I’ve seen lots of wishful thinking that this is the case, and I’m totally on board with it if it happens, but I’ve not seen anything that indicates it’s anything more than fanwank. Have you seen anything more official than message board and blog posts?
Yeah, everything I’ve heard on that front has been prefaced by “Wouldn’t it be cool if…”.
There was a very good reason against it: in Thor, Loki hated his Frost Giant heritage to the point of trying to genocide Jotunheim so that he could be a real Asgardian in his own eyes (after all, he can’t be a Frost Giant if there aren’t any, right?).
That makes it a little strange that Thanos had that cameo in the stinger. He’s really more associated with the Silver Surfer* than the Avengers, and Fox has the Surfer via FF2. Seems weird they could use him but had to nerf the Skrulls.
*yeah or Adam Warlock, but the chances of that guy ever being in a movie are about a billion to one.
Joss Whedon, God-emperor of the Nerdverse: http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/01/master-of-the-whedonverse/
Yeah, I didn’t mean he would involuntarily change. But the spell did partially lift when the frost giant touched him, and when he used the Casket of Ancient Winters. So if for some story reason he encountered similar magic, that would have been a nice touch.
Not really, seeing as you can link just about every Marvel character to every other. By that reckoning, Fox would own the rights to half the Marvel universe, just because they had the FF.
I do wish that Fox didn’t, though. The Fox movies so far have been unredeemably crap. Ian McKellen should have been in a Marvel produced movie, not whatever dreck Fox churned out.
:dubious: “X-Men” and “X2” were both great - the latter is generally considered one of the best comic book movies ever made. Of the Marvel Studios flicks, I’d really only put “Avengers” and “Iron Man” up there with them (and I enjoyed “Captain America” and “Thor”).
Saw it for a second time tonight, and it was just as much fun. I listened carefully, and Stark’s line to Hawkeye is definitely “Better clench up, Legolas.”
And I was finally able to spot myself in my scene as an extra!:
And to me that line makes the least amount of sense of all the other lines that we thought he said.
Is that an archery term that I’m not aware of?
I took it as a shorthand way of saying, “You’re about to experience a significant delta-vee, so you might want to make sure your sphincter is ready for it.”
I was watching the Incredible Hulk again last night, and was wondering about the Super Soldier serum that Ross used on Blonsky. Where did he get it from? If the army still had serum left over, why was Cap the only Super Soldier?
Why did it have side effects for Blonsky (his bones started to grow strangely before he was given Banner’s blood), when it worked perfectly on Cap?
Are they offering no-prizes for the movies?
There was no Super Soldier Serum left after what was used on Cap and the vial the spy stole being broken in the chase. What Blonsky took was an attempt to recreate the original formula; apparently there were some bugs that hadn’t been worked out.
That’s how I’d remembered it, but he goes and gets it from a storage room, where it has clearly been mothballed. Apparently, there you can also see a label marked “Dr. Reinstein”, which is apparently an alias of Dr Erskine…
It worked perfectly on Cap because Iron Man’s dad zapped him with vita-rays or something. Iron Man’s dad wasn’t shown zapping Blonsky with vita-rays or something. QED.
Yeah, that might be the case, although that just raises the question, why didn’t General Ross use vita rays? Howard Stark wasn’t killed by a hydra agent, and surely someone was taking notes
I haven’t seen the The Incredible Hulk since it was in theaters so take this with a grain or two of salt.
Given what you’ve said, the serum could have simply been a prototype that had unintended side effects, or Reinstein might have been a later scientist who tried to replicate the original serum (or part of the original team who tried to recreate the work later) with imperfect results (I don’t remember Erskine using that name or being mentioned by it. The cite says Reinstein created the serum, but doesn’t say he was the same person as Erskine.)
If it was the same serum, the difference could be the radiation they used on Cap. I don’t remember whether Blonsky used it or not but even if he did, he might have done it wrong or not enough.
EDIT: So yeah, what The Other Waldo Pepper said.
As for why they didn’t use the vita-rays, maybe they didn’t have access to the equipment and/or didn’t believe they had been an essential part of the process. (Just guesses, no real support for either of these, that I know of.)
Dr. Erksine also makes the statement that the PERSON you use also affects how the serum works. It achieved the results it did with Steve Rogers because he was an overall good person who hated bullies. Same reason it turned Johann Schmidt into Red Skull and not into “Captain Nazi”. If the subject was not the right person you would not get the same results even using the same techniques and formula.
IIRC, the Avengers movie has Cap get brought up to speed early on when someone explains how Banner figured – mistakenly – that gamma radiation was the key to duplicating how the serum worked back when.
If we grant that Erskine for some reason never actually wrote down the formula (but it got correctly deduced, decades later, from his notes), then I guess it’s equally easy to grant that Stark – for the same reason – never wrote down what he meant by “vita rays” (and Banner incorrectly deduced “gamma rays” from Stark’s notes).