That’s a good point. OTOH, it does not excuse the kind of thinking behind “what do I care - the other guy is paying extra for irresponsible fuck-ups like me”.
So what if I steal your credit card - you are only responsible for the first $50 or so. So what if I break into your garage and steal your stuff - your homeowner’s insurance will cover most of it. And so on.
IYSWIM.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s a good point, too. The problem is that the world is full of irresponsible fuck-ups, and we have to protect ourselves from them somehow.
I like how you deny holding a view in the same breath as you reassert it (for the millionth time). It’s so very special. And that’s why we love you, curlcoat: your complete and utter lack of self-awareness.
Well, maybe love is not the right word. How about “violently dislike” ?
Um, you quoted curlcoat not Clothahump, could it be that you are confusing two different posters?
No, I just used the wrong name :smack:. Reported for mod edit.
So, which Republican Congressclown fucked her? Because that’s the only way you can get a rationally supportable ‘yes’ to this question:
I’ll do it! 
That’s the kind of attitude I’m talking about; “I’m poor, so the world owes me, and I’ll just do as I please regardless of how it affects other people.”
Yup. I will also take every chance I get to argue with someone espousing an attitude that you should try to get away with things that victimize other people if you can just because you’re poor.
Don’t skimp on insurance if you live in a no-pay-no-play state. If you get hit and it’s someone else’s fault, you are legally barred from recovering if you’re uninsured. Louisiana is the only one I know of, but Sun Jester could opine more knowledgeably than I on that topic.
It was early. I hadn’t had my coffee yet or talked to a dozen uninsured vicitms who think they need $100,000 for a whiplash claim. I am ready to start playing God now.
California as well I think, but as always, it depends on the state you’re living in. About all I’m willing to say I know these days is, I like chili and…no that’s it. I like chili. And nachos.
Or, we can quit paying them to have kids. I know a lot of folks don’t look at it that way, but the reality is we send poor people all kinds of things simply because they reproduced. Sometimes they use it wisely, most of the time they don’t so the kids don’t end up getting raised very well. I really do think we are at the point that kids who are born to people already on welfare would be better off raised in an orphanage. They’d live someplace with heat/AC, get three good meals a day, good clothes, get as good an education as the local public schools can offer and not grow up with the poor example of their parents. And their parents wouldn’t have an incentive to have a bunch of kids, so if they really did want to move up the economic ladder they’d have a far better chance.
And even if we did get that perfect birth control, some wouldn’t use it for religious reasons and other wouldn’t use it because they’d want to create babies in poverty anyway! :smack:
Well, condoms and the Pill can be purchased at any drug store.
How about, “don’t make babby if you can’t afford it, if you want to keep it?” as above? The drive to make them may be instinctive and strong, but people manage to control all their other drives until appropriate.
This made more sense when it had the wrong poster name in it. But again, if you want to make incoherent shit up, fine by me!
Ever used a rubber? I’ll let wimmins with more experience expound on the result of how things run when they insist on their use–all my information is second-hand and limited in scope, probably slanted a bit too much toward “extraordinarily negative”. As for the pill, sure, it’s at any drug store just like ritalin, oxycodone and morphine suckers so anyone can just … oh wait, you need a doctor’s note. Well no problem healthcare is free foor poor people…oh, it’s not? Well there’s always Planned Paren…oh, wait. Dipshit. There is a HUGE movement in this country to do stuff that removes the ability of the poor to get themselves access to all those mounds of birth control devices in any drugstore. If I were to put on my ultraconservative, “I got mine, you get yours” hat I would be doing everything I could to stop the poor from spawning like mice so they would be unecumbered from doing stuff like getting educated, staying healthy, and becoming a cog in the capitalist machine.
Don’t make babby if you can’t afford it? Again, naive and privileged. Of the lower income families I’ve known, (close family and friends) the cycle runs like:
Admittedly my sample size is pretty small (Arkansas & Mississippi white trash & Seattle welfare class) and I’ll gladly take corrections, but what I’ve seen is women who effectively lose control of their lives at a very early age, and men who willingly exploit their desperation. And these people become the role models, and danged if their kids don’t act just like them.
(Jeez…thread drift much?)
Yes, I’ve used a “rubber”, and yes the Pill requires an RX but after that one can go to the corner drug store for a whole year. Healthcare is damn near free for poor people.
No, just because one is “knocked up” at 16 doesn’t mean one has to end up with “babby”.
Yes, women give up control of their lives at an early age, most because we let them. All of this crap are excuses to do what they want - have kids and get someone else to support them. I lived with that Seattle (area) welfare class for years, so it isn’t like I haven’t seen them make these same decisions over and over, until I got out.
Yup, thread drift. I’m not allowed to have an opinion on “babbys” here. I make a comment and people jump on it.
Well, it was a tasty comment…