Not that we need any more examples of people being assholes...

Regarding this incident here in Seattle on Tuesday. (Short version for those who don’t want to click the link: A woman sat on the rail of a major interstate-freeway bridge for over three hours, snarling traffic. She eventually jumped, but lived.)

It’s one thing to sit in traffic, get frustrated, and yell something mean because your fuse is short. We all have human failings, and some people don’t deal with anger very well. However, the overwhelming majority of those people, after calming down and reflecting on the situation, no doubt regret their boorish behavior.

But it’s something else entirely to think back over the incident and insist that being selfish and judgemental is the correct choice. In particular, I can’t believe that the writer second from the bottom is actually willing to have his name publicly associated with his incredibly cruel worldview. Clearly, he believes himself to be speaking from a position of elevated wisdom, and chides those who feel empathy with the distraught woman – and further, he believes so firmly in his wit and perspicacity that when the newspaper asked if they could run his comments, he said, “Sure, go ahead.”

Yes, his name’s in the article. I used an online directory and found his home address, and I wrote a letter expressing my disgust with what he clearly considers a more-enlightened position. I have no intention, however, of sending it to him, because I was merely venting spleen. Under no circumstances do I want to engage this bruised sphincter of a subhuman in any sort of dialogue.

Instead, I reproduce parts of it here for your reading pleasure.

From the link above, the last two sentences of his quoted comments are as follows:

Ahem. You, sir, are the epitome of the modern urban asshole.

Road rage is not on the rise because several thousand people were inconvenienced, some significantly, while someone’s life hung in the balance. No, road rage is on the rise because you and similarly selfish morons place your fleeting needs over legitimate life-and-death emergencies. Road rage is on the rise because the blinders of egotism and personal greed have caused you and people like you to lose all perspective and adopt personal priorities that would be deemed unconscionable in a more civilized society. Road rage is on the rise because you and your fellow megalomaniacs cannot understand that sometimes one doesn’t get what one wants, and that other people’s tragedies sometimes outweigh one’s own. Unfortunately, this requires you to consider the emotions of someone other than yourself – indeed, to concede their existence: in all likelihood an alien concept.

And thus the saddest part, no matter how many people take my course of looking up your name and berating you for your shameless self-absorption, is that you no doubt still think you’re right.

I have no doubt that if I had found myself entangled in that traffic imbroglio, I would have been similarly frustrated and angry at the delay. But the difference between you and me, you sniveling guttersouled cretin, is that once I learn the nature of the problem, I am able to realize that some people’s tragedies are larger than mine. Unlike you, I understand that I don’t sit at the apex of the Entitlement Totem, and I recognize when somebody else’s crisis takes priority over my own.

Maybe some day in the future some complex heartbreak will touch you personally, and you’ll have need to allow somebody else’s feelings to brush against your imprisoned soul. Perhaps then, against all odds, empathy will take root in the sterile soil of your cold, dead heart.

But until that day comes, please do keep spouting your callous diatribes, so we can all recognize what kind of person you are, and shun you accordingly.

Hell, send the letter. People like that twit are just asking to be fucked with.

Slash his tires while you’re at it.

Fucker.

He has made a public comment. I’d reply in public, perhaps you could consider a letter to the editor. You could send a letter to his address but pointing his shortcomings out in public. Who knows, maybe his S.O. reads the paper.

This is why I read this forum. Bravo, Cervaise, great job. I think you should mail the letter, both to him and to the newspaper. Personally, I couldn’t believe it when I heard that people were yelling at her to jump. Heartless fuckers.

:eek:

I read that letter and wanted to CRY.
What a coldhearted inhuman thing to say.

I am fuming.

There are assholes, and there are assholes. This guy is both.

You did right by not sending him your letter, Cervaise.

The worst thing you can do to an asshole is ignore him.

I agree with you, Cervaise. I also think you should send your thoughts to the newspaper.

What that vile mass of people did needs to be decried. It was callous and inhumane. They need to be censured.

Actually, I’ve been quite interested by the positive backlash in this case. (And how often do you get to cite a “positive” backlash?) The vast majority of people I’ve talked to are appalled that their fellow-citizens would behave so badly. The local press coverage seems to reflect the same. Apparently, the lady is being inundated with cards, flowers, and well-wishes at the hospital.

But so far as the writer in question is concerned, I agree. Everyone acts like an asshole on occasion, especially when frustrated, but it takes a true champion to cling to his status as an asshole after tempers have had a chance to cool.

Ummmm…did this guy miss the fact that, as The Seattle Times printed, there have been 10 suicide attempts on that bridge, and that only 3 (including this woman) have lived? Not very good odds. To sit smugly back and declare that there were only two outcomes regardless of how long traffic was tied up is morally reprehensible. I guess that if it were his sister or his girlfriend up there, the police should have just told her to jump and let her take her chances that she’d survive the impact of a 160 foot fall and that the police divers could rescue. Forget having some compassionate professionals try to avert an event that had a 70% chance of turning out tragically just so people wouldn’t be inconvenienced.

Feh. And one wonders why I become a little bit more misanthropic every day.

sounds like almost everybody involved with this story are assholes. maybe its all that coffee and dreary weather up there that makes people so edgy and irritable. me, i never touch the stuff…(so whats my excuse?)

I wouldn’t have encouraged her to jump, but if she was going to do it anyway, she could have had the decency to do it quicker.

sigh I heard about this on NPR and just couldn’t believe it.

Yeah, getting wherever you’re going is more important than the life of a fellow human being–no, scratch that; by your barbaric insensitivity, you’ve shown that you do not deserve to share the same rung on the evolutionary ladder as that poor, distressed woman.

Go commiserate with your fellow pondscum about the unbearable inconvenience imposed upon you by a person in crisis. May none of you ever know the pain of losing someone close to you by suicide, and may none of you ever know the soul-rending dispair that drives one to consider taking one’s own life. If such a thing should happen to you, no doubt your mind will drift back to the day when your impatience supplanted your humanity, and I would hate for you to be subjected to so inconvenient an emotion as remorse.

You know, I can understand that email.

I’m the kind of guy, where if I decided to kill myself, I’d have thought it through.

If I climbed up onto a bridge pre-rush hour, and waited 3 1/2 hours before jumping, it would have probably have been with the intent in mind of screwing up everybody’s day. You know, kind of like a last “Screw you, not only am I going to kill myself I’m going to ruin your day as well.”

So, if It’d been me, I would have deserved all those comments.

And there is something attractive and selfish about killing yourself in such a spectacular way, creating all kinds of consequences.

I’m not above understanding why people may have considered that this was a deliberate effect of hers. And, I don’t know the lady, maybe it was.

Nice response. Are you actually that much of a cold-hearted son of a bitch or is that your on board persona? If it’s the former, I really feel for your family and friends. Do you post things like that just to get angry responses?

Way to Monday morning quarterback an attempted suicide. I’m sure this obviously distraught woman intended to fuck up everyones day. Maybe if it was your sister you would feel differently. Or maybe not.

Zette

A third possibility: maybe it was sarcasm??? That’s the way I read it and it’s pretty funny if you read it that way.

I’m not condoning the shouting of obscenities at the woman, but her act was one of extreme selfishness, not just depression. Forget about mere inconvenience, that roadway would also have been blocked for emergency traffic, putting lives in danger. The crew sent to rescue her could have been needed elsewhere, or could have been injured while attempting to help her. And of course we have the pain the friends and family must go through after any suicide attempt.

No, it’s really me. And I really did feel the same way when it was my sister. If you are going to do it, just do it. It doesn’t need to be melodrama.

I have no problem with the police spending three hours trying to talk her down. I have no sympathy for the people that shouted out for her to jump (which by the way had nothing to do with her actual jump, the police had stopped that behavior more than an hour before she finally did it). But if she was going to jump anyway, why the fuck did she spend three hours listening to police give her reasons not to?

I believe that people over the age of 18 have the right to end their own lives with no questions asked. I just wish people would do it in a more considerate fashion. I watched a guy take a header off of one of the building in downtown Minneapolis. I honestly don’t care that the guy killed himself, but do so disrepectfully risk other lives in the process is stupid; he should have just hanged himself in his own living room.

What I find sad are all the strangers now sending her cards and phone messages with expressions of love and compassion. That’s just bullshit, not one of those people has an honest feeling for her. They are just trying to make themselves feel better.

Oh yeah, that’s right, by being publicly distraught and screwing with traffic, and tying up an emergency crew that could have been doing something else, she was being simply selfish. So the cops should have showed up, realized this was going to take a while, and just shoved her off to put an end to the spectacle.

I can’t believe you people.

take this for what you will…

a coworker of my wife was fired from her job (3 days prior to being vested in the co. 401k!) for being late from lunch! the reason she was late? don’t know, the company didn’t ask because they didn’t care.

Just in case it wasn’t clear:

She wasn’t being selfish. She was being melodramatic. If she really wants to die and won’t allow herself to be talked out of it, there really are better ways to go about it and I encourage such people to give them a try.

I don’t want you to commit suicide, but I don’t particularly care if you do. If you are just hoping that someone will talk you out of it then by all means make a scene on I-5 for three hours, I can cope. But if you are going to do it regardless, then an attempt at consideration would be appreciated.