Now you're making stuff up. [Obama's citizenship]

Dogs and cats living together, a non-artsy movie sweeping the Oscars, Columbus winning the Stanley Cup…

Tragically, kanicbird isn’t even the nuttiest thing going this week. That prize goes to the claim that the Vatican is covering up knowledge of intelligent extraterrestrials.

A poster here is floating that one?

Link? Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top?

I’m fairly certain that in Christian terms, it is heresy even to suggest there are any “heavenly rulers” other than God. And why would God need to “negotiate” anything?

He’s saying God’s a barrister.

This isn’t a fair criticism of Justice Thomas.

Back when he referred the petition to the full Court, some (like the commentator in the link, and some posters in this thread) were criticising Thomas, interpreting his action as giving credence to the claim.

Actually, it looks like he was trying to kill the silly thing dead, to prevent further judge-shopping, as Polycarp mentioned in this thread: Alan Keyes is Suing Obama:

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There’s one more fact worth noting, which I and others dealt with over in the GQ thread on this.

The SCOTUS conference is not deciding whether to hear the Donofrio suit tomorrow (i.e., evaluating a petition to grant certiorari); they’re voting on whether to grant a stay. I.e., the Donofrio lawyers are petitioning them to stay something related to Obama’s election until they decide wiether to grant cert. (I supposed it to be the inauguration; others have suggested they enjoin his Electors from voting for him.) And the reason this is going to conference is that one Justice already refused to grant a stay (individual justices can grant stays), and Justice Thomas was the second justice they requested it from. Something I hadn’t known until that suit is that when someone asking for a stay “goes Justice shopping”, the custom is for the second justice to get the request to circulate it for conference – if rejected in conference, it’s permanently rejected, and no more justices get bugged with stay requests.

So in short, Justice Thomas is not necessarily giving this any credence; he’s probably using a bit of little-known Court rules to put an end to a nuisance suit
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(My underlining.)

Here you go though that’s to my smart-ass comment. You can backtrack to get the whole nutty thing.

A little digging around in Great Debates and I found it. It’s in the middle of a much longer thread, but here’s the post in which that claim is made.

I’m sorry, I can’t understand you. Words don’t mean anything. God told me personally. Without using words.

I’m sorry, but everyone knows that God is American. Don’t go tossing around them foreigner fancy words when referring to God.

-Joe

The sudden, and unprecedented, use of TeLePrOmPtErS by the President, in any situation. No President, not even the hated Clinton, and surely not the saintly Reagan, had ever used a tElEpRoMpTeR ever before, nor even used notes, to give a speech. Obama’s use of the dread TELEpromtER is certainly sign that he is getting led around by the nose, the only question up to now was who was doing it? Thanks to Kanicbird, we now know.

Tragically you are probably correct in that it would be considered by many people who claim to be Christians to be heresy, but the Word of God states otherwise:

My take is that God knows we are at a disadvantage when dealing with demons so He states the terms of the agreements, though He allows the deals because we make them. Much like a child negotiating a deal with a adult, our Father oversees it and mediates the deal.

They need them to beam the script into his brain. You and I would see words, Obama sees directives from The Powers That Is.

And when I read “tElEpRoMpTeR” I totally hear it in Torgo’s voice.

-Joe

Oh, I don’t know. I mean, that’s at least somewhat plausible. I’m not saying I believe it, but at least it makes sense. The Vatican library is huge, so if there were historical evidence of space aliens, then that’s where you’d most likely find it. And it’s not hard to invent a reason for the Vatican to sit on that sort of knowledge. kanicbird, on the other hand, thinks that God is a member of the Electoral College. That’s about five points higher on the crazy scale, and we all know that the crazy scale is like the Richter scale - it increases logarithmically.

Damn, you’re right! I forgot the PrOoF1!

So, are the Amish aliens, or are aliens Amish? And if so, how did they get here, feeding their horses massive quantities of warpspeed?

-Joe

Just for the record, while there’s quite a bit of Thomas’s jurisproduence I disagree with (not to mention the scurrilous rumors that came out at his confirmation hearings), I do have to rise to his defense here. It was leaked (purposefully, I’m sure) that the reason Thomas did that is that it was evident that the wingnut who had approached Souter and been rejected was going to try a seriatim approach to every justice. So what Thomas did was to have the petition heard and rejected in conference – which amounted to the court saying, “We listened. We’re not convinced. Now shut up and go away.” in more legal terms. IOW, if it’s rejected by the conference, it’s rejected by all the justices and none of them need be bothered by it again.

Mass histeria!

Ah. **Lacunas Quell. **

Why am I not surprised.

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This is a spiritual answer: If Obama is truly illegitimate because he was born outside the US, and he continues the illusion that he was born in the US, humanity has lost control of the presidency and power shifts to heavenly (demonic) rulers.
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At first I thought you were suggesting that demons would resort to blackmail.

Then you posted

So now I see that by claiming to be a U.S. citizen but by not being one, Obama would in fact be negating his independent human will and opening himself up to direct manipulation by demons.
Um, okay.

So I was going to try to defend you against certain remarks made in regards to claims that you are saying that if Obama were not born in Hawaii then the U.S. was not under human control. But now I see that I am the one who was mistaken.

I think I’ll go smoke some crack now. Maybe then I can follow what you’re saying.