Wait, come aga… No, no, not the right way to say this. Let’s try it again from the top.
Wait, seriously ? You collect your wife’s ejaculate FOR SCIENCE!, but you’ve never been curious about the taste of your own splooge ? As God is my witness, I believed all guys had tried theirs once on a bored Sunday afternoon.
Not debating, at all, IANAD, and far too young to know anything about popular porn in the 70’s. I’m just sharing my experience: I knew of two people in my peer group who supposedly did, and every video in my store with any variation of “squirt” or “Fallon” or “wet” in the title were by far the most popular videos in our store in the early and mid 80’s. It has also been the topic of any conversation of the sexual genre during my entire adult life, and considered curious and entertaining , but not controversial. In fact, this is the first place I’ve heard anyone express controversy over it at all. So, *anecdotally *it wasn’t unheard of by me, or my friends since the 80’s. (And to stick with the rules of the GQ forum, you asked for an example, and I gave you the name of a Very Popular and Well-known porn star from 25 years back, just like you asked)
Not really that difficult, as the article in question is itself 9 years old.
Here is a link to a paper written in 1978 which includes, in the abstract, the phrase:
You had four ounces, and you tasted it.
Mrs. pkbites wasn’t in the ***least bit ***curious about the taste? :dubious:
(bolding mine)
Exactly! Come on! (pardon the pun) You mean to tell me that you collected four ounces of the stuff, and she wasn’t curious?! :dubious:
And now that I think about it, why in the world were you ‘collecting’ it, and [del]how long[/del] many sessions did it take, to accumulate that much? 
Going by your account, she has tasted yours. You have tasted hers.
Ever heard the expression, “What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander.”? 
Human history has gone for large chunks of time without acknowledging the existence of the freaking clitoris. The female sexual response has been considered unknown and irrelevant territory for periods of history, including the period immediately leading up to our own. Have we even come to a consensus on the G-spot yet? If we can’t figure that out, what makes you think we would automatically have figured out a relatively rare phenomenon in a part of the body that isn’t usually being watched as it happens?
In previous generations, sex was a lot more likely to be happening in the dark, in positions that don’t allow for much observation, and without as much emphasis on the female orgasm. Furthermore, people were less likely to have multiple partners to compare to each other and venues for discussing the ins and outs of different partner’s anatomy.
In missionary, squirting isn’t obvious and the residue can look like ordinary leakage. I’m an occasional squirter, but most of my partners don’t pick up on that. You have to be watching pretty closely to observe it, and most guys just don’t put that much thought in to why the wet spot is so wet.
Well, I’ll leave you with my 200 pesos.
It seems to me that we live in an era with fewer and fewer restraints. Like a drug addict who first needs more and more to get off, and then needs to step up to more and more powerful drugs to get off, so it goes with sex.
The porn industry----the Madison Avenue of sex----is larger than the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB combined.
As a result, complete genres of porn have been developed* that require more and more depravity, violence, degradation (particularly to women) and over-the-top behavior for a customer base that simply isn’t happy any more to see garden variety sex in different positions.
You’d have me believe that the reason we haven’t noticed our wives/girlfriends literally gushing water is because the lights were out and we under the covers. (in a missionary position, no less) They were gushing all the time and we never noticed! Yea, thats the answer!
Citing 70’s era porn stars, 1978 articles (that don’t address squirting,) articles from 1879 (that don’t address squirting) and other obscure things ask us implicitly to suspend our disbelief and own experiences and ignore the fact that a few years ago the lights were on, and she wasn’t under the covers, and she wasn’t firing female ejaculate across the room.
I have no cite to link to, but I assure you my personal experience with such ladies – plural – goes back to more than 10 years ago. Much more.
raindog, the Internet has taken porn mainstream. The sexual revolution has freed people to talk about previously taboo subjects. I suspect that women are having more orgasms now than they did in the post-Victorian hangover of the early to mid-twentieth century, and there is definitely more discussion of the details of sex.
Have you seen those ads from the 50s advising women to douche with Lysol? That’s not a cultural atmosphere that welcomes discussion of women ejaculating.
But if you want older cites, why not start with Google? From the Wikipedia entry (which contains nearly 90 citations, many from the 70s and 80s):
Female ejaculation is not new. Discussing it is new.
Thanks for the input, but frankly I think you’re gullible to the point of absurdity.
Well, I’m the one that had his face gushed into on multiple occasions. Cynicism has its place, but this is one phenomenon I know to be true.
Yeah, are you saying I don’t know what comes out of my body?
Again, I’d say probably only 10% of my partners have noticed it. If it happens during PiV sex, you probably won’t know what’s going on.
I don’t doubt for a moment a woman pissed on you, and both of you thought it was something entirely different.
And I think jackelope is partly right; the internet has taken porn mainstream. Stuff we hadn’t seen before, stuff we hadn’t done before, stuff we hadn’t seen in movies before, stuff that wasn’t in medical journals, * stuff we hadn’t talked about among friends, joked about, bragged about, or was part of popular culture, * stuff that was almost 100% unheard of we’re now led to believe was happening all along----all along!----and we’re just now free to talk about it. :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious:
The porn industry is every bit as good at marketing than McDonald’s, Coke, or Macy’s. You’re being deluded.
So what do you want?
You wanted to know about it before the last 10 years and got plenty of citations and now those are no good because you want to move goal posts?
What exactly is your now supposed general, factual question?
Interesting. I learned about it when a boyfriend pointed out what I was doing and I looked it up to see what the hell was going on with my body.
The porn industry must be awfully subversive to be subliminally influencing actual bodily functions of non-porn viewing sexually inexperienced teenage girls before the internet became mainstream.
Plenty of citations?
You’re kidding right?
Listen, my interest in this is on the wane.
I might be wrong (which would put me in company with most medical doctors seeking to validate why/how women are now suddenly propelling a liquid across the room and who have concluded that it’s urine) and that’s all right.
Jenna Jameson can squirt all over the room, and I ain’t buying that:
It’s been a natural ubiquitous and common part of sexual activity for anything more than 3 years or so since its become fashionable;
That it is anything but urine.
Period.
Three years? Most of the references you’ll find to it on the Internet are older than that. As was already pointed out to you, the Straight Dope column on it is from nine years ago. If your claim is that strong, then the burden of proof is on you, not us.
Raindog whatever you saw on video may well have been either piss or water poured into the vagina then forced out through muscle contractions. No one is denying that porn does those things and claims them to be “squirting”.
But, actual female ejaculation is real. It DOES NOT come out like a stream of piss. In my direct experience, it just gets very very wet down there but there is no force behind it. It is not Urine. In my own case the partners who did this DID NOT achieve it through normal intercourse, it took extended sessions using “non traditional implements” lets say to get them to this state.
Much like other studies about the sexual habits of humans: observed data is as varied as the subjects, and data gathered from self-reporters is guaranteed to be subjective. However…even though you’ve been directed to reliable data (you can Google as well as anyone), video evidence, and anecdotes from women and partners who have had the experience, you still have the right to refrain from viewing pornography depicting female ejaculation, and the right to refute all of the above and remain an Asquirtist.
But just for fun, here is a chatty Scientific American articlewritten by a scientist who might have a point of view even less biased than your own*. Please note that he cites older references to female ejaculation as he ponders the topic, which is another direct answer to your demand for older references to female ejaculation.
*because he’s gay.
I don’t know how you could have read this thread and come to this conclusion at all.
I think the anecdotal evidence is that it is definitely NOT urine. Perhaps your significant other is indeed urinating on you, but that may be something she enjoys doing to you and doesn’t want you to think she’s peeing on you.
As for this from raindog:
I’m not sure about the across the room stuff. It wouldn’t surprise me, however, that if this phenomenon exist, that some women can control the ejaculation of their fluid.
If you don’t think this is possible, and you are a man, go to the porn store (or on the web, NSFW) and do a search on Peter North. The guy has the ability to shoot his ejaculate across the room, and I can’t. I can’t even come close.
The Wiki article is interesting in that it discusses the Skene’s Gland as if it’s quite possible that the gland is connected to the female G spot and ejaculate and yet may not exist in some women.
Question for women that can squirt. Can you feel the Skene Gland inside your body and/or feel a bump of fluid under your skin like a large pimple before squirting, or does it come from out of no where?