by having too many children, too soon. And you don’t see anything wrong with those children being raised poor. And you don’t see anything wrong with people acting like irresponsible idiots and screwing up the lives of those around them. How does that work?

I have a problem with it. When I hear stories like Tirado (fictionalized or real), I roll my eyes because I really have a hard time sympathizing with people who are mired in poverty, complain about how much it sucks, but then have not one, but multiple kids so that they can have company in their misery.

But I also recognize that we can’t do anything about it unless we’re all willing to give up our reproductive freedoms. I don’t want the state, in its current form, to decide who and who can’t have kids. Not unless we developed fool-proof contraception that has no side effects and can be effectively turned off the moment you get a good-paying job.

Until we get to that point, we just need to recognize that people will have babies under a variety of non-ideal circumstances and try to mitigate as best we can.

Knowing that not spending $20 now is going to cost you $2000 down the road doesn’t do you much good if you don’t have $20 in the first place.

Every policy I’ve had for the last–oh, fifteen years or so–has included a uninsured/underinsured motorist rider.

This argument has good flavor, but works the same for poor folks in America and about 80% of the world’s population in general. I think it’s missing a few elements of reality like, “children bring with them a visceral sense of hope of better days, and the drive to make them is instinctive and strong.” I could spend all day pounding away at it to make the point, but “Don’t make babby until you can afford it” is a naive and privileged opinion.

Don’t get me wrong, I do actually think the world would be a better place if we knocked the population down to 20% of where it is. But misanthropic as I am, I’m not willing to say who should breathe and who should become fertilizer.

As a claims guy I just can’t oversell my UIM rider on my umbrella policy. Sure, costs me a coupla hundred a year (Like, less than $20/month), but I simply do not worry about the 20-40% of drivers around me who can only shrug at my mangled body and walk away. Folks gotta realize the world don’t owe you anything you’re not prepared to provide yourself.