It’s probably pretty standard if he didn’t actually have a reason for arresting her. Like if she wouldn’t go on a date with him, or blow him, or whatever, thus proving that she’sl an uppity bitch and needed to be arrested.
No, the PD might want to keep that reason for arresting her confidential.
Also, there’s never going to be any paperwork on this arrest, obviously, so as far as the PD is concerned, it probably never happened.
That is exactly what I am saying. If it bleeds it leads has always been true no more so than now. 24 hour news cycles need video to feed the audience. The converse is also true, important stories that should have more coverage don’t because there is no video. I don’t think I’m saying anything outlandish.
All of the above would be my guess too. I don’t think I’ve seen a list of charges yet. I’m assuming he was going to charge her with disorderly conduct or something similar. I can’t answer for South Carolina specifically but usually if it is determined you are acting outside of your scope of employment you do get hung out to dry criminally and civilly.
I disagree. Local story getting play because there is a video.
To go back to more factual issues, you say you were a Class 3. Was that in South Carolina? Because many states have similar titles for special officers. But what it means in each state is different.
There was never any legal arrest on her. Once the local cops got there they immediately decided he was in the wrong and arrested him. She was freed on the spot and is only considered the victim. This is not something that was resolved after a lengthy investigation (although further investigation happened after I’m sure). It was resolved at the scene by the locals. They were the ones who would have had to process the arrest so it never happened.
So if an arrest never happened then by default a brutal assault happened.
He should be a hoot in prison.
I’m kind of surprised the bar patrons didn’t step in and restrain this guy. My gut reaction would be to give him fair warning and then grab the nearest beer bottle and have at it.
I haven’t seen a list of charges but I’m sure assault is one of them. I’m not sure if she suffered any injuries. If no serious injuries it will probably be simple assault. Again I’m assuming, but I think the most serious charges will probably be official misconduct and improper restraint.
Hey, at least he didn’t shoot her.
:mad: <- at out of control cops.
Thisblog says there is nothing in his record saying he was ever a Marine. Although this cite shows no proof yet it does have a very good record of exposing phony vets. It also states that his job is prisoner transport.
That’s probably the case, I think I inferred that from his comment. He said “This is how the Marines deals with soldiers”. I guess he wasn’t saying “I was a Marine and this is what they do” he was saying “You were a Marine, you should be able to handle getting roughed up because this is what I think they do to out of line soldiers”. Maybe he just watched to many movies.
Nah I think he was claiming to be a Marine. This is right outside of Fort Jackson a large Army base. I’m sure he knows the difference between Marines and soldiers. He’s a tool. This just shows it more.
The woman was Army. Everybody in Columbia is Army. I’m pretty sure I am accidentally in the Army and just don’t know it. One day I’m going to have a very bad time at a surprise inspection.
Or maybe grab two beer bottles…
I’ll see if Bear Nenno can get you on his inspection list.
So what would have happened had someone intervened successfully? Meaning nobody got killed/shot at and the woman wasn’t hurt further.
well in their defense they did send out police who were specially trained. They just didn’t specify what training. In this case, it was was mowing down the mentally challenged.
I use to buy into the idea that the police can’t shoot the legs of a suspect to drop them but the Brits showed that is easily done. And that was against a known killer. It can’t always be done in an emergency but that video showed they were not in harms way nor was anybody around them. This guy in question could have been pepper sprayed or tasered.
I think he would have been arrested for the same charges made against him only he might have had a bloody nose in the process.
I think you meant to put this over in that other thread?
I mean to the person “obstructing justice”. Loach?
No, it was in response to the post about the police shooting. Luckily it didn’t get that far in this incident.
Yeah, no. One of the problems with discussing these things with people is they just don’t have the same reference points. No it is not easily done. Far from it. I’m a decent shot. I occasionally miss a torso sized target on the range. Without adrenaline and someone trying to harm me. Give me a leg or armed sized target with lets say less than optimal conditions and its not going to happen. Add to that most of the time the officers do not go into a situation knowing there will be a need to shoot. They have to react, make a decision and shoot all in a second. Aiming to incapacitate is unrealistic. The fact that you think that it is a good idea to close within a foot or two of a guy with a knife proves you really have no understanding of what it takes to deal with these types of situations.
Ultimately? It wasn’t a legal arrest against her so anyone helping her would not be in trouble. Assuming they used the appropriate level of force for the situation.